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Mar 28, 2008 12:52:40 PM
- Schuffo
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Mar 28, 2008 2:14:32 PM
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Re: Car company family tree
@Schuffo: maybe I'm missing something (in which case, I'm sorry) but all you need to do is simply 'right click' (if you have Windows) or CTRL+click (if you have Mac) and then 'save picture as' on your PC (if you have Windows) or 'save image to downloads folder' (if you have Mac).
It's a bitmap (which is usually v large) but you can convert it to JPG/jpeg very easily so it will occupy much less hard drive space
It's a bitmap (which is usually v large) but you can convert it to JPG/jpeg very easily so it will occupy much less hard drive space
Mar 28, 2008 3:53:05 PM
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Re: Car company family tree
I saw one in CAR MAGAZINE awhile back that was MUCH easier to understand 
Thanks for posting though, it really goes to show that there are only a handful of companies that control everything.
Everything is owned or co-owned by someone you wouldn't expect. Let's not even get started about the platform/engine sharing!
Thanks for posting though, it really goes to show that there are only a handful of companies that control everything.
Everything is owned or co-owned by someone you wouldn't expect. Let's not even get started about the platform/engine sharing!
Re: Car company family tree
Very interesting and I'm very impressed.
There are few details that are wrong.
Regarding:
Peugeot:
- Ford --> Diesel: Technology sharing NO JV (ie no common asset)
- BMW --> Small petrol engines: Technology sharing, NO JV
- Mitsubishi --> SUV. It is just a sourcing agreement, NO JV
- Fiat --> There are 2 Sevel: Sevel SpA (manufacturing LCVs) and Sevel SA (manufacturing minivans)
- Renault --> 2 JVs :"Francaise de Mecanique" (V6 petrol engines) and "Societe de Transmissions Automatiques" (Automatic gearboxes)
Porsche:
Hybrid technology is co-developping with Volkswagen (brand) and Audi NOT Toyota.
Volkswagen:
Chrysler --> NO JV for the Minivan (Routan) it's just a sourcing agreement.
MAN --> Scania 17% of voting rights, not 52%.
Scania --> Volkswagen now owns 68.6% of the voting rights.
GM:
FIAT --> they don't have a direct stake in Fiat, they still have some assets in common.
Renault:
Nissan --> Renault has a 44% stake in Nissan not 100%
Lada --> Renault recently acquired 25% of Avtovaz (ie Lada)
There are few details that are wrong.
Regarding:
Peugeot:
- Ford --> Diesel: Technology sharing NO JV (ie no common asset)
- BMW --> Small petrol engines: Technology sharing, NO JV
- Mitsubishi --> SUV. It is just a sourcing agreement, NO JV
- Fiat --> There are 2 Sevel: Sevel SpA (manufacturing LCVs) and Sevel SA (manufacturing minivans)
- Renault --> 2 JVs :"Francaise de Mecanique" (V6 petrol engines) and "Societe de Transmissions Automatiques" (Automatic gearboxes)
Porsche:
Hybrid technology is co-developping with Volkswagen (brand) and Audi NOT Toyota.
Volkswagen:
Chrysler --> NO JV for the Minivan (Routan) it's just a sourcing agreement.
MAN --> Scania 17% of voting rights, not 52%.
Scania --> Volkswagen now owns 68.6% of the voting rights.
GM:
FIAT --> they don't have a direct stake in Fiat, they still have some assets in common.
Renault:
Nissan --> Renault has a 44% stake in Nissan not 100%
Lada --> Renault recently acquired 25% of Avtovaz (ie Lada)
Re: Car company family tree
Yes Samsung MOTORS is owned by Renault and is producing cars.
Up until very recently it was rebadged Nissan models this is why there were only sold in Korea. Now Samsung is developping its own models (most of them Nissan based) and is allowed to export them outside of Korea.
For example the Renault Koleos is a good example. It is based on a Nissan SUV platform that has been modified. It is manufactured in Korea, sold there and in Asia under the Samsung brand name while in Europe it is sold under the Renault badge.
Up until very recently it was rebadged Nissan models this is why there were only sold in Korea. Now Samsung is developping its own models (most of them Nissan based) and is allowed to export them outside of Korea.
For example the Renault Koleos is a good example. It is based on a Nissan SUV platform that has been modified. It is manufactured in Korea, sold there and in Asia under the Samsung brand name while in Europe it is sold under the Renault badge.
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