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Jun 11, 2018 4:47:10 AM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: SciFrog

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Whether a car depreciates is irrelevant. I don’t buy mass produced cars. I buy care that hold their value though they experience some depreciation. What’s important is what the dealer is will to buy it back for. That depends on the market at the time I sell it back. For an example I’ll sell my .2 GT3 soon after my RS is built on July 20th. The car will not be delivered until middle of September. The second batch of GT3 allocations should be announced in September or October. My dealer should be able to get a good price on my car and give me a fair valuation for my car. All the profit will good to my dealer.

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Jun 11, 2018 12:43:45 PM

absent: Pilot; Loc: Illinois , United States; Posts: 365, Gallery; Registered on: May 6, 2012; Reply to: nberry

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The funny thing is, the actual production would end up the same or even lower if these cars were made available to anyone who wanted one.

No one would pay a $100k premium if he could get it after a short time, many of the current (most) buyers get them because they see it as a money making opportunity (hence so many cars with delivery mileage only), if there is a negligible chance of that, they would lose interest.

I suspect the actual number of real buyers who want a car like this , use it, track it, enjoy it and put miles on it, is significantly lower then the current production numbers are.

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Jun 11, 2018 12:57:51 PM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3484, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: absent

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hope the factory will screw up every flippers and just give more allocations to dealers. indecision

Mark-up tends to cool down though as mentioned by several resalers that one of my friend is in touch. 2 ''car company'' sold a total of 20 cars combined since the launch angry but not moving much since few weeks.

he wants a car so he is looking around to get the cheapest one possible... what a shame.

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Jun 11, 2018 1:28:13 PM

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Netherlands; Posts: 8054, Gallery; Registered on: May 3, 2004; Reply to: W8MM

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W8MM:
Brian Redman handing out the hardware at today's http://ohioconcours.com

Congratulations Mike! Smiley

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Jun 11, 2018 1:46:09 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: absent

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absent:
The funny thing is, the actual production would end up the same or even lower if these cars were made available to anyone who wanted one.

No one would pay a $100k premium if he could get it after a short time, many of the current (most) buyers get them because they see it as a money making opportunity (hence so many cars with delivery mileage only), if there is a negligible chance of that, they would lose interest.

I suspect the actual number of real buyers who want a car like this , use it, track it, enjoy it and put miles on it, is significantly lower then the current production numbers are.

I fully agree. The current situation is distorted by all the speculation created by Porsche. They will get screwed badly in the next downturn as many move to the competition these days.

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Jun 11, 2018 2:10:44 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: MKSGR

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Stunning color combo, as usual Mike kiss

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Jun 11, 2018 2:13:08 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: absent

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absent:
The funny thing is, the actual production would end up the same or even lower if these cars were made available to anyone who wanted one.

No one would pay a $100k premium if he could get it after a short time, many of the current (most) buyers get them because they see it as a money making opportunity (hence so many cars with delivery mileage only), if there is a negligible chance of that, they would lose interest.

I suspect the actual number of real buyers who want a car like this , use it, track it, enjoy it and put miles on it, is significantly lower then the current production numbers are.

Exactly what we have discussed a few months back. The market for a car in such a price bracket is only 1000-1500 max in the world.

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Jun 11, 2018 2:35:22 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: W8MM

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W8MM:
Brian Redman handing out the hardware at today's http://ohioconcours.com

Congrats, Mike...looking good (da man, his woman and the car Smiley ). Smiley

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Jun 11, 2018 2:54:46 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: RC

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Mike, great combination of colors. kiss

Who is Brian Redman? yes

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Jun 11, 2018 6:07:54 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: nberry

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nberry:
Mike, great combination of colors.

Who is Brian Redman?

Awesome race car driver

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Jun 11, 2018 8:11:01 PM

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 3993, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2003; Reply to: nberry

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nberry:
Mike, great combination of colors.

Who is Brian Redman?

Drove 908's, 917's and a stint at Formula 1 back in the day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Redman

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Jun 11, 2018 9:26:57 PM

absent: Pilot; Loc: Illinois , United States; Posts: 365, Gallery; Registered on: May 6, 2012; Reply to: nberry

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nberry:
Mike, great combination of colors.

Who is Brian Redman?

I would be embarrassed to ask a question like that.

Google it first.

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Jun 11, 2018 9:57:01 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: W8MM

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W8MM:

Drove 908's, 917's and a stint at Formula 1 back in the day.

I watched him drive a 935 at Monterey Historics in early 2000's and he was still amazing. Car had a fuel pick-up problem and would lose power on right hand corners, but he devastated the field in between rights...

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Jun 11, 2018 11:03:24 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: absent

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absent:
nberry:
Mike, great combination of colors.

Who is Brian Redman?

I would be embarrassed to ask a question like that.

Google it first.

Why? There are several Brian Redman's. Not embarrassed in the slightest. Smiley Smiley FWIW, I don't obsess over drivers. I only care about cars.

You have a problem with me? I believe there is an ignore function you can use or make yourself ABSENT. Smiley

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Jun 11, 2018 11:36:11 PM

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 3993, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2003; Reply to: nberry

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nberry:
absent:
nberry:
Mike, great combination of colors.

Who is Brian Redman?

I would be embarrassed to ask a question like that.

Google it first.

Why? There are several Brian Redman's. Not embarrassed in the slightest. FWIW, I don't obsess over drivers. I only care about cars.

You have a problem with me? I believe there is an ignore function you can use or make yourself ABSENT.

Nick,

Quit digging the hole deeper.

Here's a photo near the top of Google image search for "Brian Redman":

Does it look anything like the guy in my pic???

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Jun 12, 2018 5:13:05 AM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: W8MM

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Mike, I did not google the name because I don’t care. Your car was of interest to me and that’s it. You mention a name which I thought was close and important to you. I wanted an explanation from you why you referenced the individual. No big deal at least until someone wanted to make an issue of it. crying

I see you gave up your GT3RS. Lovely car but you have a worthy replacement. kiss

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Jun 12, 2018 5:49:49 AM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: nberry

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nberry:
Mike, I did not google the name because I don’t care. Your car was of interest to me and that’s it. You mention a name which I thought was close and important to you. I wanted an explanation from you why you referenced the individual. No big deal at least until someone wanted to make an issue of it.

You are right Nick - I don't see the issue with asking who some random dude on the Internet is Smiley

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Jun 12, 2018 6:12:28 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: W8MM

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W8MM:

Does it look anything like the guy in my pic???

Err, no, the guys in the cars in these two pics look totally different to me. Smiley

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Jun 12, 2018 8:06:05 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Rossi

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Same smile... indecision

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Jun 12, 2018 12:58:25 PM

absent: Pilot; Loc: Illinois , United States; Posts: 365, Gallery; Registered on: May 6, 2012; Reply to: RC

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A true Porsche enthusiast knows who Brian Redman is.

Definitely not a random internet guy.

Some of you here remind me of my former neighbor when he proudly showed me his new Chrysler back in early 80s.

I asked him whether it was 8 or 6 cylinder, he responded that he didn't know or cared, only styling mattered to him..... indecision

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Jun 12, 2018 1:15:44 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: absent

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absent:
A true Porsche enthusiast knows who Brian Redman is.

Definitely not a random internet guy.

Some of you here remind me of my former neighbor when he proudly showed me his new Chrysler back in early 80s.

I asked him whether it was 8 or 6 cylinder, he responded that he didn't know or cared, only styling mattered to him.....

OK, to be honest, I didn't have a clue who Brian Redman is but I live in Germany and I bet that 99% of the Porsche enthusiasts over here don't have a clue either.

I googled him, he is an interesting guy, so everything is good. Nick needs to work on his Google skills, other than that, I really don't see a problem.

I recognized Mike though instantly. Smiley No surprise here, he is the Einstein of the fast cars drivers world. Smiley Smiley

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Jun 12, 2018 1:55:42 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: absent

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absent:
A true Porsche enthusiast knows who Brian Redman is.

Definitely not a random internet guy.

Some of you here remind me of my former neighbor when he proudly showed me his new Chrysler back in early 80s.

I asked him whether it was 8 or 6 cylinder, he responded that he didn't know or cared, only styling mattered to him.....

Brian never won a race and his last competition was 44 years ago. He made it to the podium once. No surprise that no one heard of him. No disrespect in any way, I am sure he is the greatest of guys, but for everyone who are not 70+ he is a random Internet guy.

Everyone knows that Chrysler has 12 cylinders! Smiley

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Jun 12, 2018 2:07:01 PM

Kobalt: Expert; Loc: Europe , Sweden; Posts: 1819, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 18, 2015; Reply to: bluelines

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I must confess that I didn't know who Brian Redman was either.

But I'm glad - now I do and this must mean that I'm young!

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Jun 12, 2018 2:20:34 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14171, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: Kobalt

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I didn't have a clue also yes

But I have a neighbor who bought a 991 Carrera convertible and is very proud of it ( he is German ) and I asked him what engine size and HP those Carrera have now .... and he answered like yours : I have no clue, but it is fast indecision

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Jun 12, 2018 3:18:31 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Gnil

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I suspect 99% of Porsche owners don't have a clue as to who Redman is. I'll also wager they probably wouldn't take the time to Google him. indecision

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Jun 12, 2018 3:28:56 PM

lexs4: Senior; Loc: KY , United States; Posts: 570, Gallery; Registered on: May 17, 2005; Reply to: nberry

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nberry:
I suspect 99% of Porsche owners don't have a clue as to who Redman is. I'll also wager they probably wouldn't take the time to Google him.

I'm a yokel from Kentucky and I know who he is. My guess is people who are long time sports car racing or IMSA fans know him. Outside of that probably not...

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Jun 12, 2018 3:34:03 PM

m4ever: Veteran; Loc: Czech Republic , Italy; Posts: 1051, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 30, 2005; Reply to: nberry

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nberry:
I suspect 99% of Porsche owners don't have a clue as to who Redman is. I'll also wager they probably wouldn't take the time to Google him.

I would say 99% of modern Porsche owners. That would not apply to vintage or air cooled 911 owners. Redman won the Targa Florio in 1970 which was at that time one of the most important races where Porsche won 11 times (in 1957 the first time and in 1973 the last time). Porsche has a beautiful history with amazing achievements and great drivers and Redman is one of them.

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Jun 12, 2018 3:55:05 PM

Targa Tim: Expert; Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada , Canada; Posts: 1475, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 3, 2005; Reply to: m4ever

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As a modern Porsche owner, I thought we only need to know who Whoopsy is

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Jun 12, 2018 4:02:36 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Targa Tim

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Targa Tim:
As a modern Porsche owner, I thought we only need to know who Whoopsy is

Smiley Smiley

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Jun 12, 2018 4:17:45 PM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3484, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: Targa Tim

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Targa Tim:
As a modern Porsche owner, I thought we only need to know who Whoopsy is

As a modern R8 fan and sportscar in general, you need to know RC Smiley

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