crayphile:pmarkow:not sure what to say. i hope it will grow on me as the 458Speciale did. this is surely going to be a super fast car....
It will it be as fast as the 720S
Quite sure about it, the 720S is (and should be) the new "benchmark".
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
RC:crayphile:pmarkow:not sure what to say. i hope it will grow on me as the 458Speciale did. this is surely going to be a super fast car....
It will it be as fast as the 720S
Quite sure about it, the 720S is (and should be) the new "benchmark".
I thought the "benchmark" is always the Porsche Turbo?
We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
Rossi:RC:crayphile:pmarkow:not sure what to say. i hope it will grow on me as the 458Speciale did. this is surely going to be a super fast car....
It will it be as fast as the 720S
Quite sure about it, the 720S is (and should be) the new "benchmark".
I thought the "benchmark" is always the Porsche Turbo?
Got me here...
When they introduced this slogan with the 991.1 Turbo S, I was quite surprised as well because even then, the 911 Turbo S was no benchmark.
I think Porsche simply overslept the straight line performance increase of the past couple of years and concentrated way too much on track performance.
They tried to "save" this by making the 911 Turbo S a 0-100 kph acceleration monster but it wasn't enough.
The strategy worked, the 911 Turbo S sold (and still sells?) pretty well as far as I understood but I still think that Porsche lost lots of former loyal Porsche customers in the process.
Ferrari looked more into the future and was spot on: The power increase from the 458 to the 488 was a whopping 100 hp, while the 991.1 Turbo S got a ridiculous 30 hp power increase over the previous 997.2 Turbo S model.
I still cannot understand the strategy behind this but I guess Porsche was never about power only, even if I think that this could bite them in the ass sooner or later and probably already did (McLaren and other manufacturers closing in...or even overtaking them).
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
Rossi:Lars997:Rossi:Here we are...
Apparently this is a photoshop. It stays interesting!
Why do you think this is a PS?
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We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
We discussed this picture in my SLS group and one of the members (largest Ferrari collector in Germany) was saying that it is apparently a Photoshop.
Lars997:Rossi:Lars997:Rossi:Here we are...
Apparently this is a photoshop. It stays interesting!
Why do you think this is a PS?We discussed this picture in my SLS group and one of the members (largest Ferrari collector in Germany) was saying that it is apparently a Photoshop.
Tell him he's wrong.
We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
Jan 25, 2018 6:09:52 PM
Whoopsy:Since Ferrari had been doing silly names lately, my guess would be the 488 SuperSpecial! Inline with the SuperFast
60's Ferraris are some of the coolest, dare I say swagtastic, things in the world and were owned by royalty and the most interesting celebrities in world.They had names like the 410 and then later 500 SuperFast. Ergo that means that the 812 SuperFast which harkens back to the day of the ultra cool, swagtastic Ferraris of yesteryear is not a silly name but an epically cool one.
Past-President, Porsche Club of America - Upper Canada Region
Jan 26, 2018 1:12:45 AM
Mithras:Whoopsy:60's Ferraris are some of the coolest, dare I say swagtastic, things in the world and were owned by royalty and the most interesting celebrities in world.They had names like the 410 and then later 500 SuperFast. Ergo that means that the 812 SuperFast which harkens back to the day of the ultra cool, swagtastic Ferraris of yesteryear is not a silly name but an epically cool one.
Jan 26, 2018 5:35:11 AM
Jan 27, 2018 6:11:15 PM
Jan 28, 2018 5:26:19 PM
Popped into a local dealer on Saturday and had a long chat and look around a 488. I have to say I was impressed - the salesman was very informed and obviously a petrolhead himself. I was also impressed by the car - lots of interesting small details and nice touches. The service package really makes it an interesting proposition.. Fully inclusive servicing for 7 years? wow. Even outside of that, the service costs they were quoting were very reasonable. Quite an eye-opener.
2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1
Jan 28, 2018 6:10:49 PM
DaveGordon:Popped into a local dealer on Saturday and had a long chat and look around a 488. I have to say I was impressed - the salesman was very informed and obviously a petrolhead himself. I was also impressed by the car - lots of interesting small details and nice touches. The service package really makes it an interesting proposition.. Fully inclusive servicing for 7 years? wow. Even outside of that, the service costs they were quoting were very reasonable. Quite an eye-opener.
The 7 year free service package is worth around 20k by itself. 7 yearly oil changes and a bigger service every 2 years.
One only realized the whole 20k value if one keep the car for 7 years though.
Jan 28, 2018 6:56:24 PM
I do like the gesture though. For people like me who can deal with Porsche ownership but are a bit wary about more exotic stuff like Ferrari, Lambo, Aston, McLaren - it does serve to de-risk things quite a bit Also speaks to their confidence in their product.
2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1
Jan 28, 2018 7:50:53 PM
DaveGordon:Popped into a local dealer on Saturday and had a long chat and look around a 488. I have to say I was impressed - the salesman was very informed and obviously a petrolhead himself. I was also impressed by the car - lots of interesting small details and nice touches. The service package really makes it an interesting proposition.. Fully inclusive servicing for 7 years? wow. Even outside of that, the service costs they were quoting were very reasonable. Quite an eye-opener.
it is a fantastic car. fast, comfy, great looking. rides like a bentley on the highway and liker the GT3 on the track::)))) beats everything by far PAG has to offer except the 918, certainly for a price (btw, in austria almost the same as the GT3RS 991.1).
Jan 28, 2018 8:00:52 PM
Jan 28, 2018 8:17:17 PM
DaveGordon:Thanks - I know you’re a fan
Before yesterday I was about 60/40, RS vs 570. Now I am interested in looking a little further into the 488.
the only disadvantage the 488 has (for me) is that it is really much wider that the GT3RS. but here the issue is which roads you drive and your garage. also, italian and french highway toll stations can be very tedious to pass (particularly the french ones).