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Feb 10, 2018 8:08:34 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: Moser

Re: Issues With Velar

Moser:
So just a quick update.... The new engine has arrived, and they are in process of performing the surgery on the car. It's pretty crazy just how much stuff needs to be removed from the car in order to replace the engine....They say they need another week, i'm just worried that this engine replacement will lead to other issues. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I haven't had a great experience so far with LR.

It's a Range Rover. That's par for the course. What else did you expect?

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Feb 10, 2018 3:56:39 PM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3484, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Issues With Velar

Nick, morale booster Smiley

LR is crap though

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Feb 10, 2018 6:42:23 PM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: martini964

Re: Issues With Velar

martini964:
I was going to tell you about lemon law,but noon beat me, anyways,good luck. there is old saying in Australia,if you wanna go out get the Landrove, but if you wanna come back, take a Toyota,lol.

Smiley Smiley but a very sad reflection of a great product let down by patchy build quality and indifferent after sales service. You’d think Land Rover would have learned from the bad old days of British Leyland back in the 1970’s where customers left in droves to buy German and Japanese competitors as a result. Smiley

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Feb 10, 2018 7:59:54 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13735, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Issues With Velar

Whoopsy:
Moser:
So just a quick update.... The new engine has arrived, and they are in process of performing the surgery on the car. It's pretty crazy just how much stuff needs to be removed from the car in order to replace the engine....They say they need another week, i'm just worried that this engine replacement will lead to other issues. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I haven't had a great experience so far with LR.

It's a Range Rover. That's par for the course. What else did you expect?

Nonsense! The quality of LR has improved significantly since Tata bought it. My RRS which I bought in 2015 has almost been fault free compared to the Cayenne I owned which spent more time in the shop than in my garage.

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Feb 11, 2018 1:36:55 AM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: nberry

Re: Issues With Velar

nberry:
Whoopsy:
Moser:

It's a Range Rover. That's par for the course. What else did you expect?

Nonsense! The quality of LR has improved significantly since Tata bought it. My RRS which I bought in 2015 has almost been fault free compared to the Cayenne I owned which spent more time in the shop than in my garage.

You might be lucky owner, my buddy had to change transmission in less than 6k. ( 2017 model),while he was there there was a 2013 model was also changing the tranny,with 23k on it.....

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Feb 11, 2018 10:45:23 AM

Kimi: Co-Pilot; Loc:; Posts: 192, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 18, 2003; Reply to: martini964

Re: Issues With Velar

I've looked into replacing my daily driver and full-size RR in mind have been reading fullfatrr.com. I have to say that I've never heard people returning the car to dealer after experiencing multiple infotainment issues but there are several of those there. Seems to be MY17 and MY18 issue. Also, people there seem to admit that it is still way behind German marques in overall quality.

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Feb 11, 2018 3:01:04 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: Kimi

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I am in the sam boat as Nick. My RRS so far has been more reliable than the 3 Porsche SUV I have owned...

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Feb 12, 2018 5:31:39 PM

Moser: Senior; Loc: Larnaca , Cyprus; Posts: 535, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2006; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: Issues With Velar

Seems the RRs going to the US have superior build quality that those that go elsewhere :)

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Feb 12, 2018 5:47:59 PM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3484, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: Moser

Re: Issues With Velar

Moser:
Seems the RRs going to the US have superior build quality that those that go elsewhere :)

they are just used to crap american cars quality so anything coming from the old continent is like gem Smiley

I am running already Smiley

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Feb 12, 2018 11:42:16 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13735, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Moser

Re: Issues With Velar

Moser:
Seems the RRs going to the US have superior build quality that those that go elsewhere :)

It may be that the new model Velar has some issues to work out. As far as I am concerned, the RRS is the best SUV I have owned. Smiley

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Feb 13, 2018 3:49:11 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: the-missile

Re: Issues With Velar

the-missile:
Moser:
Seems the RRs going to the US have superior build quality that those that go elsewhere :)

they are just used to crap american cars quality so anything coming from the old continent is like gem

I am running already

Smiley

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Feb 14, 2018 2:01:42 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: bluelines

Re: Issues With Velar

bluelines:
the-missile:
Moser:
Seems the RRs going to the US have superior build quality that those that go elsewhere :)

they are just used to crap american cars quality so anything coming from the old continent is like gem

I am running already

Smiley

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Feb 14, 2018 6:08:30 PM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: the-missile

Re: Issues With Velar

the-missile:
Moser:
Seems the RRs going to the US have superior build quality that those that go elsewhere :)

they are just used to crap american cars quality so anything coming from the old continent is like gem

I am running already

Just don’t criticise German cars - you might not get away with it so easily Smiley

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Feb 15, 2018 6:05:07 AM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3484, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: Issues With Velar

Love German cars...

much less love with anything coming from the Island located on our side coast smiley

running faster

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Feb 15, 2018 8:31:59 AM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: the-missile

Re: Issues With Velar

the-missile:
Love German cars...

much less love with anything coming from the Island located on our side coast

running faster

I guess I asked for that! Smiley (We have three cars, sadly none built here, two shortly being replaced with a VW Golf) Smiley

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Feb 15, 2018 6:04:17 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: Issues With Velar

Speaking of Velar...current lease offer at German dealers (this is the official offer, dealers can apparently top it).

Prices incl. VAT.

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Feb 15, 2018 8:15:19 PM

Moser: Senior; Loc: Larnaca , Cyprus; Posts: 535, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2006; Reply to: RC

Re: Issues With Velar

Had a chat with the dealer today as the car is close to being finished, and I basically told him I don't want the car back after the engine replacement. They only offered an extension of the warranty which I told them they had to do and they havent really offered me anything to keep me happy. This is the second brand new car I buy from them and they know that I buy my cars fully loaded and change them every 2-3 years. I floated an idea by them and I'm gonna see what they come back to me with. I offered to buy another car from them same options as mine but with the 3.0 Diesel V6 instead of the 2.0 L Diesel 240 bhp that I currently have.

I asked them to as LR for support to take back my vehicle at the price I paid for it and order me an new one with the bigger engine and I would pay the difference of the engine price. They didn't say no, they asked to study this option and I will see what they come back to me with. I just don't like the idea of having a new engine and that I have to change the log book of the car with a new engine number which goes on the cars record. I know it happens and that's what warranties are for, but I'm trying to get more out of them instead of just a one year warranty extension. I've had the car 6 months of which it's been with them for 2.

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Feb 15, 2018 10:37:34 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: Moser

Re: Issues With Velar

If you don't want it that bad, just sell it and buy a new one.

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Feb 15, 2018 11:59:00 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: noone1

Re: Issues With Velar

noone1:
If you don't want it that bad, just sell it and buy a new one.

Maybe you didn't pay attention but once he gets a new engine, the value of his car tanks.

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Feb 16, 2018 12:35:41 AM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: RC

Re: Issues With Velar

I don't think that's true at all. It's replace under warranty. Won't show anything bad on the carfax or whatever you guys use over there. It will be a delivery mileage Velar.

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Feb 16, 2018 12:51:48 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: noone1

Re: Issues With Velar

noone1:
I don't think that's true at all. It's replace under warranty. Won't show anything bad on the carfax or whatever you guys use over there. It will be a delivery mileage Velar.

I wouldn't want such a car and I know many who think alike. Why? Because there is always a suspicion that there was "more" behind it. Human nature. Dealer needs to disclose the changed engine, so customers would know. Same applies to the private market...I think.

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Feb 16, 2018 2:35:44 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: noone1

Re: Issues With Velar

noone1:
I don't think that's true at all. It's replace under warranty. Won't show anything bad on the carfax or whatever you guys use over there. It will be a delivery mileage Velar.

Perhaps you should buy it off his hands then if you think it's nothing. Smiley

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Feb 16, 2018 5:03:47 AM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3484, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: RC

Re: Issues With Velar

RC:
noone1:
I don't think that's true at all. It's replace under warranty. Won't show anything bad on the carfax or whatever you guys use over there. It will be a delivery mileage Velar.

I wouldn't want such a car and I know many who think alike. Why? Because there is always a suspicion that there was "more" behind it. Human nature. Dealer needs to disclose the changed engine, so customers would know. Same applies to the private market...I think.

the only similar logic did not apply for only 1 car that I know is the GT3.1 at the time of first resale. now, the car being more than 3 years old... good luck Smiley one major reason for Porsche to propose the extended free warranty.

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Feb 16, 2018 6:38:37 AM

Moser: Senior; Loc: Larnaca , Cyprus; Posts: 535, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2006; Reply to: noone1

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noone,

that's what I proposed to the dealer, that I will order a new one, and whatever the difference in the list price between what I originally paid for mine and the new one I will pay. I just want them to value my car which has delivery miles as close as possible to the price I paid... so the difference won't be that big.

moser

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Feb 16, 2018 7:42:45 AM

wantone: Veteran; Loc: Athens , Greece; Posts: 1267, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 21, 2009; Reply to: Moser

Re: Issues With Velar

Velars should be rare in Cyprus, I think this car should be able to find a new owner easily.

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Feb 16, 2018 1:19:41 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: Issues With Velar

Whoopsy:
noone1:
I don't think that's true at all. It's replace under warranty. Won't show anything bad on the carfax or whatever you guys use over there. It will be a delivery mileage Velar.

Perhaps you should buy it off his hands then if you think it's nothing.

Don't want it, but he's also not obligated to write "ENGINE REPLACED BECAUSE OF PROBLEMS!!!!11" on his for sale ad.

Put a few miles on it and sell it. Just say you didn't like it or have to move for work/family and need to get rid of it.

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Feb 16, 2018 1:33:51 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21148, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: noone1

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Yes, excellent advise, instead of reaching an honest arrangement with the dealer, why bother when you can just lie about it and pass the problem to someone else

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Feb 16, 2018 2:26:44 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Um, what exactly is the problem? He's got a perfectly fine working Velar with a new engine. If I were LR, I'd just say OK, take the car back and then give it right back to him with a new VIN. "Here ya go, one brand new Velar coming up!"

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Feb 16, 2018 2:32:14 PM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: noone1

Re: Issues With Velar

noone1:
Whoopsy:
noone1:

Don't want it, but he's also not obligated to write "ENGINE REPLACED BECAUSE OF PROBLEMS!!!!11" on his for sale ad.

Put a few miles on it and sell it. Just say you didn't like it or have to move for work/family and need to get rid of it.

It matters if you wanna put ur head on pillow and have a good,relaxed sleep. You should be as honest as possible to buyer,period

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Feb 16, 2018 3:03:41 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: martini964

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Sorry, I don't subscribe to that line of thinking because people are dumb and make a big deal about anything just to get a lower price.

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