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    Mar 8, 2018 3:11:27 PM

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    Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo

    lukestern:

    It's like with smartphones. When the first designed smartphones lacking buttons appeared they seemed to be strange and impossible to use. How would I survive without keyboard/buttons and how can I talk in that thing when it doesn't have a clamshell? smiley

    Never had that issue...on the contrary. Smiley

    Saying all that I still prefer the rather traditional design lines and many of the EV prototypes, concepts and "Design studies" are a bit over the top. Still like the minimalism and also focus on new materials. Leather in a car to me something that belongs to the past. Hot in the summer and cold in the winter and doesn't wear very well over time. Luxury fabric materials is much nicer and we'll probably see much more of that the coming years.

    I love leather in cars but I actually prefer Alcantara mixed with leather. Porsche does a wonderful job here.

    What the VW-group have in store with the *ZZ* cars I'm not sure. Think it's not very appealing so far... Porsche seem to get it much more "right", but it's getting a bit bland at the same time. The specs on the Mission-E versions are a bit of a disappointment also. Apart from the 800v charging, there is not a single thing that is ground braking. And the 350kW charging speed will be the norm in 2020 anyway. Maybe Tesla will upgrade their Superchargers in 2020 to double that effect. Who knows. The knowledge is for sure there with the Megachargers for the Semi....

    Just wait and let VW Group surprise you... (and others). Smiley Not sure if they are going to stick to this (in my opinion ambitious and way too premature) program because once the pressure from the emissions scandal will ease, they might go back to "business" and sell Diesels again instead. Smiley

    And oh. Why is everybody in here using the abbreviation ELV that doesn't even exist? It is EV or BEV indecision

    We got used to it, plain and simple. Humans are animals of habit. Smiley


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    Mar 8, 2018 4:19:13 PM

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    Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo

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    I'm not sure it's actually safe to have cars with front seats that don't face airbags, but yeah, in the distant future we will just be riding in glass pods playing on your phones or computers or reading or whatever. The perfect car of the future is just a greenhouse to relax or do other stuff.

    And I agree, leather sucks. I would rarely even buy leather furniture. It's always too hot, too cold, too sweaty, too sticky, doesn't wear well. There is really nothing that great about leather aside from being easy to wipe off spills.

    Maybe you didn’t buy nice enough leather pieces, leather is one of the most unique noble texture anywhere, but good leather is expensive.

    Mar 8, 2018 4:21:58 PM

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    An interior chair is the only piece of leather furniture I'd ever get.

    Mar 8, 2018 4:25:54 PM

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    Leather jacket? Leather pants? Leather seats? Couch? Leather lined throws? Leather gloves? Leather furniture? Leather writing pads? Leather carpets? Leather door pulls? Leather boxes? Leather watch bands?

    Mar 8, 2018 4:37:53 PM

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    An interior chair is the only piece of leather furniture I'd ever get.

    What interior do you have in your car? Smiley

    Mar 8, 2018 4:40:12 PM

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    noone1:

    An interior chair is the only piece of leather furniture I'd ever get.

    What interior do you have in your car? Smiley

    Flugzeugsitze (1).jpg.2158386.jpg

    No leather... Smiley


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    Mar 8, 2018 4:56:29 PM

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    Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo

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    Leather jacket? Leather pants? Leather seats? Couch? Leather lined throws? Leather gloves? Leather furniture? Leather writing pads? Leather carpets? Leather door pulls? Leather boxes? Leather watch bands?

    I'm talking mainly furniture, and not the kind with fur still on them, though I don't think those are very nice either.

    Leather carpets... leather boxes... WTF?

    Leather gloves suck BTW and we are now waiting for pictures of you wearing your leather pants.

    Mar 8, 2018 4:57:28 PM

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    noone1:

    An interior chair is the only piece of leather furniture I'd ever get.

    What interior do you have in your car? Smiley

    McLaren was mainly alcantara. Some leather on the seats, but not the inserts that you're really in contact with.

    Mar 8, 2018 5:20:14 PM

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    The Sport-Tex seats that Porsche offer are really nice. Very comfortable and no sliding around in the seats with leather seats. The leather parts on the dash etc could be switched out to a superior materials like Ultrafabric for instance which is really nice.

    Moving forward we'll probably see a lot more interior alternatives to leather even from the luxury brands. The new Lagonda concept in Geneva got some sort of whool/cashmere interior and many other of the concept cars also showcased with different interior materials than leather and still manage to keep the luxurious feeling and being a bit more contemporary.

    Mar 8, 2018 6:32:00 PM

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    Tesla is leather free now...

    Mar 8, 2018 6:45:44 PM

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    Tesla is leather free now...

    thanks for letting us know, as this is a car brand that I do not follow at all Smiley


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    Mar 9, 2018 10:16:33 AM

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    Kill this ugly Citroen with fire, please... heart

    Smiley

    Butt ugly in real. Burn it.


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    Mar 9, 2018 5:42:17 PM

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    Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo

    SciFrog:

    Tesla is leather free now...

     

    Yikes, more reasons not to buy one Smiley

    I like my leather dash, steering column, visors, handles, sills, centre tunnel, etc, all with contrast stitchings please!

     


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    Mar 10, 2018 1:45:22 PM

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    Re: Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo

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    SciFrog:

    Tesla is leather free now...

     

    Yikes, more reasons not to buy one Smiley

    I like my leather dash, steering column, visors, handles, sills, centre tunnel, etc, all with contrast stitchings please!

     

    Smiley Also some Alcantara here and there wouldn't hurt...


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