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    22-Nov-2007 17:27:59

    KresoF1
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    BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    Hockenheim 1.14,3min

    Ring 8.05min

    Michelin Pilot Cup+ tires(19")
    280km/h limiter option

    22-Nov-2007 17:35:57

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    8:05 equiped with that new developed semi-slick and without the limiter it is not a great time.

    Thanks for the info.

    22-Nov-2007 17:38:08

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    Just for your info new C63 AMG also with 280km/h and 030Package and Corsa tires is slower on the Ring.

    22-Nov-2007 17:42:32

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    Just for your info new C63 AMG also with 280km/h and 030Package and Corsa tires is slower on the Ring.



    But the C63 is a 4dr saloon with automatic transmission and it's a Merc.

    22-Nov-2007 17:46:01

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    Thanks Kreso!

    22-Nov-2007 17:48:50

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    Quote:
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    Hockenheim 1.14,3min

    Ring 8.05min





    Funny - exactly the same laptimes as the 997S (-20mm/LSD) on normal tires..

    22-Nov-2007 17:50:41

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    Quote:
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    Hockenheim 1.14,3min

    Ring 8.05min





    Funny - exactly the same laptimes as the 997S (-20mm/LSD) on normal tires..



    True. BTW, do you want to know R8 time with Magnetic Ride?

    22-Nov-2007 17:53:40

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    8:05 equiped with that new developed semi-slick and without the limiter it is not a great time.

    Thanks for the info.



    I beg to differ. The old M3 did it in 8:22.

    Yes, tires make a difference, but 8:05 puts it with the R8/C2S etc. Very good for a 4 seater.

    I do question their tire selection - as I did for their 997tt test. What tires were used for SA's RS4 test (8:09)?

    22-Nov-2007 17:57:03

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    RS4 achived 8.09min with Pirelli Corsas and Sport Suspension +(option in Europe).

    22-Nov-2007 18:00:41

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    what did SportAuto say about this result? What is their opinion?

    22-Nov-2007 18:01:35

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    Is not a great time....

    22-Nov-2007 18:04:40

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    True. BTW, do you want to know R8 time with Magnetic Ride?



    Don't tease again, Kreso - just spill the beans. You will feel better afterwards

    22-Nov-2007 18:12:34

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    Quote:
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    True. BTW, do you want to know R8 time with Magnetic Ride?



    Don't tease again, Kreso - just spill the beans. You will feel better afterwards



    8.00min and 7.58min, one version is R-Tronic, other manual... Guess which one is faster?

    22-Nov-2007 18:14:21

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    what did SportAuto say about this result? What is their opinion?



    In general-Horst is pretty pleased with new M3. He was pretty impressed with M3 engine...

    22-Nov-2007 18:18:22

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    Oh, Doettinger Hoehe top speed for new M3 is very impressive indeed-266km/h...

    As a point of reference 997CS(-20mm/LSD, PCCBs) top speed on the same spot is 259km/h and that means...

    22-Nov-2007 18:22:17

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    8.00min and 7.58min, one version is R-Tronic, other manual... Guess which one is faster?



    Thanks Kreso Being a manual guy myself my bet is obvious Though with a tiny 2 sec gap it's only an academic advantage...

    22-Nov-2007 18:26:02

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    Your bet is the right one!

    There is another interesting thing-R8 is the second car that is faster on the Ring(997 Turbo MY08 is the first one) after some small setup(suspension) changes... Development little bit too fast in both cases?

    22-Nov-2007 18:26:46

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    Quote:
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    Quote:
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    True. BTW, do you want to know R8 time with Magnetic Ride?



    Don't tease again, Kreso - just spill the beans. You will feel better afterwards



    8.00min and 7.58min, one version is R-Tronic, other manual... Guess which one is faster?



    HVS times?

    22-Nov-2007 18:31:59

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    Yes. They will be published in March or April issue next year...

    22-Nov-2007 18:33:56

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    8.00min and 7.58min, one version is R-Tronic, other manual... Guess which one is faster?



    AUTOMOVIL, spanish magazine times:

    R8 Manual 1'11'03
    R8 R-tronic1'11'47
    M3 E92 Manual 1'12'36

    22-Nov-2007 18:34:07

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    .. Development little bit too fast in both cases?



    I'm often under the impression that those who buy early production cars of a new model should be paid for their work as Beta-testers

    22-Nov-2007 18:36:32

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    8.00min and 7.58min, one version is R-Tronic, other manual... Guess which one is faster?



    AUTOMOVIL, spanish magazine times:

    R8 Manual 1'11'03
    R8 R-tronic1'11'47
    M3 E92 Manual 1'12'36



    Thanks for those numbers! So, it is confirmed from two magazines R8 is indeed faster as manual...

    22-Nov-2007 18:37:40

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    Quote:
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    .. Development little bit too fast in both cases?



    I'm often under the impression that those who buy early production cars of a new model should be paid for their work as Beta-testers



    What to say-again you are right on the target!

    22-Nov-2007 19:02:50

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    great news (for R8 ) !!!

    pzero Corsa or Hero tires I suppose....

    what about small changes on r8&turbo on suspension setup?camber?

    22-Nov-2007 19:14:15

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    Quote:
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    Oh, Doettinger Hoehe top speed for new M3 is very impressive indeed-266km/h...

    As a point of reference 997CS(-20mm/LSD, PCCBs) top speed on the same spot is 259km/h and that means...


    M3 E46 speed?

    22-Nov-2007 19:19:23

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    Quote:
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    Oh, Doettinger Hoehe top speed for new M3 is very impressive indeed-266km/h...

    As a point of reference 997CS(-20mm/LSD, PCCBs) top speed on the same spot is 259km/h and that means...


    M3 E46 speed?



    248km/h if a remember correctly. e46 M3 CSL did 255km/h at that same spot...

    22-Nov-2007 19:46:46

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    only 1 second behind the tested Audi R8. Im satisfied with 8.05 min. I beat my own prediction

    22-Nov-2007 19:50:15

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

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    Just for your info new C63 AMG also with 280km/h and 030Package and Corsa tires is slower on the Ring.



    C63 already tested by Sportauto?

    22-Nov-2007 19:55:20

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    C63 Supertest will be published early next year. My very good friend works for Motorpresse(company that publishes AMS and Sport Auto amoung others...)...

    22-Nov-2007 20:14:29

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    Re: BMW M3 Supertest in Sport Auto

    if C63 already been tested it cant be much slower. give or take 1-2 seconds. I assume it was tested with R-tires.
     
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