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Mar 26, 2008 11:17:56 AM

SimonH: Newbie; Loc: Lancs, UK; Posts: 49, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 21, 2007

Axle stand/jacking points

Hello Chaps,
The new TT will be arriving in April, and the first job will be to remove the wheels to apply some sealant.Can anyone point out to me, where the axle stand points should be?.I havent obviously had a look myself yet, but any pointers would be much appreciated, regards, SIMON.

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Mar 26, 2008 2:59:50 PM

jeffbco: Pilot; Loc: Denver; Posts: 494, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 18, 2006; Reply to: SimonH

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

See attachment for the jack points.

/uploads/429639-997LiftingPoints.pdf

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Mar 26, 2008 4:46:26 PM

sparkhill: Junior; Loc: Reno, NV; Posts: 115, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 5, 2007; Reply to: SimonH

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Quote:
SimonH said:
... the first job will be to remove the wheels to apply some sealant...

I am new here. What did I miss on this one?

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Mar 26, 2008 5:45:01 PM

atomic80: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Bellevue, WA USA , United States; Posts: 2596, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2006; Reply to: sparkhill

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

I'm wondering about that too. I didn't do that to mine either.

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Mar 26, 2008 5:52:05 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: atomic80

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

He's probably talking about some type of wax/sealant for the wheels like I put rejex on my wheels.

On the same subject what kind of jacks do you guys use? I need something to raise the car to switch between summer wheels & tires & winter wheels/tires.

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Mar 26, 2008 6:00:49 PM

atomic80: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Bellevue, WA USA , United States; Posts: 2596, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2006; Reply to: STRADALE

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

That would make sense. I thought maybe he was thinking of applying those sealings that you put UNDER the car. Dealerships used to offer those types all the time. Maybe they still do.

Anyways, about floor jacks. I was in a group buy for the AC DK13HLQ a while back. Awesome jack to have. Very low profile and extremely durable. Works great with cars, trucks and SUVs with its low profile yet enormous reach.

http://designsyntax.com/catalog/tools/AC-Hydraulic3.htm

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Mar 26, 2008 6:03:22 PM

SimonH: Newbie; Loc: Lancs, UK; Posts: 49, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 21, 2007; Reply to: STRADALE

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

All i mean to do is to apply some wheel sealant, that protects the rims from brake dust, as it forms a protective barrier against it.Some Poorboys wheel sealant will do the trick.Thanks jeffbco for the attatchment,regards, SIMON.

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Mar 26, 2008 6:05:49 PM

atomic80: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Bellevue, WA USA , United States; Posts: 2596, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2006; Reply to: SimonH

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Just curious which sealant do you plan to use? I use Rejex on my wheels (outside and inside)

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Mar 26, 2008 6:11:00 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: atomic80

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Thanks Jason.

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Mar 26, 2008 7:34:29 PM

atomic80: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Bellevue, WA USA , United States; Posts: 2596, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2006; Reply to: STRADALE

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

No problem, Gregg. What I especially like about these jacks is that the contact point is made of rubber not metal so there's no risk of damaging the undersides. I also got a set of 4 jackstands with the same rubber pads but I don't think they're from AC. I'll try to figure out who makes them if you're interested.

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Mar 26, 2008 9:30:54 PM

isurg: Newbie; Loc: KY, USA; Posts: 16, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 3, 2008; Reply to: atomic80

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

The attachment for the jack points doesn't show up on my page. Any suggestions why?

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Mar 26, 2008 10:41:47 PM

imcarnuts: Co-Pilot; Loc: Pennsylvania , United States; Posts: 229, Gallery; Registered on: May 14, 2007; Reply to: isurg

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

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eyesurg said:
The attachment for the jack points doesn't show up on my page. Any suggestions why?

Are you clicking on the word "attachment" beside the date & time in jeffbco's post?

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Mar 27, 2008 2:45:15 AM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: imcarnuts

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Uh..., Just wondering how are we supposed to remove the jack to slip some jack stands under there? Are there "secondary" lift points to use to that end? Anybody know?

E.g. my 03 Boxster has a procedure (semi-officially-approved) for how to transfer load from jack to JS.

Looks like Dan figured it out:

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Mar 27, 2008 1:15:46 PM

SimonH: Newbie; Loc: Lancs, UK; Posts: 49, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 21, 2007; Reply to: MMD

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Quote:
MMD said:
Uh..., Just wondering how are we supposed to remove the jack to slip some jack stands under there? Are there "secondary" lift points to use to that end? Anybody know?

E.g. my 03 Boxster has a procedure (semi-officially-approved) for how to transfer load from jack to JS.

Looks like Dan figured it out:

MMD,
That is why i asked the question in the first place.The attachment only shows the jacking points, for a jack, but i was asking where to place the axle stands as well.I will be able to see when i get me car, i thought somebody could point me in the right direction, before i got on my hands and knees, regards, SIMON.

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Mar 27, 2008 1:52:37 PM

jeffbco: Pilot; Loc: Denver; Posts: 494, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 18, 2006; Reply to: SimonH

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

You may have to join but there is a detailed thread on this at:
http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3404&hl=jack+stands

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Mar 27, 2008 2:15:56 PM

Alcyon: Junior; Loc: Madrid , Spain; Posts: 83, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 12, 2005; Reply to: jeffbco

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Not sure that TT engine has the same jack point, be careful!

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Mar 27, 2008 3:23:13 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: atomic80

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

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atomic80 said:
No problem, Gregg. What I especially like about these jacks is that the contact point is made of rubber not metal so there's no risk of damaging the undersides. I also got a set of 4 jackstands with the same rubber pads but I don't think they're from AC. I'll try to figure out who makes them if you're interested.

Been looking around and that jack has a great rep. It's like the Porsche of jacks. Only downside is it's price + shipping. But nothing more important than being safe right? And plus we're talking about jacking up a Porsche. Did you happen to look at the OMEGA before buying the AC? Also suppose to be a great quality low profile jack but it's less $ than the AC.

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/s...p;ci_sku=144795

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Mar 27, 2008 4:02:07 PM

atomic80: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Bellevue, WA USA , United States; Posts: 2596, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2006; Reply to: STRADALE

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Gregg,

Like I said, I got mine as part of a group buy about 5 years ago so I was able to get it for a good price. I don't even remember what I paid but I remember it was pretty good. Besides, it's like you said, it's like the Porsches of floor jacks, right? Don't you want a "Porsche" jack in your garage. I love the fact that it matches the color of my car.

The Omega one matches your car better though.

Bottom line is, you asked which one I liked and it's the AC. I love the fact that it also has an foot handle so you can add height in smaller increments if necessary too.

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Mar 27, 2008 6:01:52 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: atomic80

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

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atomic80 said:
Gregg,

Like I said, I got mine as part of a group buy about 5 years ago so I was able to get it for a good price. I don't even remember what I paid but I remember it was pretty good. Besides, it's like you said, it's like the Porsches of floor jacks, right? Don't you want a "Porsche" jack in your garage. I love the fact that it matches the color of my car. The Omega one matches your car better though.

Bottom line is, you asked which one I liked and it's the AC. I love the fact that it also has an foot handle so you can add height in smaller increments if necessary too.

I havent shopped pricing around yet but the AC is around $550 + $60 shipping. Check this out: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1814892

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Mar 27, 2008 8:42:14 PM

roadtrip: Veteran; Loc: new mexico, usa; Posts: 1172, Gallery; Registered on: May 31, 2006; Reply to: STRADALE

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

you cant screw up the jacking point ...the underside has 2 gussets each side that have recessed holes that receive the pin on the factory jack

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Mar 27, 2008 8:55:58 PM

atomic80: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Bellevue, WA USA , United States; Posts: 2596, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2006; Reply to: roadtrip

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Interesting..the price has definitely gone up since I got it. I don't remember what the original price was but the group buy price was this:

1 DK13HLQ jack w/ pad - $350 + $65 shipping - $415.00
4 3000N w/ pads - $240 + $45 shipping - $285.00

From www.ultimategarage.com

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Mar 27, 2008 9:31:02 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: roadtrip

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Quote:
roadtrip said:
you cant screw up the jacking point ...the underside has 2 gussets each side that have recessed holes that receive the pin on the factory jack

That is correct. Here's a pic of the 997 hole and post-delivery-purchased jack for 997.

How the heck do you jack the car up, then slip a jack _stand_ in the place of the jack?

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Mar 27, 2008 9:47:21 PM

Dan L: Expert; Loc: Santa Barbara, CA , United States; Posts: 1957, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 2, 2006; Reply to: MMD

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Aha! You have discovered the issue of HOW to put 4 jacks under a car with 4 jack ports.

What I have done is to place my jack beneath the rear jacking point and then jack up one side of the car (as you know, these are stiff bodies). You will be able to easily place a jack under the FRONT jacking recepticle then. You can then lower the car onto that one jack up front. Then shift the jack to a point beneath the rear suspension,--same side as you have the first jack placed. Using that, jack up the rear of the car,--and then place THAT second jack. You can then jack up the car on the other side to place the other two jacks simultaneously as I recall. This way you have a good solid jack (see the ones in the rear under my blue car) cushioned by a hockey puck at each of the solid jacking points. Then you can remove the hydraulic jack from the car (or leave it in for added safety). Reverse to take them out. HIGHLY recommend high quality jacks,--particularly in the rear. They obviously carry the most load.

Dan

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Mar 27, 2008 9:47:23 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: atomic80

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Quote:
atomic80 said:
Interesting..the price has definitely gone up since I got it. I don't remember what the original price was but the group buy price was this:

1 DK13HLQ jack w/ pad - $350 + $65 shipping - $415.00
4 3000N w/ pads - $240 + $45 shipping - $285.00

From www.ultimategarage.com

You got a GREAT deal. I dont even see the DK13HLQ at that site. This is interesting though, am I looking at the right jack? It says for basic tire removal the short body DK20 version is safer. 3rd paragraph
http://www.ultimategarage.com/ach-overview.html

But will the short body version lift high enough if I wanted to remove the wheel on my SUV?

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Mar 27, 2008 10:04:56 PM

atomic80: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Bellevue, WA USA , United States; Posts: 2596, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2006; Reply to: STRADALE

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Steve from Ultimate Garage put this group buy together for us M5board members back in 2002. I don't think he usually carries the DK13HLQ. Have you decided which one you're going to go with? Either one would work well. I personally like the AC better even after reading the comparo on the Corvette forum.

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Mar 28, 2008 1:40:20 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: atomic80

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Quote:
atomic80 said:
Steve from Ultimate Garage put this group buy together for us M5board members back in 2002. I don't think he usually carries the DK13HLQ. Have you decided which one you're going to go with? Either one would work well. I personally like the AC better even after reading the comparo on the Corvette forum.

No, not yet, no hurry. Hopefully I wont need it until I change to my winter wheel set-up which I'm trying to get info. on now. Which tires, etc. I want to be able to switch wheel set-ups at home.

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Mar 28, 2008 3:35:57 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: Dan L

Re: Axle stand/jacking points

Quote:
Dan L said:
Aha! You have discovered the issue of HOW to put 4 jacks under a car with 4 jack ports.

Hey Dan! THANKS for the procedure!

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