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Jun 3, 2008 6:28:53 AM

Carn: Newbie; Loc: RSA , South Africa; Posts: 18, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 5, 2007; Reply to: Jeff (in SF)

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

Some interesting bits in this article.......Click me

Most notably "Nissan did initially claim the prototype used was a completely unmodified GT-R, but later information surfaced that it did feature a number of small tweaks we are yet top see in the Japanese spec model, but we are assured these tweaks will be incorporated into the Euro-Spec version."

Sounds dodgey to me...Nissan usually reserves the 'tweaked' models for the Japanese market only not the overseas imports, why the sudden about turn in offering a tweaked model for the europeans ?

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Jun 3, 2008 7:26:45 AM

AUM: Veteran; Loc: Germany; Posts: 1203, Gallery; Registered on: May 2, 2006; Reply to: Jeff (in SF)

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22900&st=60

Here is a link to videos of the 7.29 GTR and the 7.27 Zonda laps playing at the same time. Scroll down to the middle of the page.

The GTR carries more speed through corners and the Zonda is faster on the straights.

Nissan really has moved the game forward by a significant margin.

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Jun 3, 2008 7:33:49 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: AUM

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

AUM,

Buy yourself and GT-R in mid 2009 when it enters German market(official EU specs car).

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Jun 3, 2008 7:53:30 AM

AUM: Veteran; Loc: Germany; Posts: 1203, Gallery; Registered on: May 2, 2006; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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KresoF1 said:
AUM,

Buy yourself and GT-R in mid 2009 when it enters German market(official EU specs car).

The GTR is too heavy for me. I am waiting for the CSL. But the GTR does set a new performance benchmark and should be applauded for its remarkable achievement.

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Jun 3, 2008 8:53:25 AM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: AUM

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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AUM said:
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KresoF1 said:
AUM,

Buy yourself and GT-R in mid 2009 when it enters German market(official EU specs car).

The GTR is too heavy for me. I am waiting for the CSL. But the GTR does set a new performance benchmark and should be applauded for its remarkable achievement.

I don't agree. Without reliable test figures the GTR deserves no praise yet. I am convinced that the Video and the Nissan claims are fake: For instance, Nissan has confirmed that the car in the video is not a production car but had been "tweaked" for the test run. Videos are no prove. For example, can you verify the power figure of the car in the video? Can you verify the tires used? Did they test immediately after a 24h race, i.e. under ideal and untypical track conditions? What was the outside and track temperature? What was the weight of the car compared to the production cars that will be sold? Did they modify the brakes? Etc. Etc. This video proves nothing.

What we know (as a reliable fact) is that HvS did 7.50 in the GTR and that he expects to do slightly better under Supertest conditions. Now, 7.50 and 7.29 are worlds apart. The only reason to believe in 7.29 or 7.38 is to be gullible and accept Nissan marketing claims without further reflection.

I don't expect the GTR to achieve a below 7.45 time in the SportAuto test. That is - with all due respect - not a quantum leap for a car launched in mid-2009

The car is cheaper than its competitors. But that's it

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Jun 3, 2008 9:14:42 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: AUM

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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AUM said:
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22900&st=60

Here is a link to videos of the 7.29 GTR and the 7.27 Zonda laps playing at the same time. Scroll down to the middle of the page.

The GTR carries more speed through corners and the Zonda is faster on the straights.

Nissan really has moved the game forward by a significant margin.

GT-R sure doesn't seems to weight that much when it defy physics and setting those times with so little power/weight ratio.

A Zonda has 600hp, 120hp more than what the GT-R listed at, it also weights more than 1000lbs, that's half a TON, LESS than the GT-R, so either the Zonda has 2 sumo wrestlers as ballast plus it's running with 4 of it's 12 cylinders shut off or the GT-R has MORE than 480hp, OR it weights 1500lb LESS than the 3900lb it's listed at. Simple physics already tells you there is no way the 'stock' GT-R can keep up with a Zonda.

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Jun 3, 2008 10:10:58 AM

Carn: Newbie; Loc: RSA , South Africa; Posts: 18, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 5, 2007; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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Whoopsy said:
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AUM said:
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22900&st=60

Here is a link to videos of the 7.29 GTR and the 7.27 Zonda laps playing at the same time. Scroll down to the middle of the page.

The GTR carries more speed through corners and the Zonda is faster on the straights.

Nissan really has moved the game forward by a significant margin.

GT-R sure doesn't seems to weight that much when it defy physics and setting those times with so little power/weight ratio.

A Zonda has 600hp, 120hp more than what the GT-R listed at, it also weights more than 1000lbs, that's half a TON, LESS than the GT-R, so either the Zonda has 2 sumo wrestlers as ballast plus it's running with 4 of it's 12 cylinders shut off or the GT-R has MORE than 480hp, OR it weights 1500lb LESS than the 3900lb it's listed at. Simple physics already tells you there is no way the 'stock' GT-R can keep up with a Zonda.

Ah....but you are forgetting the Zonda doesn't come equipped with the trick 'Gran Tourismo' physics engine onboard computer

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Jun 3, 2008 12:11:46 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21152, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: nberry

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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nberry said:
Carlos, it is as I always believed. You cannot trust any of these sources. However, it does make for good reading and chat site discussions.

Is it because of the F430's lap time? If you don't like the message don't kill the messenger, HvS supertest ring times are the best insight into a car's real world performance available, they are not perfect but they are the closest to it compared to any other piece of data. And not that superficial irrelevant 0-60 figures, slalom and skid-pad tests or even super smooth and artificial non-realworld track tests...

And it works both ways, if the GT-R is a great performing vehicle, HvS will be able to prove it, but until then nobody knows anything except BS hype from the marketing department.

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Jun 3, 2008 12:48:12 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: Carn

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

Doh!, forgot that thing accounts for 20 sec at the ring, and it partially turn off physics in real life.

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Whoopsy said:
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AUM said:
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22900&st=60

Here is a link to videos of the 7.29 GTR and the 7.27 Zonda laps playing at the same time. Scroll down to the middle of the page.

The GTR carries more speed through corners and the Zonda is faster on the straights.

Nissan really has moved the game forward by a significant margin.

GT-R sure doesn't seems to weight that much when it defy physics and setting those times with so little power/weight ratio.

A Zonda has 600hp, 120hp more than what the GT-R listed at, it also weights more than 1000lbs, that's half a TON, LESS than the GT-R, so either the Zonda has 2 sumo wrestlers as ballast plus it's running with 4 of it's 12 cylinders shut off or the GT-R has MORE than 480hp, OR it weights 1500lb LESS than the 3900lb it's listed at. Simple physics already tells you there is no way the 'stock' GT-R can keep up with a Zonda.

Ah....but you are forgetting the Zonda doesn't come equipped with the trick 'Gran Tourismo' physics engine onboard computer

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Jun 3, 2008 12:59:28 PM

AUM: Veteran; Loc: Germany; Posts: 1203, Gallery; Registered on: May 2, 2006; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

All of the independent magazine tests have praised the GTR for its class-beating performance, especially on the track where its lap times are always faster than the 997 Turbo et al. These independent lap times are not inconsistent with a very fast NBR time.

The 7.29 lap was witnessed by Sport Auto and other journalists and the car was confirmed to be a standard Japanese production model with Dunlop runflats. The tweaks were to the suspension and will be incorporated in all production cars from now on.

In light of the above it seems unreasonable to accuse Nissan of fraud without any evidence.

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Jun 3, 2008 1:09:22 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21152, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: AUM

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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AUM said:was confirmed to be a standard Japanese production model

AUM nobody confirmed that, its Nissan that claim that it was so. Now it turns out that it "not excatly" customer-spec, there were "some tweaks"... nows thats an understatement to achive the laptime of a 140HP more and 1000lbs less carbon fiber mid-engined Porsche supercar!...

The car was not summited to independant testing for dino, setups, etc. HvS made 7:50 with a pre-production model in the damp, once he gets a real euro-spec customer car, tests it for any "steroids" and has adecuate conditions track we will see.

Until then, Nissan is on the record for lying before about this, their claim of 7:29 does not sound reasonable to anyone given the specs of the car, and the final car isn't even available here to test.

If perfectly logical to distrust Nissan's smoke. The bad thing is, the cars will probaly be sold before we are able to know the truth (good or bad). I wonder why so many people seem to be afraid for HvS Supertest of a real Euro-GTR and are so willing to believe what Nissan is publicising

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Jun 3, 2008 3:38:22 PM

thuggy: Veteran; Loc: PA & CA , United States; Posts: 834, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 22, 2006; Reply to: Carn

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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Carn said:
Some interesting bits in this article.......Click me

Most notably "Nissan did initially claim the prototype used was a completely unmodified GT-R, but later information surfaced that it did feature a number of small tweaks we are yet top see in the Japanese spec model, but we are assured these tweaks will be incorporated into the Euro-Spec version."

Sounds dodgey to me...Nissan usually reserves the 'tweaked' models for the Japanese market only not the overseas imports, why the sudden about turn in offering a tweaked model for the europeans ?

A "tweaked" Porsche Turbo was tested by Sport Auto at 7:39... tweaked by Techart

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Jun 3, 2008 3:43:59 PM

thuggy: Veteran; Loc: PA & CA , United States; Posts: 834, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 22, 2006; Reply to: AUM

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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AUM said:
In light of the above it seems unreasonable to accuse Nissan of fraud without any evidence.

Carn actually posted a link earlier to an article where the GT R was apparently tweaked and not stock.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080602.003/now-on-video-nissan-gt-r-729-ring-run

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Jun 3, 2008 3:44:30 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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MKSGR said:
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AUM said:
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KresoF1 said:
AUM,

Buy yourself and GT-R in mid 2009 when it enters German market(official EU specs car).

The GTR is too heavy for me. I am waiting for the CSL. But the GTR does set a new performance benchmark and should be applauded for its remarkable achievement.

I don't agree. Without reliable test figures the GTR deserves no praise yet. I am convinced that the Video and the Nissan claims are fake: For instance, Nissan has confirmed that the car in the video is not a production car but had been "tweaked" for the test run. Videos are no prove. For example, can you verify the power figure of the car in the video? Can you verify the tires used? Did they test immediately after a 24h race, i.e. under ideal and untypical track conditions? What was the outside and track temperature? What was the weight of the car compared to the production cars that will be sold? Did they modify the brakes? Etc. Etc. This video proves nothing.

What we know (as a reliable fact) is that HvS did 7.50 in the GTR and that he expects to do slightly better under Supertest conditions. Now, 7.50 and 7.29 are worlds apart. The only reason to believe in 7.29 or 7.38 is to be gullible and accept Nissan marketing claims without further reflection.

I don't expect the GTR to achieve a below 7.45 time in the SportAuto test. That is - with all due respect - not a quantum leap for a car launched in mid-2009 The car is cheaper than its competitors. But that's it

HvS did 7:50 in a completely unfamiliar car in damp condition in parts of the track, and prior to Nissan tweaking the car to be 9 secs faster...I dare bet you that he will achieve better than 7:45. And even if it is 7:45, that is amzing for the money!!!

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Jun 3, 2008 3:48:20 PM

Jean: Veteran; Loc: Seoul , South Korea; Posts: 1033, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 14, 2002; Reply to: AUM

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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AUM said:
In light of the above it seems unreasonable to accuse Nissan of fraud without any evidence.

I agree. The 7:29 video would quickly become the ridicule of the industry, if the car is in fact not 'customer spec', and Nissan would have wasted a lot of effort for the wrong kind of hype.

Nobody is afraid of HvS testing GT-R, except for Porsche if it turns out to be true. In fact, I wish the HvS test result come out ASAP, so that we can give this issue a rest.

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Jun 3, 2008 3:51:07 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: Jean

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

Sport Auto will test GT-R in April or May 2009. Why? First press cars of Nissan Germany will be available in early March 2009... In best case scenario we are at least 10 months from Sport Auto GT-R Supertest...

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Jun 3, 2008 3:53:10 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

If I was Nissan and 7:29 is true time, I would be getting HvS a car now to settle all these internet rumours!!!

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Jun 3, 2008 3:58:56 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: WAY

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If I was Nissan and 7:29 is true time, I would be getting HvS a car now to settle all these internet rumours!!!

And what is the point of HvS to drive RHD JDM GT-R? Maybe even Suzuki test crew could be on hand as well?

AFAIK Sport Auto will test EU(German) specs GT-R Premium edition with Dunlops.
There is NO point at all for Sport Auto to test JDM doctored car...

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Jun 3, 2008 4:07:22 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

Just want to get something clear - Just because it isn't Euro spec doesn't mean it is doctored. As I said, as long as it is sold in a market somewhere in the world, then the times are true!

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Jun 3, 2008 4:20:22 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: WAY

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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If I was Nissan and 7:29 is true time, I would be getting HvS a car now to settle all these internet rumours!!!

Why in the hell should Nissan bother with HvS? It is clear this car is beyond him. It is a technological wonder and Horst is accustomed to driving in old Porsche technology.

Honestly, do you believe what HvS has to say about the car matters? He is just one opinion.

What bothers me is if by some miracle Horst does accomplish a Ring time below 7.40, we all know Porschephiles will either say that Nissan gave him a heavily modified car or the driver was actually Susuki posing as HvS. Nothing will satisfy them.

Carlos, as I have often stated, the Ring times to me are irrelevent. I could care less. I buy a car for many other reasons and Ring time does not enter my decision making.

Jeff, a clarification. I did not believe your last post was personal or offensive. All I was doing was reminding you that there is nothing at stake in these discussion but good fun.

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Jun 3, 2008 4:36:33 PM

thuggy: Veteran; Loc: PA & CA , United States; Posts: 834, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 22, 2006; Reply to: nberry

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Why in the hell should Nissan bother with HvS? It is clear this car is beyond him. It is a technological wonder and Horst is accustomed to driving in old Porsche technology.

This makes no logical sense. The GTRs technical wizardry is to make mediocre drivers better, correct for their mistakes. Not to make good drivers worse.

In many cases (maybe not the GTR) the nanny functions actually have tolerances much lower than professional drivers and its why when testing, many of them turn them off.

And HvS drives many cars fast... not just Porsches.

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Jun 3, 2008 5:12:58 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: thuggy

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Why in the hell should Nissan bother with HvS? It is clear this car is beyond him. It is a technological wonder and Horst is accustomed to driving in old Porsche technology.

This makes no logical sense. The GTRs technical wizardry is to make mediocre drivers better, correct for their mistakes. Not to make good drivers worse. In many cases (maybe not the GTR) the nanny functions actually have tolerances much lower than professional drivers and its why when testing, many of them turn them off.

And HvS drives many cars fast... not just Porsches.

I disagree. Though it is true that the technology of the GT-R will make average drivers better, unless a professional driver is accustomed to the technology, it could and would slow him down. For an example, the use of the paddles is not something HvS is familiar with(by that I mean master of) because he has not regularly driven cars with paddles which are synchronized with the suspension, throttle and braking. Driving on run flats also pose a problem for the those not well versed in driving on them.

HvS drives Porsche's well. What the GT-R has by way of technology is new and completely different than what Porsche has.

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Jun 3, 2008 5:38:16 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21152, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: nberry

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

master of flappy paddles... yes, the mastery of the flipping of the paddle, the hardest technique known to human kind in the art of driving my little grasshopper, says the master (nick) to the apprentice (HvS)... this is just getting downright comical by now

...aaaanyway

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Jun 3, 2008 5:52:08 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

Seriously, your comments only confirm how clueless manual drivers are regarding the use of paddles. It is an art in performance driving.

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Jun 3, 2008 6:03:53 PM

eclou: Veteran; Loc: Texas , United States; Posts: 1182, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 4, 2006; Reply to: nberry

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

With regards to real world testing, the GTR was only 35 seconds slower per lap on my local track (TWS 2.9 mile CCW) than me (2008 One Lap of America). Granted, the GTR drove the course wet, but at that pace I think I could have driven in reverse and come close.

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Jun 3, 2008 6:13:20 PM

thuggy: Veteran; Loc: PA & CA , United States; Posts: 834, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 22, 2006; Reply to: nberry

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nberry said:

Seriously, your comments only confirm how clueless manual drivers are regarding the use of paddles. It is an art in performance driving.

So according to you HvS's 7:33 in a Zonda F & 7:34 in a CCR would have been theoritically slower if they were equipped with some flappy paddle gear boxes that would have counfounded him? So skilled drivers are made worse by flappy paddles... got it.

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Jun 3, 2008 7:17:01 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21152, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: nberry

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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nberry said:
Seriously, your comments only confirm how clueless manual drivers are regarding the use of paddles. It is an art in performance driving.

sure sure and the playstation is just like the real thing!

"flipping" "a" "paddle" up or down vs throttle-off->cluth->helltoe-matchrev->engage gear->decluth->squezze throttle... nick, why do you think paddle shift allows for faster lap times especially in the more novice drivers? because its so easy it takes less concentration away from the driver and allows the driver to focus more cognitive resources to the other aspects of driving like steering and braking.

I love to see al the excuses you make up in your mind in order for things to fit how you would like things to be, HvS can't drive because I know so, paddles are so dificult its above a guy who can lap the CGT in 7:32 and who is tired of driving paddle shifts, the ring is worthless please don't look at lap times, bang-for-the-buck is great except with Ferrari then its the other way around, etc. what next? don't dissapoint me now

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Jun 3, 2008 8:52:06 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: WAY

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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MKSGR said:
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AUM said:
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KresoF1 said:
AUM,

Buy yourself and GT-R in mid 2009 when it enters German market(official EU specs car).

The GTR is too heavy for me. I am waiting for the CSL. But the GTR does set a new performance benchmark and should be applauded for its remarkable achievement.

I don't agree. Without reliable test figures the GTR deserves no praise yet. I am convinced that the Video and the Nissan claims are fake: For instance, Nissan has confirmed that the car in the video is not a production car but had been "tweaked" for the test run. Videos are no prove. For example, can you verify the power figure of the car in the video? Can you verify the tires used? Did they test immediately after a 24h race, i.e. under ideal and untypical track conditions? What was the outside and track temperature? What was the weight of the car compared to the production cars that will be sold? Did they modify the brakes? Etc. Etc. This video proves nothing.

What we know (as a reliable fact) is that HvS did 7.50 in the GTR and that he expects to do slightly better under Supertest conditions. Now, 7.50 and 7.29 are worlds apart. The only reason to believe in 7.29 or 7.38 is to be gullible and accept Nissan marketing claims without further reflection.

I don't expect the GTR to achieve a below 7.45 time in the SportAuto test. That is - with all due respect - not a quantum leap for a car launched in mid-2009 The car is cheaper than its competitors. But that's it

HvS did 7:50 in a completely unfamiliar car in damp condition in parts of the track, and prior to Nissan tweaking the car to be 9 secs faster...I dare bet you that he will achieve better than 7:45. And even if it is 7:45, that is amzing for the money!!!

For the money 7.45 would be a good result. However, the car is not available for another 12 months and still has to do 7.45 before we should praise it

I don't believe in Nissan BS.

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Jun 3, 2008 8:53:46 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: WAY

Re: Video of GT-R's 7:29 lap of 'Ring

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WAY said:
If I was Nissan and 7:29 is true time, I would be getting HvS a car now to settle all these internet rumours!!!

That is true. And the fact that they don't do it proves that all these 7.29 and 7.38 figures are fakes and have been invented to attract gullible buyers

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Jun 3, 2008 10:54:55 PM

Ferdie: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Europe , Germany; Posts: 8234, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2004; Reply to: nberry

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nberry said:
Seriously, your comments only confirm how clueless manual drivers are regarding the use of paddles. It is an art in performance driving.

Geez, that's about the biggest b...sh*t you have ever come up with. It shows that you have zero knowledge, not even wisdom on that subject yet intend to contribute with more or less ostensible arguments.

If laptimes are unimportant for you, why do you bother to frequent these topics?

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