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Jun 23, 2008 3:50:34 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: W211

Re: To rear wiper or not to rear-wiper that is the

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W211 said:
Wish it can spray though.

Holy Cow! No washer fluid ejection ability?

That suuuuucks. Changes EVERYTHING.

Without washer fluid the thing becomes 50 percent USELESS. Think of dried-on road grime from comuting thru the recent rain/snow/slush.

Thanks W211..., scheesch..., why didn't somebody say that sooner?

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Jun 23, 2008 3:55:30 PM

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , United States; Posts: 6924, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2006; Reply to: MMD

Re: To rear wiper or not to rear-wiper that is the

I always thought it looked really cool on the older, air cooled 911s. Makes it look like a real road car capable of long distances. Off course that was then - 22 gallons of gas, spare tires, 12 quarts of oil and no WATER. Now its an 'around town' car without such long distance aspirations (although some of us still use it for this.)
I would prefer the rear wiper but the mention of windnoise on this thread does make me pause.
Cheers

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Jun 23, 2008 7:00:04 PM

gw2009: Newbie; Loc: New York, USA; Posts: 24, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 25, 2008; Reply to: Leawood911

Re: To rear wiper or not to rear-wiper that is the

From experience living in Switzerland for several years, I found it useful in traffic, or lower speed conditions (heavy rain/sleet/snow/fog) on autobahns. Didn't mind the association back to 70's cars either (which consequently did not then intrude on my view of the rear-end symmetry) and personally didn't really notice the extra wind-noise.
Otherwise - can only concur with normal driving, aerodynamics are such that screen will typically remain dry and clear at decent speeds...

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Jun 24, 2008 7:01:32 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: MMD

Re: To rear wiper or not to rear-wiper that is the

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MMD said:
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W211 said:
Wish it can spray though.

Holy Cow! No washer fluid ejection ability?

That suuuuucks. Changes EVERYTHING.

Without washer fluid the thing becomes 50 percent USELESS. Think of dried-on road grime from comuting thru the recent rain/snow/slush.

Thanks W211..., scheesch..., why didn't somebody say that sooner?

Gee, sorry MMD.

We just kind of assumed that other people also only expressed strongly-held opinions if they knew something about the subject.

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Jun 24, 2008 7:31:23 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: fritz

Re: To rear wiper or not to rear-wiper that is the

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fritz said:

We just kind of assumed that other people also only expressed strongly-held opinions if they knew something about the subject.

Funny! Nice work.

What's really strange is there's some engineer with reasoning that decided against water reservoir.

"Za vasher vill be yoozed honly fur ven eet snozz or raynz; not ven eetz dhry!"

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Jun 24, 2008 8:04:22 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: MMD

Re: To rear wiper or not to rear-wiper that is the

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MMD said:
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fritz said:

We just kind of assumed that other people also only expressed strongly-held opinions if they knew something about the subject.

Funny! Nice work.

What's really strange is there's some engineer with reasoning that decided against water reservoir.

"Za vasher vill be yoozed honly fur ven eet snozz or raynz; not ven eetz dhry!"

I'm guessing that the reasoning was more likely to be that:

"- The wiper will only ever be used by drivers who forget that they have door mirrors and are anal about seeing out through a rain-soaked rear windshield when pulling away from a standstill. For that, they won't need a washer jet.
- If the rear window is covered in snow they shouldn't use the rear wiper anyway, 'cos it'll overload the wiper motor and cause it to seize up. That's what they have heated exterior mirrors for.
- Once the car's moving at any speed, the wind will do the trick, even clearing away snow after the rear window heater has melted it."

I can live with that reasoning, since it's worked for me for many years.

Sorry, I didn't even try to do the accent as I am not nearly as good at it as you obviously are.

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Jun 24, 2008 8:30:50 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: fritz

Re: To rear wiper or not to rear-wiper that is the

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Sorry, I didn't even try to do the accent as I am not nearly as good at it as you obviously are.

Accents?! Nothing is better than doing the "Sopranos" for fun after a few beers.

Anyway..., Good work. Hehe. Too bad we aren't getting paid to be funny. Or..., probably a good thing.

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Jun 24, 2008 8:37:45 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: MMD

Re: To rear wiper or not to rear-wiper that is the

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MMD said:
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Sorry, I didn't even try to do the accent as I am not nearly as good at it as you obviously are.

Accents?! Nothing is better than doing the "Sopranos" for fun after a few beers.

Anyway..., Good work. Hehe. Too bad we aren't getting paid to be funny. Or..., probably a good thing.

It's a good thing.

We'd starve.

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Jul 5, 2008 12:46:33 AM

Minok: Co-Pilot; Loc: Pacific Northwest; Posts: 263, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 29, 2008; Reply to: fritz

Re: To rear wiper or not to rear-wiper that is the

I have a rear wiper on my VW Golf and its a great thing... for THAT type of car... very vertical back window with not much car behind it .. .so spray comes up and blocks the window easily at speed. For a 911, the more traditional slant window in back with a much farther back bumper, its not an likely to need one at speed.

I could see needing one on a 911 in two cases.

1) Backing out of a parking space in a real downpour.
2) When backing up in a snowfall thats heavy, so after you cleared it by hand, as you back down a road, its building up again to block visibility.

Where I live (Pacific Northwest), it snows, but not enough to need it. We also don't get the really heavy downpours that much either.

I like the option of removing it and capping the thing. It would be nice if Porsche gave us a factory cap to put on it, and the wiper arm and tool to attach it were stowed neatly in an area in the engine bay or in the front trunk.

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Jul 30, 2008 2:27:21 PM

993Targa: Rennteam Pro; Loc: ZH , Switzerland; Posts: 2522, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 16, 2004; Reply to: Minok

Re: To rear wiper or not to rear-wiper that is the

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Minok said:

I could see needing one on a 911 in two cases.

1) Backing out of a parking space in a real downpour.
2) When backing up in a snowfall thats heavy, so after you cleared it by hand, as you back down a road, its building up again to block visibility.

Had experience 1 last week. Got caught in a thunderstorm downpour and even hail!

To escape the hail I exited the road and took a narrow dirtroad in the forrest to get protection from the hail under the trees. When the hail stopped it was still raining like crazy. Had to back out (too narrow to turn) and the wiper came in handy! My girlfriend kept pressing the wiper switch and I could back out on the main road again!

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Jul 30, 2008 8:56:57 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: 993Targa

Re: To rear wiper or not to rear-wiper that is the

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993Targa said:

Had experience 1 last week. Got caught in a thunderstorm downpour and even hail! To escape the hail I exited the road and took a narrow dirtroad in the forrest to get protection from the hail under the trees. When the hail stopped it was still raining like crazy. Had to back out (too narrow to turn) and the wiper came in handy! My girlfriend kept pressing the wiper switch and I could back out on the main road again!

Are you sure that was the reason you drove down the dirtroad into the forest?...and was the wiper switch the only thing your girlfriend kept pressing??

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Jul 30, 2008 8:57:55 PM

mnmatt: Junior; Loc: MN, USA , United States; Posts: 65, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 12, 2008; Reply to: John H

Re: To rear wiper or not to rear-wiper that is the

That's what I was thinking - I would not want the wiper, so she had to sit with me in the forest and get down!

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