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    R8 versus 997S in topgear

    Sorry if repost. Youtube topgearfilm R8-997S

    Re: R8 versus 997S in topgear

    That was, as usual, quite entertaining.

    On the wet track, the R8's AWD provided an advantage. On a dry track, I suspect the 997S would have prevailed. Because of the wet track, a C4S would have been a better comparator.

    There have been many comparisons of these 2 cars, all of which seem to conclude that they are equal performers with the usual 'mid engine is more poised and balanced' and '911 is more involved' comments.

    Personally, I don't like the look of the R8, and those front LED's are just ridiculous. That aside, is this perhaps the Audi equivalent of the properly powered Cayman that I and others have longed for?

    The 997 MkII with direct injection should widen the gap.

    Re: R8 versus 997S in topgear

    R8's only problem is that it's a couple hundred pounds too heavy. But I've read many magazine tests and its handling seems unbeatable, wet or dry. If anyone can point me to a test where the R8 posts a slower lap time than any of its competitors, please show me.

    Straight-line, it can only do what 415 hp vs 3500 lbs can physically manage. But around a track with corners, its lap times are astonishing.

    From evo magazine (Bedford Autodrome West Circuit, 1.8 mi):

    CGT: 1:19:70
    Enzo: 1:21:30
    Superleggera: 1:21:80
    R8: 1:22:10
    Gallardo '06: 1:22:80
    F599: 1:23:10
    997 GT3: 1:23:40
    997 TT: 1:23:55
    996 RS: 1:23:85
    F430: 1:24:20
    997 Carrera S: 1:24:60
    996 TT: 1:26:00

    Re: R8 versus 997S in topgear

    not so much a fan of R8

    Sport Auto - Supertest Lap Times...

    *** Sport Auto - Supertest Lap Times ***

    (#) Make / Model / Hockenheim / Nordschleife

    (1) AC Schnitzer / Topster ** / 1.13,7 min / 8.16 min
    (2) AC Schnitzer / BMW CLS II / 1.13,4 min / 8.16 min
    (3) AC Schnitzer / Tension ** / 1.13,5 min / 7.57 min
    (4) Alfa Romeo / 156 GTA / 1.22,7 min / 8,51 min
    (5) Alpina / B10 3.2 / 1.21,3 min / 8.50 min
    (6) Alpina / Roadster S ** / 1.14,4 min / 8.15 min
    (7) AMG / SLK 230 K / 1.21,2 min / 9.07 min
    (8) Aston Martin / V12 Vanquish / 1.16,9 min / 8.17 min
    (9) Aston Martin / V8 Vantage ** / 1.14,8 min / 8.03 min
    (10) Aston Martin / V12 Vanquish / 1.16,9 min / 8.17 min
    (11) Aston Martin / DB7 GT / 1.19,0 min / 8.23 min
    (12) Aston Martin / DB7 Vantage / 1.21,1 min / 8.41 min
    (13) Aston Martin / DB9 / 1.17,7 min / 8.16 min
    (14) Audi / S4 Avant / 1.19,1 min / 8.29 min
    (15) Audi / TT 1.8 quattro / 1.19,9 min / 8.42 min
    (16) Audi / RS 4 ** / 1.15,4 min / 8.09 min
    (17) Audi / TT 2.0 TFSI / 1.18,9 min / 8.40 min
    (18) Audi / RS 4 / 1.18,2 min / 8.25 min
    (19) Audi / RS 6 / 1.17,6 min / 8.20 min
    (20) Audi / R8 / 1.12,7 min / 8.04 min
    (21) Audi / S3 / 1.20,9 min / 8.41 min
    (22) Audi / S4 / 1.21,1 min / 8.42 min
    (23) BMW / M6 ** / 1.14,4 min / 8.09 min
    (24) BMW / 335i Coupé / 1.17,8 min / 8.26 min
    (25) BMW / Alpina B3 33 / 1.19,3 min / 8.36 min
    (26) BMW / M Roadster / 1.18,2 min / 8.32 min
    (27) BMW / M3 / 1.16,3 min / 8.22 min
    (28) BMW / M3 CSL ** / 1.13,5 min / 7.50 min
    (29) BMW / M3 SMG / 1.18,4 min / 8.35 min
    (30) BMW / M5 / 1.17,6 min / 8.28 min
    (31) BMW / M5 / 1.16,5 min / 8.13 min
    (32) BMW / Z4 3.0 SMG / 1.18,1 min / 8.32 min
    (33) BMW / Z8 / 1.17,4 min / 8.18 min
    (34) BMW / M Coupé / 1.17,2 min / 8.22 min
    (35) BMW / Z3 Coupé 3.0i / 1.18,4 min / 8.34 min
    (36) BMW / Z4 3.0si Coupé / 1.17,8 min / 8.32 min
    (37) Brabus / Mercedes CLK 5.8 / 1.18,3 min / 8.38 min
    (38) Brabus / Mercedes C V8 Sportcoupé / 1.19,8 min / 8.35 min
    (39) Callaway / C12 Coupé / 1.15,0 min / 8.25 min
    (40) Chevrolet / Corvette / 1.18,2 min / 8.40 min
    (41) Chevrolet / Corvette-Jubiläumsmodell / 1.15,9 min / 8.18 min
    (42) Chrysler / Viper GTS / 1.15,9 min / 8.10 min
    (43) Corvette / C6 / 1.14,8 min / 8.15 min
    (44) Corvette / Z06 / 1.11,7 min / 7.49 min
    (45) Dodge / Viper SRT-10 / 1.14,3 min / 8.13 min
    (46) Donkervoort / D8 180R / 1.14,1 min / 8.10 min
    (47) Ferrari / 575M Maranello / 1.14,7 min / 8.05 min
    (48) Ferrari / 550 Maranello / 1.16,1 min / 8.07 min
    (49) Ferrari / F 430 F1 / 1.12,7 min / 7.55 min
    (50) Ferrari / Challenge Stradale ** / 1.13,0 min / 7.56 min
    (51) Ferrari / 360 Modena / 1.15,1 min / 8.09 min
    (52) Ferrari / F 355 / 1.15,3 min / 8.18 min
    (53) Ferrari / 599 GTB Fiorano / 1.12,0 min / 7.47 min
    (54) Ford / GT / 1.14,1 min / 7.52 min
    (55) Honda / NSX / 1.18,4 min / 8.38 min
    (56) Honda / Civic Type-R / 1.20,9 min / 8.47 min
    (57) Honda / S 2000 / 1.18,9 min / 8.39 min
    (58) Honda / NSX-R ** / 1.14,6 min / 8.09 min
    (59) Jaguar / XKR / 1.16,9 min / 8.25 min
    (60) Jaguar / XKR Coupé / 1.19,3 min / 8.36 min
    (61) Koenigsegg / CCR / 1.09,8 min / 7.34 min
    (62) Lamborghini / Gallardo Superleggera / 1.10,09 min / 7.46 min
    (63) Lamborghini / Diabolo GT / 1.14,4 min / 8.04 min
    (64) Lamborghini / Murcielago LP 640 ** / 1.11,8 min / 7.47 min
    (65) Lamborghini / Diabolo SV / 1.16,4 min / 8.09 min
    (66) Lamborghini / Gallardo / 1.11,8 min / 7.52 min
    (67) Lamborghini / Murciélago / 1.12,0 min / 7.50 min
    (68) Lotec / Porsche 911 Turbo / 1.12,3 min / 7.57 min
    (69) Lotus / Exige ** / 1.16,5 min / 8.32 min
    (70) Lotus / Esprit Sport 350 / 1.15,3 min / 8.13 min
    (71) Lotus / Exige ** / 1.14,8 min / 8.42 min
    (72) Maserati / Gransport / 1.16,2 min / 8.18 min
    (73) Maserati / Coupé Cambiocorsa / 1.19,2 min / 8.30 min
    (74) Maserati 3200 GT / 3200 GT / 1.18,4 min / 8.37 min
    (75) Mercedes / SLK 32 AMG / 1.18,5 min / 8.26 min
    (76) Mercedes / CLK 55 AMG / 1.18,2 min / 8.29 min
    (77) Mercedes / CLK 430 / 1.20,8 min / 8.52 min
    (78) Mercedes / C 43 AMG / 1.19,5 min / 8.51 min
    (79) Mercedes / SL 500 / 1.19,7 min / 8.38 min
    (80) Mercedes / C 55 AMG / 1.18,6 min / 8.22 min
    (81) Mercedes / SL 55 AMG / 1.15,9 min / 8.06 min
    (82) Mercedes / CLK DTM AMG ** / 1.12,5 min / 7.54 min
    (83) Mercedes / SLK 55 AMG / 1.17,1 min / 8.24 min
    (84) Mercedes / SLR McLaren / 1.13,5 min / 7.52 min
    (85) Mercedes / C 32 AMG / 1.20,6 min / 8.37 min
    (86) Mercedes / SL 65 AMG / 1.15,6 min / 8.14 min
    (87) Mini / Cooper S Works / 1.22,2 min / 8.55 min
    (88) Mitsubishi / Carisma GT Evo VII ** / 1.18,2 min / 8.25 min
    (89) Mitsubishi / Carisma GT Evo VI ** / 1.18,4 min / 8.25 min
    (90) Morgan / Aero 8 / 1.18,9 min / 8.39 min
    (91) Nissan / 350 Z / 1.18,8 min / 8.26 min
    (92) Opel / Speedster Turbo / 1.17,1 min / 8.34 min
    (93) Pagani / Zonda S / 1.11,8 min / 7.44 min
    (94) Pagani / Zonda F / 1.10,8 min / 7.33 min
    (95) Porsche / 911 Carrera Cabrio (993) / 1.18,3 min / 8.28 min
    (96) Porsche / 911 Carrera S (997) / 1.14,3 min / 8.05 min
    (97) Porsche / 911 GT2 (996) / 1.12,6 min / 7.46 min
    (98) Porsche / 911 GT3 Cup (996) ** / 1.09,1 min / 7.49 min
    (99) Porsche / 911 Turbo (993) / 1.14,1 min / 8.12 min
    (100) Porsche / Boxster (986) / 1.19,4 min / 8.36 min
    (101) Porsche / 911 Carrera (993) / 1.18,3 min / 8.28 min
    (102) Porsche / 911 Carrera (996) / 1.17,1 min / 8.17 min
    (103) Porsche / Boxster S (986) / 1.18,3 min / 8.32 min
    (104) Porsche / Boxster S (987) / 1.16,2 min / 8.23 min
    (105) Porsche / Carrera GT / 1.08,6 min / 7.32 min
    (106) Porsche / 911 GT3 (996) / 1.14,9 min / 8.03 min
    (107) Porsche / 911 Carrera 4 (996) / 1.16,6 min / 8.23 min
    (108) Porsche / 911 Turbo (997) / 1.11,9 min / 7.54 min
    (109) Porsche / 911 Turbo Werkstuning (993) / 1.14,3 min / 8.12 min
    (110) Porsche / 911 GT3 RS (997) ** / 1.11,1 min / 7.48 min
    (111) Porsche / 911 GT3 RS (996) ** / 1.11,8 min / 7.47 min
    (112) Porsche / 911 Carrera (996) / 1.15,9 min / 8.17 min
    (113) Porsche / Cayman S / 1.15,9 min / 8.25 min
    (114) Porsche / 911 GT3 (997) ** / 1.11,7 min / 7.48 min
    (115) Porsche / Boxster (986) / 1.19,3 min / 8.54 min
    (116) Porsche / 911 GT3 (996) / 1.13,2 min / 7.54 min
    (117) Porsche / 911 Turbo (996) / 1.14,6 min / 7.56 min
    (118) Renault / Mégane Trophy / 1.18,8 min / 8.38 min
    (119) Renault / Clio Sport V6 / 1.20,2 min / 8.49 min
    (120) Subaru / Impreza GT Turbo / 1.19,4 min / 8.37 min
    (121) Subaru / Impreza WRX STi ** / 1.17,9 min / 8.24 min
    (122) TechArt / Porsche GT Street / 1.12,3 min / 7.43 min
    (123) VW / Golf GTI / 1.21,8 min / 8.53 min
    (124) VW / Golf R32 / 1.20,3 min / 8.49 min
    (125) VW / Golf GTI / 1.22,9 min / 8.54 min
    (126) VW / Golf R32 / 1.20,7 min / 8.37 min
    (127) VW / Golf V6 4 Motion / 1.22,9 min / 9.09 min

    ** with sports tyres

     
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