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Jul 31, 2008 4:11:36 AM
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Re: MB SLC Gullwing PIX
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Moogle said:
Looks like a damn viper/s2000~
Earlier in its chassis and engine development stage, it was running around in slightly modified Viper "clothes."
I was suspect the platform is similar and some parts were pulled out of the Viper bin before Merc sold it off.
Re: MB SLC Gullwing PIX
...that`s what I call "selling off your history". I saw it already in todays article in german ams.
Unbelievable that MB is really doing that. The 50s 300SL (gullwing & roadster) was a technical milestone, a real sportscar, unique in its style and now a well deserved alltime classic.
The new one will share technic and motor with other cars, set up for volume sales. Any sports spirit will be broken by weight and an automatic-gear as used in taxis (as seen in SL, SLR or CLK Black series).
Unbelievable that MB is really doing that. The 50s 300SL (gullwing & roadster) was a technical milestone, a real sportscar, unique in its style and now a well deserved alltime classic.
The new one will share technic and motor with other cars, set up for volume sales. Any sports spirit will be broken by weight and an automatic-gear as used in taxis (as seen in SL, SLR or CLK Black series).
Re: MB SLC Gullwing PIX
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The new one will share technic and motor with other cars, set up for volume sales. Any sports spirit will be broken by weight and an automatic-gear as used in taxis (as seen in SL, SLR or CLK Black series).
No it won't. The engine will be paired up with the MCT transmission from the new SL63 AMG and it's an excellent gearbox.
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kashmir said:
The new one will share technic and motor with other cars, set up for volume sales. Any sports spirit will be broken by weight and an automatic-gear as used in taxis (as seen in SL, SLR or CLK Black series).
No it won't. The engine will be paired up with the MCT transmission from the new SL63 AMG and it's an excellent gearbox.
The machine is the one used in CLK63, E63, S63, SL63...just pimped up. So not really exclusive. It said to be a double clutch tranny...lets see. Most MBs are good in straight forward accelartion, but not in really track dynamic.
Re: MB SLC Gullwing PIX
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kashmir said:
The new one will share technic and motor with other cars, set up for volume sales. Any sports spirit will be broken by weight and an automatic-gear as used in taxis (as seen in SL, SLR or CLK Black series).
No it won't. The engine will be paired up with the MCT transmission from the new SL63 AMG and it's an excellent gearbox.
The machine is the one used in CLK63, E63, S63, SL63...just pimped up. So not really exclusive.
Not exactly so. The 6.2L V8 will be retired after the SLC, it will be the last model to have that engine. The 6.2L will be replaced by 4.0L & 5.0L turbo/twin turbo in Merc's future lineups.
Merc is going all turbo just like BMW & audi.
Re: MB SLC Gullwing PIX
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kashmir said:
The new one will share technic and motor with other cars, set up for volume sales. Any sports spirit will be broken by weight and an automatic-gear as used in taxis (as seen in SL, SLR or CLK Black series).
No it won't. The engine will be paired up with the MCT transmission from the new SL63 AMG and it's an excellent gearbox.
Most MBs are good in straight forward accelartion, but not in really track dynamic.
The SLC won't be much different. Although it will have the performance to outshine the SLR it will be the type of car you buy primarily for it's striking looks rather than performance. It's a niche Mercedes are covering, sports car which are fully usable on an everyday basis.
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Unbelievable that MB is really doing that. The 50s 300SL (gullwing & roadster) was a technical milestone, a real sportscar, unique in its style and now a well deserved alltime classic.
Maybe the will make it electric!:D
That would ensure its place in MB history books.
Re: MB SLC Gullwing PIX
I actually saw an authentic and well-used Gullwing at a gas station here recently, a German car on a business trip (!) to Czech. We had a little chat with the owner and the waved it off. It had cream color, was in 90% condition overall and just shined. Everybody was taking pictures.
Jul 31, 2008 2:48:12 PM
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Re: MB SLC Gullwing PIX
Despite all the camouflage that is the car I saw. It is the coupe version because the roadster does not have gull wing doors.
As I reported earlier, it has a very long hood and short backside. Almost has a footprint of a gym shoe. The styling changes they made after my first view a year ago have made the car much more attractive when I viewed it a month ago.
The price of the car will be well under $200,000 and will be limited production. A pretty good deal considering you get 565hp, seven speed F1 type transmission, high performance exhaust and suspension.
As I reported earlier, it has a very long hood and short backside. Almost has a footprint of a gym shoe. The styling changes they made after my first view a year ago have made the car much more attractive when I viewed it a month ago.
The price of the car will be well under $200,000 and will be limited production. A pretty good deal considering you get 565hp, seven speed F1 type transmission, high performance exhaust and suspension.
Jul 31, 2008 3:51:39 PM
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Jul 31, 2008 4:30:59 PM
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Re: MB SLC Gullwing PIX
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Looks like a damn viper/s2000~
Here are pic's of that car from a few months ago. You think it looks like a Viper now... they've come a long way:
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=415971&an=0&page=26#415971
Jul 31, 2008 4:32:52 PM
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Re: MB SLC Gullwing PIX
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No.
Can you elaborate more ont he specs, the gearbox and the engine.
Thanks.
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The price of the car will be well under $200,000 and will be limited production. A pretty good deal considering you get 565hp, seven speed F1 type transmission, high performance exhaust and suspension.
Can you elaborate more ont he specs, the gearbox and the engine.
Thanks.
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SlvSurfer said:
Aren't the door mirrors too big or is it just me?
Nothing on the exterior is finalized. It's a bunch of camo designed to throw off the true body lines to snoops.
The car has been finalized. They are only decided the name. MB wants to distinguish this car by making it a performance SPORT car and not a GT car like the rest of their cars.
BTW the picture displayed by Joerockhead is NOT accurate. THough there are similarities to the front grill, the rest of the car is not even close.
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Not exactly so. The 6.2L V8 will be retired after the SLC, it will be the last model to have that engine. The 6.2L will be replaced by 4.0L & 5.0L turbo/twin turbo in Merc's future lineups.
Merc is going all turbo just like BMW & audi.
The 6.2 engine is not going anywhere soon. It's still a brand new engine developed by AMG to be used in the long term. It's a robust engine that can support various configurations.
The MCT is NOT a dual clutch setup or anything close to that. It's still a REGULAR automatic gearbox, only difference is that Mercedes replaced the torque converter with a multiplate clutch. So instead of having a torque converter soaking up power, it will have a manual like direct feel because of the clutch setup, but with a quicker gear change speed.
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Not exactly so. The 6.2L V8 will be retired after the SLC, it will be the last model to have that engine. The 6.2L will be replaced by 4.0L & 5.0L turbo/twin turbo in Merc's future lineups.
Merc is going all turbo just like BMW & audi.
The 6.2 engine is not going anywhere soon. It's still a brand new engine developed by AMG to be used in the long term. It's a robust engine that can support various configurations.
The MCT is NOT a dual clutch setup or anything close to that. It's still a REGULAR automatic gearbox, only difference is that Mercedes replaced the torque converter with a multiplate clutch. So instead of having a torque converter soaking up power, it will have a manual like direct feel because of the clutch setup, but with a quicker gear change speed.
Guess again, from the horse's mouth :
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/AMGs-secret-war-chest/
" A mere 12 months after the launch of the acclaimed high-revving big-bore V8, AMG is tweaking its engine philosophy again. Why? Because the 6.2-litre unit lacks power and torque compared to the now defunct 5.5-litre Kompressor motor.
AMG engines lack power and torque, you say? Are you mad?!
Yes, we'd rarely call any AMG product under-nourished, but these guys at Affalterbach have a different take on brutality. They point out that the latest 6.2 has horrendous full-throttle consumption and emission figures. And it's telling that Audi and BMW are also about to abandon their normally aspirated bent eights. "
and P.S. I never said anything about MCT being dual clutch, I know it is not. I do not know why you brought it up on me.
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