Jan 21, 2008 11:23:23 PM
Jan 22, 2008 12:25:25 AM
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rantanplan said:
M3 CSL (7:50) on Nordschleife, 997 GT3 (7:47) --> GT3 is a M3 CSL killer and not the other way around...
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Porsche-Jeck said:
@ ResB: count me in - can't wait
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rantanplan said:
M3 CSL (7:50) on Nordschleife, 997 GT3 (7:47) --> GT3 is a M3 CSL killer and not the other way around...
There is a lot of chatter on CLS forums of duals with GT3s. It is often claimed the the GT3 is faster on the straights but slower than the CSL in the corners (after it has the brakes upgraded).
But it would seem that it is a drivers race as both cars are quite close with no real killer in sight.
Jan 23, 2008 2:42:35 PM
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GRN2RSMO said:
I am not sure I can get that week off.
However if I could, I would need to get a car. Coming from the states what kind of things are available; can you rent porsches and take them to the ring? and lastly what should I expect to pay?
Jan 24, 2008 5:18:14 PM
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rantanplan said:
M3 CSL (7:50) on Nordschleife, 997 GT3 (7:47) --> GT3 is a M3 CSL killer and not the other way around...
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AUM said:
The Nordschleife is less demanding on brakes than most tracks but after three fast laps the standard M3/CSl brakes will overheat and turn to mush.
The APs (or at least pagid yellows and hi-temp brake fluid) are required to make the CSL stop properly. The GT3 brakes work out of the box and just need fluid upgrade.
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AUM said:
The Nordschleife is less demanding on brakes than most tracks but after three fast laps the standard M3/CSl brakes will overheat and turn to mush.
The APs (or at least pagid yellows and hi-temp brake fluid) are required to make the CSL stop properly. The GT3 brakes work out of the box and just need fluid upgrade.
If they work out of the box then why change the fluid?
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rantanplan said:
M3 CSL (7:50) on Nordschleife, 997 GT3 (7:47) --> GT3 is a M3 CSL killer and not the other way around...
Not really, The CSL has around 260bhp/ton and the GT3 around 295bhp/ton so really that should buy you more than three seconds a lap would you not agree.
I can only assume that the problem is with the 30 year old chassis design or the engine being in the wrong place.
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AUM said:
The Nordschleife is less demanding on brakes than most tracks but after three fast laps the standard M3/CSl brakes will overheat and turn to mush.
The APs (or at least pagid yellows and hi-temp brake fluid) are required to make the CSL stop properly. The GT3 brakes work out of the box and just need fluid upgrade.
If they work out of the box then why change the fluid?
Standard brake fluid has too low of a boiling point for serious track use.
Jan 25, 2008 11:54:13 AM
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Jan 25, 2008 11:00:18 PM
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rantanplan said:
well that may be true but at the end the GT3 still is faster than the CSL on the track..I thought that was the sole reason for one car to "kill" the other. Also, it has to be taken into consideration that sometimes small advantages of a car can not be put into a better lap time on NS. --> see GT3 vs. GT3 RS
by the way, I know how good the CSL is, my everyday is a E46 M3 with SMG which has been around the ring countless times...
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John H said:
This thread is going way off-topic...
It's about organising a meet-up. I'm in the process of trying to re-arrange my holiday dates.....fingers crossed.
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FF said:
Anyone from Rennteam at the Ring from 28. april to 4. may?
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FF said:
Anyone from Rennteam at the Ring from 28. april to 4. may?
Just be carefull about those dates guys. The ring is not open to the Public from the 30th April till the 3 May because of the scuderia Hanseat course.
I'll be taking part of the course if still place left.
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Anyone from Rennteam at the Ring from 28. april to 4. may?
Just be carefull about those dates guys. The ring is not open to the Public from the 30th April till the 3 May because of the scuderia Hanseat course.
I'll be taking part of the course if still place left.
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