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    Mar 10, 2008 7:38:21 AM

    Lars997M
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    Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    Guys, as I heard Porsche will install a modifyed (adapted GUI) VW Navigation in there cars after this summer break. The VW touchscreen is build and developed together with Siemens VDO called RN 510 and comes with:

    - 30GB harddrive for maps and MP3s
    - SD Slot for updates and MP3s
    - Highspeed Processor

    This makes sence to me and would really lift the level of IT in our cars to state of the art again.

    cheers, L@rs

    Music:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLZraS2WqA&feature=related

    Video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9WOWSHwpEg&feature=related

    Navi:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiZK0JJmWI8&feature=related

    Mar 10, 2008 8:05:13 AM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    That is good news! It would be nice if it also has video inputs for track cams.

    Lets hope they update the insturments also!

    Mar 10, 2008 9:21:53 AM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    The VW takeover is paying dividends at last!

    Mar 10, 2008 9:40:25 AM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    Really good news

    Mar 10, 2008 10:52:10 AM

    Enzo II
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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    From Seat Altea?

    What about the new Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 one?


    By Andrea:

    "1.1.4 Murciélago LP 640 MY09 New standard contents - Functional, Entertainment
    Radio Kenwood
    * Touch Screen Monitor TFT 7.0"
    * DVD (DVD/DIVX/mpeg/jpeg/mp3/wma/aac),CD-R/RW playback, CD text
    * Built-in Dolby Digital and dts 5.1 decoders
    * New Navigation System available as OPTION
    (Built-in Advanced 3d-maps Navigation System and on internal flash memory hard disc 40 gb)
    1.1.5 Murciélago LP 640 MY09 New standard contents - Functional, Entertainment
    I-POD preparation and USB interface, available at the same time
    * Both connectors placed in the central glove box, please note that CD-Changer NOT longer available Bluetooth"

    http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=423342&an=0&page=0#423342

    Mar 10, 2008 1:15:51 PM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    And how much does all this "IT" weigh? I hope it is optional...

    Mar 10, 2008 2:01:18 PM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    Quote:
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    And how much does all this "IT" weigh? I hope it is optional...


    +1
    Besides when if ever has Porsche's "IT" been "state of the art"...remember it wasn't until the mid-90's that they installed the "state of the art" cup-holder in their cars...

    Mar 10, 2008 6:33:14 PM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    i think it could be retrofit

    Mar 11, 2008 3:54:21 AM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    YAY! Finally some "Excellence" for the mass of buttons, knobs and gauges on our front center console might be on the way.

    OTOH, maybe I've grown kind of fond of the look our front center console currently approximates:

    Mar 11, 2008 6:30:24 PM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    Hey... that big wart thing in the middle looks just like the timer thing that comes with the Sport Chrono pack... Hmm I smell a rat...

    Mar 11, 2008 8:24:39 PM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    That looks like an old Range Rover! That speedo should stop at 60...

    Mar 13, 2008 12:37:03 AM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    Quote:
    Lars997 said:
    Guys, as I heard Porsche will install a modifyed (adapted GUI) VW Navigation in there cars after this summer break. The VW touchscreen is build and developed together with Siemens VDO called RN 510 and comes with:

    - 30GB harddrive for maps and MP3s
    - SD Slot for updates and MP3s
    - Highspeed Processor

    This makes sence to me and would really lift the level of IT in our cars to state of the art again.

    cheers, [Email]L@rs[/Email]



    Sorry, to disappoint you but the RNS 510 will not find its way into any Porsche soon. My sources say that the PCM3 in the 997 facelift will still come from Becker. And that makes sense to me. I know the CAN networking/display protocols that the RNS 510 uses to communicate with other control units. They differ from the protocols/protocol versions Porsche is using. Furthermore, the Cayenne uses different protocols than in Porsche's sports cars and different protocols than in the facelifted Touareg that has the RNS 510. So, there would be much more necessary than just a GUI update to get the RNS 510 working in a Porsche. Becker has already done the job in their PCM2 to interface with both Cayenne and sports cars. So, why let a new manufacturer do the same job again?
    Besides, when the 997 facelift hits the market the RNS 510 will be more than a year old, surely with its successor just around the corner...

    Mar 13, 2008 6:42:04 AM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    @Ewi:

    This makes sence a lot! I just told what I heard.

    Lets wait and see - soon we will know more!

    May 25, 2008 7:59:02 PM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    While browsing PFF (German Porsche Fan Forum) I came across a nice PDF from Harman-Becker that leaves no doubt that the PCM3 still is from Becker.
    >> Link to Harman-Becker PDF document <<
    Look at page 7. Even the next PCM3.1 update is already presented there.
    What makes me nervous though is the fact that Becker never has had so many SOPs in so little time. Chances are quite good that the first buyers will be used as beta testers for a buggy PCM3

    May 25, 2008 8:58:11 PM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    Quote:
    ewi said:
    While browsing PFF (German Porsche Fan Forum) I came across a nice PDF from Harman-Becker that leaves no doubt that the PCM3 still is from Becker.
    >> Link to Harman-Becker PDF document <<
    Look at page 7. Even the next PCM3.1 update is already presented there.
    What makes me nervous though is the fact that Becker never has had so many SOPs in so little time. Chances are quite good that the first buyers will be used as beta testers for a buggy PCM3


    Isn't Becker the unit in the Ferrari ? most 612s &430s end up changing the whole unit

    May 25, 2008 9:34:07 PM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

    Quote:
    Italo said:
    Quote:
    ewi said:
    While browsing PFF (German Porsche Fan Forum) I came across a nice PDF from Harman-Becker that leaves no doubt that the PCM3 still is from Becker.
    >> Link to Harman-Becker PDF document <<
    Look at page 7. Even the next PCM3.1 update is already presented there.
    What makes me nervous though is the fact that Becker never has had so many SOPs in so little time. Chances are quite good that the first buyers will be used as beta testers for a buggy PCM3


    Isn't Becker the unit in the Ferrari ? most 612s &430s end up changing the whole unit



    The system is alright, it's the speakers that suck in a Ferrari.

    May 26, 2008 9:49:32 AM

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    Re: Facelift will get touchscreen Navi from VW

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