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    Aug 24, 2004 12:07:17 PM

    FutchM
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    AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    Just read that in this week's Autocar mag.
    I find it hard to believe, that would make it faster than a 996 GT3!
    But Autocar usually doens't BS. Interesting.
    BTW, this issue has also got four pages on the F430, very nice. And yes Carlos, E-Diff (similar to the EVO8, YAW control etc.) and Impluse F1 gearbox.

    Aug 24, 2004 12:36:45 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    If the AMV8 is able to do 10 seconds more than taht, it's alreday an amazing time

    J.Seven

    Aug 24, 2004 1:17:43 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    I agree, I wonder where they got that time from.

    Aug 24, 2004 2:19:54 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    With 370HP in order to make a 7:51 it would have to be much lighter than the GT3 and with sportier more track oriented suspensions, chasis, differential, etc setup than a GT3
    I doubt it will be either lighter nor better handling than a -20mm 997S (7:59) nor it will out handle the Murc and Gallardo by so much that it will compensate their 570HP and 500HP respectively since they both do 7:52 in the ring... so I doubt it would go sub 8min at the ring, not even with R-compunds by far.

    Considering it will be a bit lighter than its bigger brothers thought it shares the same chasis with, around 370HP, and a sportier setup than the DB9/Vanquish though within Aston Martin's philosophy, I'd say around 8:15 tops with street tires will be more like it. Which would still be great since it not a track day car and its strongpoints are elsewere, sporty yet confortable, luxurious ambient inside, image of elegance and class, one of the most beautiful designs in the market, exclusive, etc.

    Aug 24, 2004 3:05:31 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    I'm also skeptical re: this ring time. Wasn't new M5 also initially rumored to do ring in <8 mins before BMW backed away from that number?

    Aug 24, 2004 4:42:25 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    If true, it is impressive .

    So many awesome cars so little money .

    fanch,
    bring some of your European magazines if you don't mind making your suitcase heavy .

    Aug 24, 2004 5:56:50 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    Can't wait for some real data/specs. It's easy to buy a 997 or even 998 sight unseen because you have some sort of expectations, but this car is another story.

    Aug 24, 2004 6:12:15 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

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    Can't wait for some real data/specs. It's easy to buy a 997 or even 998 sight unseen because you have some sort of expectations, but this car is another story.



    Good point. Given lukewarm/negative driving impressions of DB9 in recent Evo review (and isn't the Brit press accused of often favoring Brit cars?), AM seems to be all about "looks cool; just don't drive it" to-date....

    Aug 24, 2004 6:21:38 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

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    Good point. Given lukewarm/negative driving impressions of DB9 in recent Evo review (and isn't the Brit press accused of often favoring Brit cars?), AM seems to be all about "looks cool; just don't drive it" to-date....



    Perhaps you are right, but hopefully the AMV8 changes that. Evo absolutely loved the Vanquish with the new sport package, and that was in the same article as well. So perhaps $250k still buys you something.

    Aug 29, 2004 4:30:42 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    The Corvette C6 also matche GT3 (99) times acording an article on Autocar. Hard to believe but let's see what Horst von Sauma is able to do when testing them.

    Aug 30, 2004 12:10:53 AM

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    Hhmmmm, even the General sez the C-6 vette is slower than the C-5 Z06 which lapped the ring at 7:56 !!!

    Somethings beginning to smell!

    Sep 24, 2004 8:11:14 AM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    Beware with those incredible laps times. An AMV8 sure can go under 8" if equipped with slick tyres. Note that slick tyres improves times by 6 to 8 seconds on an standard 4,5kms track, so lets wait to see what Von Sauma is able to do.

    Also note that comparising are best when cars are tested under the same conditions.

    Sep 24, 2004 8:36:53 AM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    It's still up in the air as to how sporty AM is willing to go for the base model. They don't have the advantage of dynamic suspensions in their search for a compromise for both road and track.

    I'm sure they can accomplish a very good Ring time, but would they package a base car coming to the U.S. this way? Unfortunately, I don't think so. Being very realistic about this car...

    Sep 24, 2004 12:01:33 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

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    carlos fromspain said:
    With 370HP in order to make a 7:51 it would have to be much lighter than the GT3 and with sportier more track oriented suspensions, chasis, differential, etc setup than a GT3
    I doubt it will be either lighter nor better handling than a -20mm 997S (7:59) nor it will out handle the Murc and Gallardo by so much that it will compensate their 570HP and 500HP respectively since they both do 7:52 in the ring... so I doubt it would go sub 8min at the ring, not even with R-compunds by far.

    Considering it will be a bit lighter than its bigger brothers thought it shares the same chasis with, around 370HP, and a sportier setup than the DB9/Vanquish though within Aston Martin's philosophy, I'd say around 8:15 tops with street tires will be more like it. Which would still be great since it not a track day car and its strongpoints are elsewere, sporty yet confortable, luxurious ambient inside, image of elegance and class, one of the most beautiful designs in the market, exclusive, etc.


    i agree carlos ,now way under 8.15 ,btw what time will a vanquish do?

    Sep 24, 2004 12:36:42 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    Quote:
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    btw what time will a vanquish do?



    I don't know about the Vanquish but the 420HP DB7 Vantage's best recorded was 8:41, however I have no info on who the driver was.

    Sep 24, 2004 12:59:10 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    Quote:
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    Quote:
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    btw what time will a vanquish do?



    I don't know about the Vanquish but the 420HP DB7 Vantage's best recorded was 8:41, however I have no info on who the driver was.



    Guys, just ask uncle Ferdie!

    SportAuto supertest resulted in 8:17 min but I do remember that the brakes were extemely weak on the Vanquish. One more aspect I remember about the car is that the gearratios were much to tall to result in remarkable times:
    0-62 mph 5.4 sec.
    0-124 mph 15.6 sec.
    On the other hand, topspeed was remarkable with about 200 mph!

    Greetings!

    Sep 24, 2004 4:29:36 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    ....don't forget the "007" rocket assist.

    Sep 25, 2004 3:33:16 AM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    The time is false. And Autocar is a joke of a mag, disregard their "results" as they usually just license test data from Sport Auto and reprint it. Autocar is a small time rag.

    Sep 25, 2004 10:20:12 PM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    Quote:
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    The time is false. And Autocar is a joke of a mag, disregard their "results" as they usually just license test data from Sport Auto and reprint it. Autocar is a small time rag.



    I have no reason to carry a banner for Autocar, but cannot help wondering if you are talking about the same Autocar magazine as the other guys were?

    I do know that Autocar (UK) has ties with Auto, Motor und Sport (Germany), and have seen one article that appeared to have been a "combined effort", but otherwise have not detected much commonality, despite reading both those mags, and Sport Auto, on a regular basis.

    Sep 26, 2004 4:32:11 AM

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    Re: AMV8 laps Ring in 7m51!

    Maybe confusion with Autoexpress, which tends to publish some interesting things.
     
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