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Feb 27, 2018 1:18:51 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006

Oil consumption

So I had my Cayenne last in for it's annual service last Sept at 14,343km, car came out with a full tank of oil.

5,541km land 4 months later in late January, this happened.

Because of the highly unreliable Porsche Dipstick-less Oil Measuring system, PDOM for short, I only put in 1.5 litres.

About 3/4 way back to top.

But that's just a ballpark. The electronic gauge shows from fully to the top to half way down randomly.

And today, exactly one month and 2,239km later:

According to Porsche's shop guidelines, the cars are allowed to burn up to 1 liter per 1,200km. So even with that lax a standard, my car is borderline out of spec this time around.

Unless of course they had installed a prototype F1 engine in my car where it burn oil to make extra HP!

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Feb 27, 2018 8:43:56 AM

crayphile: Rennteam Pro; Loc: England , United Kingdom; Posts: 2861, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 16, 2004; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Oil consumption

Whoopsy:
According to Porsche's shop guidelines, the cars are allowed to burn up to 1 liter per 1,200km. So even with that lax a standard, my car is borderline out of spec this time around.

Unless of course they had installed a prototype F1 engine in my car where it burn oil to make extra HP!

The Cayenne Turbo and Turbo S's V8 has always been a big oil burner as you know. However,I suspect you drive yours hard than most Smiley , which must increase the oil consumption as well.

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Feb 27, 2018 8:46:25 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: crayphile

Re: Oil consumption

crayphile:
Whoopsy:
According to Porsche's shop guidelines, the cars are allowed to burn up to 1 liter per 1,200km. So even with that lax a standard, my car is borderline out of spec this time around.

Unless of course they had installed a prototype F1 engine in my car where it burn oil to make extra HP!

The Cayenne Turbo and Turbo S's V8 has always been a big oil burner as you know. However,I suspect you drive yours hard than most , which must increase the oil consumption as well.

Oil consumption usually drops over time, so Nick's situation sounds a little bit like a...situation. I think he suspects something and so do I but I hope everything is OK. if not, well...Porsche will take care of him, no doubt about it. Smiley

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Feb 27, 2018 2:55:17 PM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: RC

Re: Oil consumption

good excuse to park yrs in shop and buy another one on empty slot angry

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Feb 27, 2018 4:01:17 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: martini964

Re: Oil consumption

For the last year and a half of ownership, not counting the annual service, I had put in 10 litres of oil. No joke.

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Feb 27, 2018 4:32:19 PM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Oil consumption

confirmed with my colleague, he has early 2017,but its turbo and well, he drives very hard, he put 4.5 litre,if this helps

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Feb 27, 2018 5:51:06 PM

JoeRockhead: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Topside , Monaco; Posts: 8033, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 17, 2007; Reply to: martini964

Re: Oil consumption

My M5 burned a litre a month, the dealer insisted it was normal. Their "solution" was to put two litres in when the oil light came on (instead of 1) and then I wouldn't have to do it as often. LOL..

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Mar 1, 2018 7:50:00 PM

The farmer: Senior; Loc: Stockholm , Sweden; Posts: 687, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 25, 2016; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Oil consumption

Whoopsy:
For the last year and a half of ownership, not counting the annual service, I had put in 10 litres of oil. No joke.

No worries Nick, if a small time vip like me get a new engine when the oil consumption is going crazy, I’m quit sure your new engine is already on its way.... Smiley Smiley

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Mar 2, 2018 1:28:35 AM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: The farmer

Re: Oil consumption

The farmer:
Whoopsy:
For the last year and a half of ownership, not counting the annual service, I had put in 10 litres of oil. No joke.

No worries Nick, if a small time vip like me get a new engine when the oil consumption is going crazy, I’m quit sure your new engine is already on its way....

So was it in CTTS too?

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Mar 2, 2018 6:33:12 AM

The farmer: Senior; Loc: Stockholm , Sweden; Posts: 687, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 25, 2016; Reply to: martini964

Re: Oil consumption

Noooo, I’m just kidding with Nick. I was talking about the famous .1 GT3 engine, that now has ten years warranty smiley I’m on my third engine now.....

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Mar 2, 2018 2:58:25 PM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: The farmer

Mar 2, 2018 3:49:10 PM

ALDO: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany, Black Forrest , Germany; Posts: 3072, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2003; Reply to: martini964

Re: Oil consumption

My Panamera turbo has consumed oil nearly as me wine. I started to buy Mobil 1 oil direct from refinery..
The Audi S8 engine hasn´t consumed not 0,1l oil the last 30.000 km - every time I check it is full.

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Mar 2, 2018 4:53:05 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: ALDO

Re: Oil consumption

Over the last 27 years of my driving life, I can honestly say I have had to add a total perhaps 30 litres into my cars ever. And I have gone through perhaps 45-50 cars. Lost count haha.

The Cayenne already took 10 litres, 918 3 litres. 911R 1, GT3RS 1, 997 Turbo 2, 997 Turbo S 3.

Everything else I have owned got like 10 litres total, be it BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Lamborghini, VW, Honda, Mazda, Aston, Ferrari, Jeep, Chevrolet, Ford, Land Rover, Volvo, Lexus, Lincoln, McLaren. Even my older Porsche don't eat much oil if at all.

Think I am seeing a trend here.

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Mar 2, 2018 5:56:36 PM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Oil consumption

Nick, you have owned lexus too? angry

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Mar 2, 2018 10:03:17 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: martini964

Re: Oil consumption

martini964:
Nick, you have owned lexus too?

Had a RX330 before, wife picked it and I can't get rid of it quickly enough. Worse SUV ever. The seat is so uncomfortable I might as well be sitting on pun cushions. Car has zero power. Engine just thrashing all day long. transmission has a brain smaller than an ant. The ride is shit too, like an 70's American car boat, feels like it would tip over for even the slightest turn.

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Mar 3, 2018 2:45:23 AM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Oil consumption

had the same car(wife),never touched it,just filling gas whenever she needed,which was a block away. hated it, and yes,seats was very bad,on the other hand,LS400 was the best I had ,best seats ever ,drove 56 hours straight in winter from Baton ruge to minneapolis in snow.

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Mar 3, 2018 11:14:41 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: martini964

Re: Oil consumption

Worst oil consumption of all my present cars...R8 (here you go, Nick 🤗).

One liter of oil every 4000 km, never had such a high oil consumption since my 996 Turbo S.

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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

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Mar 3, 2018 1:00:26 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21148, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: RC

Re: Oil consumption

Hmmm... the GTS has already over 60,000km and I never had to add a single drop of oil...

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Mar 3, 2018 9:19:29 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: Oil consumption

My GTS (997) has burnt less than 2 litres in 7 years!!

The only Lexus I've ever owned, an SC430, was as boring as hell - like being taxied everywhere! Solidly built and never broke down even though I wished it would, just to create some interest... mail

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Mar 3, 2018 10:21:22 PM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: John H

Re: Oil consumption

John H:
...... Solidly built and never broke down even though I wished it would, just to create some interest...

Buy a Volvo V40 John, mine has caused me plenty of “interest” over the last year! Smiley

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Mar 4, 2018 1:58:23 AM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: John H

Re: Oil consumption

John H:
My GTS (997) has burnt less than 2 litres in 7 years!!

The only Lexus I've ever owned, an SC430, was as boring as hell - like being taxied everywhere! Solidly built and never broke down even though I wished it would, just to create some interest...

The dealer was killing himself back in 2004 selling me one,but i told him give me sc400 manual instead,lol, sc400 manual never came to canada.

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Mar 4, 2018 3:12:54 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: martini964

Re: Oil consumption

martini964:
had the same car(wife),never touched it,just filling gas whenever she needed,which was a block away. hated it, and yes,seats was very bad,on the other hand,LS400 was the best I had ,best seats ever ,drove 56 hours straight in winter from Baton ruge to minneapolis in snow.

So glad I am not the only one who thinks those are BAD seats!

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Mar 5, 2018 9:33:54 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: Oil consumption

Carlos from Spain:
Hmmm... the GTS has already over 60,000km and I never had to add a single drop of oil...

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⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS

Smiley 991.2 GTS Cab...2000 km...not a drop of oil (still at max). Biturbo, so...

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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

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Mar 5, 2018 6:44:20 PM

993Targa: Rennteam Pro; Loc: ZH , Switzerland; Posts: 2522, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 16, 2004; Reply to: RC

Re: Oil consumption

2011 Cayenne S (V8) only 3-4 litres over almost 100K km. Have to add that most my kms are highway. Quite often drive to the Netherlands. In Germany I drive as fast as traffic allows, so not just cruising in CH at 140 km/h max.

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Mar 5, 2018 6:47:11 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: 993Targa

Re: Oil consumption

My two Cayennes needed 4 to 5 liters a year...

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Mar 5, 2018 7:09:26 PM

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , United States; Posts: 6920, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2006; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: Oil consumption

None of my past 8 911s going back 38 years burned oil but then again they were each my daily driver. I believe using these cars each day is the key to not having a motor that burns oil.

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Mar 6, 2018 7:31:24 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: Leawood911

Re: Oil consumption

My car just came back from an investigation by my foreman. Everything checked out. Even the bore scope exam reveals that my cylinders are in perfect condition.....................

I am speechless right now about the oil consumption.

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Mar 6, 2018 1:31:49 PM

Kimi: Co-Pilot; Loc:; Posts: 192, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 18, 2003; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Oil consumption

Maybe they use the same piston rings as in Audi engines up to 2015 or so? Those start to leak oil very early leading to engine rebuilds with improved piston rings.

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Mar 6, 2018 2:07:54 PM

crayphile: Rennteam Pro; Loc: England , United Kingdom; Posts: 2861, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 16, 2004; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Oil consumption

Whoopsy:
I am speechless right now about the oil consumption.

It is your right foot my friend - I said it all along.

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Mar 6, 2018 3:27:12 PM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: crayphile

Re: Oil consumption

crayphile:
Whoopsy:
I am speechless right now about the oil consumption.

It is your right foot my friend - I said it all along.

right on Smiley Smiley

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