10.02.2008 15:32:19
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10.02.2008 15:46:00
- reginos
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Re: New Porsche Panamera (4 door sedan) Rumours
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Thanks for scan.
But, I hope the real Panamera looks better than these pictures.
I don't think it will look much different to be honest. It is better than what I expected from the camouflaged cars. However, if somebody likes the Porsche design language he will not dislike this car.
10.02.2008 16:10:12
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10.02.2008 19:05:26
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Re: New Porsche Panamera (4 door sedan) Rumours
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Thanks for the scan.
Looking at the pictures makes one wonder if Panamera is supposed to compete with the 'S' class?
If Porsche intends to attrackt S class buyers, I believe they picked a wrong design.
That hatch back makes me wanna
The only hope is that the Turbo model with the more complex rear wing/spoiler will camouflage that hatchback appearance.
Re: New Porsche Panamera (4 door sedan) Rumours
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bluelines said:
Hm, so what it this?
Lasergun?
To be serious, I think that is some kind of adaptive distance control.
Yes, I agree. It's the Imperial Deathstar Death Ray.
In my opinion adaptive cruise control, maybe combined with night vision as mentioned by RC some time ago.
Yes, definitely ACC. Regarding night vision, wouldn't that be stored inside the headlamps? It seems a bit low-placed to be an NV camera
Perhaps PARM (Porsche Anti-Radar Management) with laser jammer?
10.02.2008 20:13:58
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Re: New Porsche Panamera (4 door sedan) Rumours
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Ron (Houston) said:
Thanks for the scan.
Looking at the pictures makes one wonder if Panamera is supposed to compete with the 'S' class?
If Porsche intends to attract S class buyers, I believe they picked a wrong design.
That hatch back makes me wanna
The hatchback and the folding rear seats add practicality to this car. It is a first in this category and blends very well with the overall design. The S class appeals to different clientele IMO. A CLS AMG or even a CL500 might be Panameras competitors.
10.02.2008 20:14:19
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Re: New Porsche Panamera (4 door sedan) Rumours
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Ron (Houston) said:
Thanks for the scan.
Looking at the pictures makes one wonder if Panamera is supposed to compete with the 'S' class?
If Porsche intends to attrackt S class buyers, I believe they picked a wrong design.
That hatch back makes me wanna
The only hope is that the Turbo model with the more complex rear wing/spoiler will camouflage that hatchback appearance.
I thought they would make the rear much smoother... this is so ugly. Looks almost like a station wagon! WTF
why didnt they go with CLS shape...
this rear is FULGY
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Turbo Al said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
Ziggy said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
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bluelines said:
Hm, so what it this?
Lasergun?
To be serious, I think that is some kind of adaptive distance control.
Yes, I agree. It's the Imperial Deathstar Death Ray
In my opinion adaptive cruise control, maybe combined with night vision as mentioned by RC some time ago.
Yes, definitely ACC. Regarding night vision, wouldn't that be stored inside the headlamps? It seems a bit low-placed to be an NV camera
Perhaps PARM (Porsche Anti-Radar Management) with laser jammer?
I'm still in favor of the Death ray. Better to remove the entire problem than just the radar/laser
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Re: New Porsche Panamera (4 door sedan) Rumours
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Ron (Houston) said:
Thanks for the scan.
Looking at the pictures makes one wonder if Panamera is supposed to compete with the 'S' class?
If Porsche intends to attract S class buyers, I believe they picked a wrong design.
That hatch back makes me wanna
The hatchback and the folding rear seats add practicality to this car. It is a first in this category and blends very well with the overall design. The S class appeals to different clientele IMO. A CLS AMG or even a CL500 might be Panameras competitors.
Exactly. This is for those interested in performance and are willing to sacrifice comfort and practicality for it. I believe the Panamera will be one attractive car and all those who are condemning the car without having seen it without camo will like it. In fact I love how it looks in the second picture.
Re: New Porsche Panamera (4 door sedan) Rumours
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Ron (Houston) said:
Thanks for the scan.
Looking at the pictures makes one wonder if Panamera is supposed to compete with the 'S' class?
If Porsche intends to attract S class buyers, I believe they picked a wrong design.
That hatch back makes me wanna
The hatchback and the folding rear seats add practicality to this car. It is a first in this category and blends very well with the overall design. The S class appeals to different clientele IMO. A CLS AMG or even a CL500 might be Panameras competitors.
Exactly. This is for those interested in performance and are willing to sacrifice comfort and practicality for it. I believe the Panamera will be one attractive car and all those who are condemning the car without having seen it without camo will like it. In fact I love how it looks in the second picture.
I understand this sentiment. Problem is, "performance" and nearly two tons of automobile are difficult to reconcile. The turbo version is the only hope, I think.
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Turbo Al said:Quote:
luwalira said:Quote:
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Ron (Houston) said:
Thanks for the scan.
Looking at the pictures makes one wonder if Panamera is supposed to compete with the 'S' class?
If Porsche intends to attract S class buyers, I believe they picked a wrong design.
That hatch back makes me wanna
The hatchback and the folding rear seats add practicality to this car. It is a first in this category and blends very well with the overall design. The S class appeals to different clientele IMO. A CLS AMG or even a CL500 might be Panameras competitors.
Exactly. This is for those interested in performance and are willing to sacrifice comfort and practicality for it. I believe the Panamera will be one attractive car and all those who are condemning the car without having seen it without camo will like it. In fact I love how it looks in the second picture.
I understand this sentiment. Problem is, "performance" and nearly two tons of automobile are difficult to reconcile. The turbo version is the only hope, I think.
Well, nobody has said that it's meant to be a Lotus Elite competitor. It's a four door car and will obviously have weight comparable to the M5 and E55. Porsche could off course have made a small and much lighter sedan but they haven't and want to offer moderately spacious car for all those Porsche fans who trade in their 911s for an M5 or E55.
Porsche are simply filling a void and I'm much certain that many people want to enjoy the Porsche experience in the form of a 4 door saloon.
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Crash said:Quote:
Turbo Al said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
Ziggy said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
Rossi said:Quote:
bluelines said:
Hm, so what it this?
Lasergun?
To be serious, I think that is some kind of adaptive distance control.
Yes, I agree. It's the Imperial Deathstar Death Ray
In my opinion adaptive cruise control, maybe combined with night vision as mentioned by RC some time ago.
Yes, definitely ACC. Regarding night vision, wouldn't that be stored inside the headlamps? It seems a bit low-placed to be an NV camera
Perhaps PARM (Porsche Anti-Radar Management) with laser jammer?
I'm still in favor of the Death ray. Better to remove the entire problem than just the radar/laser
Definitely. Death ray is the way to go.
13.02.2008 14:20:01
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15.02.2008 13:41:13
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Re: New Porsche Panamera (4 door sedan) Rumours
15.02.2008 14:39:05
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15.02.2008 14:43:04
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Re: New Porsche Panamera (4 door sedan) Rumours
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Do you notice that it always was the same car? Evertytime the same plate. I guess this is an unofficial teaser made by Porsche employees directly
You are right. Without an insider this video would not have been possible.
My guess: Wendelin got a Handycam for christmas!
15.02.2008 15:08:39
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Re: New Porsche Panamera (4 door sedan) Rumours
I hope the rear is still heavily disguised so I will reserved my commnets until all the camo is off, because that rear is hideous, it looks like a corss between a oldsmobile stationwagon and a low-rider Cayenne 
Also they could put some life into the side lines of the car for heavens sake... some hips, widened wheel arches, some contour over the doors or side skirts,anyhting... its looks like a Citroen C6
Also they could put some life into the side lines of the car for heavens sake... some hips, widened wheel arches, some contour over the doors or side skirts,anyhting... its looks like a Citroen C6
15.02.2008 16:33:04
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Re: Porsche's four-door future...
Thanks luwalira.
As I said from the outset, this car seems to have a hatchback. Now, we have proof.
I don't know what they call it in Europe, but in the US that's a stationwagon.
But, by no means is it a four door coupe.
Put AWD on it and they have a crossover.
This car will be disastrous for Porsche.
As I said from the outset, this car seems to have a hatchback. Now, we have proof.
I don't know what they call it in Europe, but in the US that's a stationwagon.
But, by no means is it a four door coupe.
Put AWD on it and they have a crossover.
This car will be disastrous for Porsche.
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Thanks luwalira.
As I said from the outset, this car seems to have a hatchback. Now, we have proof.
I don't know what they call it in Europe, but in the US that's a stationwagon.
But, by no means is it a four door coupe.
Put AWD on it and they have a crossover.
This car will be disastrous for Porsche.
I don't think that it will be disastrous at all, it will be the opposite, a major success. We all kind of knew that it was going to have a hatch so these spy shots shouldn't surprise anyone.
The Mercedes CLS is one sexy for door coupe but many people buy the E-class without hesitation because the CLS is some what a cramped four door car, especially in the backseat.
Porsche doesn't only want to develop a well designed and sexy four door coupe, but they also want it to be a car for people buying M5s and E63s. The Panamera has to be just a useful otherwise that group of people won't buy it. That is the reason for the slightly hatchback-ish shape. Giving it the same shape as the Rapide or CLS would repel those selling their 911s for an M5. Porsche is targeting a special group of people with this car, namely those that want a roomy top of the line performance car.
I'm quite satisfied with the body shape and in some of the videos it looks really good.
22.02.2008 01:27:37
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