Tesla's battery pack is not designed for continuous high current draw, like say in a 918 or basically any other Porsche hybrids. That's why it overheats. There simply isn't enough cooling for the batteries.
It is shall we say, a one hit wonder, it can do an amazing 1/4 run, then need some time to cool down before doing another amazing run. Good enough, as Friday night drag strip runs doesn't allow people to do back to back, so after a run owners have at least 30 mins wait, cool down period, before another.
Simply a design philosophy, Tesla is not designed as a performance car, even when Elon billed it as one, that it can put up amazing straight line performance number once in a while. But the general public only cares for those headline grabbing numbers. They won't bother with the rest.
Straight line drag is also an American thing, all they care, so Tesla plays into those hands perfectly.
If my memory serves me correctly, a Model S with performance tires will do 0.89g lateral, quite a bit less than my Cayenne on truck tires. A SUV actual out handles a sedan that's billed with a REALLY LOW Cg.
Seriously, who cares? To me these exercises are exactly the same vein as taking a GT3 RS on semi slick to a track covered in snow. It wasn’t designed and build to do that. Heck I don’t even think I have ever floored my 510hp RRS... This edgy group here is a tiny minority in the real world.
Dec 16, 2017 12:19:52 AM
BiTurbo:
An overweight softroader! Really surprised that the traction is so weak in off-road conditions, allowing the open diff to transfer torque to the wheel with the least amount of traction. Axle articulation is a joke too. Convinced that Audi’s off-road modes will over significantly greater performance when their EV SUV is unveiled soon.
BiTurbo:
About par for "off-roading" for a minivan.
Model X IS. a minivan. Just because Elon called his minivan a SUV doesn't make it a SUV, nor a crossover.
Flat cabin floor with low ground clearance, that's a perfect description for a minivan.
And yes, there are minivans with AWD. Toyota Sienna. So even that bit doesn't qualify the Model X as a SUV.
Dec 16, 2017 3:29:24 PM
It is not just a minivan, it is the coolest minivan available today. I really don't like minivans and would never rent one, let alone buying one but for the X I will make an exception. The only problem, its too expensive for a minivan that is only good for transporting people from point to point. Thats is not 100K+ cars are made for.
AP911:It is not just a minivan, it is the coolest minivan available today. I really don't like minivans and would never rent one, let alone buying one but for the X I will make an exception. The only problem, its too expensive for a minivan that is only good for transporting people from point to point. Thats is not 100K+ cars are made for.
There are no cool minivans. Period. 🤨
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
RC:AP911:It is not just a minivan, it is the coolest minivan available today. I really don't like minivans and would never rent one, let alone buying one but for the X I will make an exception. The only problem, its too expensive for a minivan that is only good for transporting people from point to point. Thats is not 100K+ cars are made for.
There are no cool minivans. Period. 🤨
Hmm no. The Model X is pretty cool, quite a few think it is.
Turn the clock back 100 years or so, a Model X will be a major circus draw! It can drive itself, it can park itself, it got trick doors, come own, you have to agree that's more exciting than seeing the elephant man.
Whoopsy:...........Turn the clock back 100 years or so, a Model X will be a major circus draw! It can drive itself, it can park itself, it got trick doors, come own, you have to agree that's more exciting than seeing the elephant man.
I wonder how many clowns it can hold?
Dec 17, 2017 5:19:38 PM
RC:AP911:It is not just a minivan, it is the coolest minivan available today. I really don't like minivans and would never rent one, let alone buying one but for the X I will make an exception. The only problem, its too expensive for a minivan that is only good for transporting people from point to point. Thats is not 100K+ cars are made for.
There are no cool minivans. Period. 🤨
Thats why the X is not a Minivan
The model X is almost perfect.
Stretch the cabin a bit more for 3 row of seats for full size adults.Also extra leg room for 2nd row.
Add a bit more truck space behind the 3rd row. That also means the rear hatch needs to be more vertical.
Make sure the seats can be fold flat or removable for 4x8.
A/C plugs, 12V outlets everywhere. Giant cup holders too.
Flip down entertainment screens for 2nd row and 3rd row.
After all that, it will be perfect!
Whoopsy:The model X is almost perfect.
Stretch the cabin a bit more for 3 row of seats for full size adults.Also extra leg room for 2nd row.
Add a bit more truck space behind the 3rd row. That also means the rear hatch needs to be more vertical.
Make sure the seats can be fold flat or removable for 4x8.
A/C plugs, 12V outlets everywhere. Giant cup holders too.
Flip down entertainment screens for 2nd row and 3rd row.
After all that, it will be perfect!
Sounds like you are describing the new Tesla truck
Whoopsy:The model X is almost perfect.
Stretch the cabin a bit more for 3 row of seats for full size adults.Also extra leg room for 2nd row.
Add a bit more truck space behind the 3rd row. That also means the rear hatch needs to be more vertical.
Make sure the seats can be fold flat or removable for 4x8.
A/C plugs, 12V outlets everywhere. Giant cup holders too.
Flip down entertainment screens for 2nd row and 3rd row.
After all that, it will be perfect!
Also change the crappy design...
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
MKSGR:Whoopsy:The model X is almost perfect.
Stretch the cabin a bit more for 3 row of seats for full size adults.Also extra leg room for 2nd row.
Add a bit more truck space behind the 3rd row. That also means the rear hatch needs to be more vertical.
Make sure the seats can be fold flat or removable for 4x8.
A/C plugs, 12V outlets everywhere. Giant cup holders too.
Flip down entertainment screens for 2nd row and 3rd row.
After all that, it will be perfect!
Sounds like you are describing the new Tesla truck
I am pretty sure he does...
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
MKSGR:Whoopsy:The model X is almost perfect.
Stretch the cabin a bit more for 3 row of seats for full size adults.Also extra leg room for 2nd row.
Add a bit more truck space behind the 3rd row. That also means the rear hatch needs to be more vertical.
Make sure the seats can be fold flat or removable for 4x8.
A/C plugs, 12V outlets everywhere. Giant cup holders too.
Flip down entertainment screens for 2nd row and 3rd row.
After all that, it will be perfect!
Sounds like you are describing the new Tesla truck
More like the perfect mini van
Tesla made the right decision, but it share a lot of similarities with minivans. It does look like a minivan and if you sit in one, especially in the back, you would feel that you are sitting in a minivan. It has the spaciousness as a minivan, they just decided to go with the minivan sportback design. This is a new category that only the X is in.
AP911:Tesla made the right decision, but it share a lot of similarities with minivans. It does look like a minivan and if you sit in one, especially in the back, you would feel that you are sitting in a minivan. It has the spaciousness as a minivan, they just decided to go with the minivan sportback design. This is a new category that only the X is in.
GM did that many years ago with the Aztec
SciFrog:Van = cheap and uncool and RWD
SUV = expensive and cool and AWD
Why would Tesla call their people mover that is expensive, has AWD and doesn’t look like a minivan a minivan?
Toyota Sienna has had AWD for the longest time.
Plus, Mercedes has the really cool really expensive minivan in Europe, The V-class.
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Dec 20, 2017 9:51:49 PM
Whoopsy:SciFrog:Van = cheap and uncool and RWD
SUV = expensive and cool and AWD
Why would Tesla call their people mover that is expensive, has AWD and doesn’t look like a minivan a minivan?
Toyota Sienna has had AWD for the longest time.
Plus, Mercedes has the really cool really expensive minivan in Europe, The V-class.
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Even the Chrysler Town and Country has all-wheel drive and I believe that Ford offered such an equipped mini-van back in the 1990s. Tesla, leading once again from behind...
Nice video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=675&v=C8CgeT_qpB0
It shows you why you cannot use a Tesla in Germany... Just look at 11:00, for example...
If you use a Tesla a bit the system cuts back power, the batteries get too hot etc. I would call it crap.