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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
For Porsche's sake, I just hope that first picture is just the result of a bad photographic/lighting angle, whatever. 
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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
Looks as if someone de-bloated a new Cayenne and combined it with the Panamera front part...
Oh, forgot to say it: It is a concept, not a final product.
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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
Why didn’t they build a Mission E Cross Macan instead?
Fortunately this is only a concept. What’s with Porsche and their new busy design elements. It’s becoming cluttered like aftermarket. Even the GT2RS and 3RS are guilty of this IMO.
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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
Is this the final product or still a concept ?
Could replace the Macan ...
Looks ok, probably very interesting car and be a success , but Porsche is now definitely just a better Audi with some great sports cars on the side ..... Will I get lost in the process 
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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
Gnil:Is this the final product or still a concept ?
Could replace the Macan ...
Looks ok, probably very interesting car and be a success , but Porsche is now definitely just a better Audi with some great sports cars on the side ..... Will I get lost in the process
Concept and no, the Macan will get a proper ELV with the next gen...so no replacement.
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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
Gnil:RC:Concept and no, the Macan will get a proper ELV with the next gen...so no replacement.
The new All-Road from Audi then
Basically...yes...and this is actually a collaboration between Audi and Porsche, all ELVs as far as I heard.
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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
RC:Just out of curiosity, guys: Would you rather get this or a Tesla for the same money?
Neither out of choice, I still believe that tech like Graphene super capacitors will possibly replace lithium ion batteries, and hence e-tech cars have a long way to go.
But i guess if petrol dried up tomorrow, then Tesla....
6 mars 2018 09:16:31
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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
RC:Just out of curiosity, guys: Would you rather get this or a Tesla for the same money?
Is that a trick question? 
That first pic was horrible! Thank god of was just a bad picture cause it looks ok in the other photos.
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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
Carlos from Spain:RC:Just out of curiosity, guys: Would you rather get this or a Tesla for the same money?
Is that a trick question?
That first pic was horrible! Thank god of was just a bad picture cause it looks ok in the other photos.
This is why I tried to post the official pics fast...
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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
cdixon:RC:Just out of curiosity, guys: Would you rather get this or a Tesla for the same money?
Neither out of choice, I still believe that tech like Graphene super capacitors will possibly replace lithium ion batteries, and hence e-tech cars have a long way to go.
But i guess if petrol dried up tomorrow, then Tesla....
Why? Would you care to elaborate?
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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
I don't really like the look of either of them. I guess from a performance perspective Tesla still has it ? However the charge time on the Mission E is impressive.
But if the question is based on looks, I think the question that should really be asked is which out of i-Pace, Model X, or Mission E ?
Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
I really like it! More so than the standard Mission E actually 
Comparing it with a Tesla however just doesn't make sense. Can't compare a concept car that can be in your garage 2020/2021 with something Tesla have had on the road since 2013. In 2020 Tesla will offer something better than the existing line-up both when it comes to design, performance and charging speeds.
6 mars 2018 09:55:25
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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
I would be confident that the final production model will look better than the Geneva concept. Porsche does conduct customer feedback sessions and will note our feedback.
It's good that Porsche can share development costs with Audi, thus generating economies of scale.
The combined investments of Audi / Porsche / VW, Ford, GM, BMW, Mercedes will dwarf Tesla's capex budget going forward... along with their respective production volumes!
From the perspective of Tesla's sub-investment grade credit profile and weak liquidity position, I could not recommend buying a car from a counterparty where your deposit is at risk and there is a risk of financial distress, e.g. Chapter 11 restructuring.
Or to put it another way, I would rather buy a Porsche or Audi.
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Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
Come on guys, you are extremely Porsche biased. This is an ugly car. Very ugly. Period.
Performance wise is not groundbreaking either.
Who said Tesla is done? With products like this Tesla still has a lot to say in the ELV market. Better value for the money and way better looking than this homer-simpson-creation-ish car.
Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo
Rotbart:The biggest question is, how on earth they could put the rims of a Lamborghini Urus onto that car.
Not sure they are the same but I guess you remember...platforms...Audi... 
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