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Unless of course the video was altered in some way... 
(Joke, kidding and it wasn't an invite for the conspiracy theorists)
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ResB said:
Some of the lines he took were "outrageous" but the car was so composed! Adenau Forst for instance. He didn't take the wide line before hitting the second apex, he just followed the inside kerb and looked to be flying at the same time.
Impressive.
Well, that's official then.
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ResB said:
Some of the lines he took were "outrageous" but the car was so composed! Adenau Forst for instance. He didn't take the wide line before hitting the second apex, he just followed the inside kerb and looked to be flying at the same time.
Impressive.
Well, that's official then.
The key question is whether the car in the Nissan press video has something in common with those GTRs that will be sold to customers
. I just don't buy that time. Be it Porsche, Ferrari or anyone else, 7:29 is too fast for such a heavy pig. Unless, of course, the track has been resurfaced 
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schao said:
Have returned from vacation and have uploaded my recording of Nissan's video of the GT-R's 7:29 lap of the 'Ring. Sorry for the glare and sounds of all the activity taking place at Estoril while I was recording this, so it's hard to hear the sounds from the video. Nissan will put the official video out shortly anyway. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLdaLV66XOc
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KresoF1 said:
Yes, on some sectors. BTW, Stippler did 7.53min with normal R8. I saw test data personally(interesting enough its Doettinger Hoehe top speed was almost 270km/h, unlike 254km/h achived by HvS in R8).
Stippler was also as fast in R8 V10 as HvS was in Scud.
Horst in GT-R? Next spring... Not faster then 7.40min...
Jun 1, 2008 4:40:17 PM
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KresoF1 said:
Yes, on some sectors. BTW, Stippler did 7.53min with normal R8. I saw test data personally(interesting enough its Doettinger Hoehe top speed was almost 270km/h, unlike 254km/h achived by HvS in R8).
Stippler was also as fast in R8 V10 as HvS was in Scud.
Horst in GT-R? Next spring... Not faster then 7.40min...
Has it occurred to SportAuto that as good as HvS is there are many drivers better in driving the Ring? Age catches up with us all and HvS is no different. To assume that HvS will produce the best time at the Ring in no longer a valid assumption. His time will not be indicative of what the car is capable of.
Please understand that I am not knocking HvS but stating the ugly truth. Time marches on for all of us.
BTW in the video you can get a good idea as to why paddles are the future.
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KresoF1 said:
Yes, on some sectors. BTW, Stippler did 7.53min with normal R8. I saw test data personally(interesting enough its Doettinger Hoehe top speed was almost 270km/h, unlike 254km/h achived by HvS in R8).
Stippler was also as fast in R8 V10 as HvS was in Scud.
Horst in GT-R? Next spring... Not faster then 7.40min...
Has it occurred to SportAuto that as good as HvS is there are many drivers better in driving the Ring? Age catches up with us all and HvS is no different. To assume that HvS will produce the best time at the Ring in no longer a valid assumption. His time will not be indicative of what the car is capable of.
Please understand that I am not knocking HvS but stating the ugly truth. Time marches on for all of us.
BTW in the video you can get a good idea as to why paddles are the future.
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nberry said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:
Yes, on some sectors. BTW, Stippler did 7.53min with normal R8. I saw test data personally(interesting enough its Doettinger Hoehe top speed was almost 270km/h, unlike 254km/h achived by HvS in R8).
Stippler was also as fast in R8 V10 as HvS was in Scud.
Horst in GT-R? Next spring... Not faster then 7.40min...
Has it occurred to SportAuto that as good as HvS is there are many drivers better in driving the Ring? Age catches up with us all and HvS is no different. To assume that HvS will produce the best time at the Ring in no longer a valid assumption. His time will not be indicative of what the car is capable of.
Please understand that I am not knocking HvS but stating the ugly truth. Time marches on for all of us.
BTW in the video you can get a good idea as to why paddles are the future.
I will not support your agenda against poor old HvS. You are on your own here...
Just let me give you one simple question: GT-R or California? Please, no sleazy talk about how advanced Godzilla is... Or how good is it looking(it looks like POS IMO)...
Just simple answer-what will be your choice?
Me? There are only two cars that I really like(both design and technical wise): Audi R8 and Ferrari California.
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nberry said:
Please understand that I am not knocking HvS but stating the ugly truth. Time marches on for all of us.
Jun 1, 2008 6:13:36 PM
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nberry said:
Has it occurred to SportAuto that as good as HvS is there are many drivers better in driving the Ring? Age catches up with us all and HvS is no different. To assume that HvS will produce the best time at the Ring in no longer a valid assumption. His time will not be indicative of what the car is capable of.
Please understand that I am not knocking HvS but stating the ugly truth. Time marches on for all of us.
Jun 1, 2008 7:20:22 PM
Jun 1, 2008 7:30:58 PM
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Jean said:
Awesome!
The GT-R seems very composed, especially around the highly technical second half of the Nordschleife after the Carrousel.
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AUM said:
Awesome is exactly the right word.
But who would buy one and risk being branded a person of poor taste by European car owners?
My guess is that by this time next year the GTR will be held in much higher regard by almost everyone. That kind of performance (as verified by all the independent tests) is hard to discount for too long.
Jun 1, 2008 7:53:47 PM
Jun 1, 2008 8:16:55 PM
Jun 1, 2008 8:19:53 PM
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KresoF1 said:Quote:
AUM said:
Awesome is exactly the right word.
But who would buy one and risk being branded a person of poor taste by European car owners?
My guess is that by this time next year the GTR will be held in much higher regard by almost everyone. That kind of performance (as verified by all the independent tests) is hard to discount for too long.
IF this amazing Ring time is verified by Sport Auto.
BUT, what if they are NOT verified by Sport Auto? Or AMS, AZ, AB Sportscars edition or Italian magazines like Quattroroute(maybe even driven by Alain Prost)?
What then?
Jun 1, 2008 10:58:09 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:
Its been said over and over that nobody is dennying that "a" Nissan GT-R clocked 7:29 on the ring, what people who have read and compared ring lap times over the years doubt is that that specific GT-R was in full customer-spec form since we all know what specifications a customer-spec GT-R has. But nobody (believers and non-believers) except Nissan know under what conditions was that GT-R that did the 7:29 in.
When HvS tests it we will get a better picture, until then, beliving in factory claims, espècially if they are a little outrageous and forma company that has lied in ring times before) is a little naive IMO.
Jun 1, 2008 11:16:48 PM
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nberry said:
Do you see my point now?
Jun 2, 2008 2:35:31 AM
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