Crown

Board: Other Sports Cars Language: English Region: Worldwide Share/Save/Bookmark Close

Forum - Thread

    Oct 9, 2007 10:25:06 PM

    amir sarmad
    Veteran
    amir sarmad
    Loc: dubai, UAE
    Posts: 909, Gallery
    Registered on: Mar 30, 2005

    pick your evil jap!

    ok guys. The wait is finally over ( for me at least). Subu and Mitsu have finally released images and specs of their new rally-road cras. The STI and EVOX. The Question is what would you pick. I am definitely going to pick one (stick shift) and learn how to drive cars properly on the track without worrying too much about repair costs and expensive consumables. Every other car ive had has either had an smg or triptronic or auto gearbox.

    The STI:
    * (308PS) 304hp/6400rpm; (43kgm) 311lb-ft/4400rpm
    * (mm) 4415 x 1795 x 1475
    * (inch) 173.8 x 70.7 x 58.1
    * weight 1480kg/3263lb (1470kg/3241lb for 17" and 18" BBS option)


    The EVOX:
    276HP/6500rpm; 311lb-ft/3500rpm
    * RS 5M/T 1420kg (3131lb) 11.3LB/HP
    * GSR 5M/T 1520kg (3351lb) 12.1LB/HP
    * GSR TC-SST 1540kg (3395lb) 12.3LB/HP


    Oct 9, 2007 10:51:13 PM

    dhayek Offline
    Rennteam Master
    dhayek
    Loc: Beirut , Lebanon
    Posts: 3839, Gallery
    Registered on: Jul 7, 2004
    Reply to: amir sarmad

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    amir how can you even think about it?? the sti is FUGLY, it is designed by stevie wonder! what were they thinking??? OTOH the evo X is the best looking evo ever,looks good

    Oct 9, 2007 11:12:47 PM

    Moogle
    Rennteam Master
    Moogle
    Loc: Bay Area , United States
    Posts: 5019, Gallery
    Registered on: Aug 9, 2003
    Reply to: dhayek

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    Where is the Sedan of the STI? The Estate/Wagons are always ugly! Evo looks great though.

    Oct 9, 2007 11:15:40 PM

    The Groom
    Expert
    The Groom
    Loc: EU
    Posts: 1779, Gallery
    Registered on: Jan 23, 2005
    Reply to: dhayek

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    The Impreza is so fugly that even Chris Bangle wouldn't want to be caught dead in it. Whereas a white Evo X... WANT!

    By the way, don't assume the Evo is any less powerful. Almost all Japanese performance cars claim to have only 280 PS, but actually have more. I reckon there's some kind of legal or tax restriction on advertising more than that there.

    Oct 9, 2007 11:21:48 PM

    Dr. Phil Offline
    Rennteam Master
    Dr. Phil
    Loc: Denmark , Denmark
    Posts: 5884, Gallery
    Registered on: Nov 30, 2004
    Reply to: Moogle

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    Amir, youre looking for a track car, so I will keep a straight diplomatic face, and not comment on the apparent 100% ugliness of these ricers.
    There, that was pretty neutral, wasnt it?
    Anyways, I know from a friend of mine who owns a late model Evo 8 (or 9 or whatever number they are at) that it's heavy and has such a neutral balance, that it has a tendency of always skids on all 4 wheels when pushed. This makes the car predictable ut boring, according to him.
    Ppl with Subarus like their nimble steering and balance - and live with the sucky design because of its great handling-to-price ratio.

    Both cars look like a mistake dug out from the trashcan of Hyundai's design studio, so please, whatever u pick please keep it on the track, so u wont get harrassed on public roads

    Oct 10, 2007 3:04:05 AM

    Modrocket_stereo
    Veteran
    Modrocket_stereo
    Loc: Chicago
    Posts: 1178, Gallery
    Registered on: Mar 8, 2003
    Reply to: Dr. Phil

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    I am part Japanese and I do not care to much for either, which I will not pick the 'I hate japanese cars cuz im an egocentric racist!' option. Both of them should go on a serious diet.

    Oct 10, 2007 4:43:06 AM

    ha Offline
    Expert
    ha
    Loc: Riyadh , Saudi Arabia
    Posts: 1695, Gallery
    Registered on: Nov 20, 2003
    Reply to: Modrocket_stereo

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    EVO all the way!

    Oct 10, 2007 4:58:04 AM

    U Boat Commander
    Veteran
    U Boat Commander
    Loc: Los Angeles, CA
    Posts: 1250, Gallery
    Registered on: May 8, 2004
    Reply to: ha

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    Can I pick Porsche? These cars are all butt fugly.

    Oct 10, 2007 5:05:15 AM

    Moogle
    Rennteam Master
    Moogle
    Loc: Bay Area , United States
    Posts: 5019, Gallery
    Registered on: Aug 9, 2003
    Reply to: U Boat Commander

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    Trackday car, gimme a Elise, about the same price!

    Oct 10, 2007 5:47:35 AM

    JimFlat6
    Rennteam VIP
    JimFlat6
    Loc: Cave , United States
    Posts: 8633, Gallery
    Registered on: Jul 25, 2004
    Reply to: Moogle

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    The Evo is too tall. The Subaru is a Subaru. Two DQ's.

    If you are shopping for Nippon Autoware a Honda S2000 is almost the same price.

    Oct 10, 2007 7:15:02 AM

    BC
    Rennteam Pro
    BC
    Loc: Cape Town , South Africa
    Posts: 2586, Gallery
    Registered on: May 19, 2005
    Reply to: JimFlat6

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    The Scoobies interior is so cool and looks like good quality, which is awesome cause I think thats usually where they let themselves down...

    I'd take the Evo anytime though!!!

    Oct 10, 2007 8:19:22 AM

    moto Offline
    Senior
    moto
    Loc: London, UK
    Posts: 608, Gallery
    Registered on: Jul 8, 2005
    Reply to: dhayek

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    Quote:
    dhayek said:
    amir how can you even think about it?? the sti is FUGLY, it is designed by stevie wonder!



    lol +1

    Oct 10, 2007 8:41:05 AM

    nick1
    Senior
    nick1
    Loc: austria
    Posts: 668, Gallery
    Registered on: Nov 23, 2004
    Reply to: moto

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    optically both are "different" but interesting.kinda hard after a porsche....
    driving wise: you gotta drive them back to back.

    Oct 10, 2007 11:20:25 PM

    Pentium Offline
    Rennteam Master
    Pentium
    Loc: Earth , Romania
    Posts: 3054, Gallery
    Registered on: Apr 27, 2003
    Reply to: amir sarmad

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    For road usage I would go with the Mitsu Evo.
    For track usage I would pick a different type of car.

    I was a fan of Subaru for a long time but I've seen the new car in person and it's horrible!

    Oct 10, 2007 11:23:09 PM

    Dr. Phil Offline
    Rennteam Master
    Dr. Phil
    Loc: Denmark , Denmark
    Posts: 5884, Gallery
    Registered on: Nov 30, 2004
    Reply to: Pentium

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    Lotus Exige or Elise is the way to go for a real trackcar - or even better and much cheaper: A Lotus 7.

    Oct 11, 2007 6:27:38 AM

    WAY
    Rennteam Master
    WAY
    Loc: Melbourne, Australia
    Posts: 3344, Gallery
    Registered on: May 11, 2004
    Reply to: Dr. Phil

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    Only problem with Elise/Exige is that I am not sure if they are safe in an accident on the track. Whereas with the STI I think you are pretty safe especially if you put a roll cage in.

    Oct 11, 2007 12:07:58 PM

    GaussM
    Rennteam Moderator
    Gauss
    Loc: Luxembourg , Luxembourg
    Posts: 5822, Gallery
    Registered on: Jun 3, 2003
    Reply to: WAY

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    Quote:
    WAY said:
    Only problem with Elise/Exige is that I am not sure if they are safe in an accident on the track. Whereas with the STI I think you are pretty safe especially if you put a roll cage in.



    of course they are safe...to a certain limit that is

    Oct 11, 2007 1:05:51 PM

    throt
    Rennteam VIP
    throt
    Loc: London , United Kingdom
    Posts: 6078, Gallery
    Registered on: May 9, 2005
    Reply to: GaussM

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    From the pics , I say the STI . The Mits looks like a Honda Accord ....

    Congrats on whatever decision , bud ....

    Oct 11, 2007 1:47:31 PM

    Wild-Speed
    Senior
    Wild-Speed
    Loc: Netherlands , Netherlands
    Posts: 730, Gallery
    Registered on: Jun 7, 2004
    Reply to: throt

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    I agree with you throt rastaman

    never thought I would like the STi better than the EVO judging from the concept models....

    Oct 11, 2007 1:51:38 PM

    Wild-Speed
    Senior
    Wild-Speed
    Loc: Netherlands , Netherlands
    Posts: 730, Gallery
    Registered on: Jun 7, 2004
    Reply to: Wild-Speed

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    by the way the Impreza makes me think about the great Lancia Delta HF Integrale..widebodied fourwheeldrive hatchbacks

    Oct 11, 2007 2:03:02 PM

    ed_moree
    Rennteam Pro
    ed_moree
    Loc: spain , China
    Posts: 2407, Gallery
    Registered on: Mar 15, 2005
    Reply to: amir sarmad

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    Amir, I ahve voted for "I hate japanese cars cuz im an egocentric racist" because I liked this better than both the cars. so you will have to make some numbers with the votes.....
    But in any case take the EVO, man. The subaru is really really hoplessly ugly!!!! But in the end both will go quite fast so depends on the price and the one you like most.

    Oct 11, 2007 2:23:35 PM

    Rossi
    Rennteam VIP
    Rossi
    Loc: Home , Germany
    Posts: 12680, Gallery
    Registered on: Apr 11, 2002
    Reply to: ed_moree

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    Quote:
    ed_moree said:
    The subaru is really really hoplessly ugly!!!!



    Hasn't that always been the case?

    The WRX STi has never been an elegant car, but that did its success no harm.

    Oct 11, 2007 3:48:15 PM

    janus Offline
    Veteran
    janus
    Loc: Croatia
    Posts: 1067, Gallery
    Registered on: Jul 13, 2004
    Reply to: Wild-Speed

    Re: pick your evil jap!

    Evo is seat Cordoba all the way in the back...
    Even the wheels remid me of it...
    DAMN shame...
     
    Edit

    Forum

    1. All 

    Boards

     
    Board Subject Last post Rating Views Replies
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA (Part II) 4/17/24 7:16 AM
    GnilM     		761730 1798
    Porsche Sticky Welcome to Rennteam: Cars and Coffee... (photos) 4/7/24 11:48 AM
    Boxster Coupe GTS     		435005 565
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: Cayman GT4 RS (2021) 5/12/23 12:11 PM
    W8MM     		260315 288
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: Porsche 911 (992) GT3 RS - 2022 3/12/24 8:28 AM
    DJM48     		257406 323
    Porsche Sticky The new Macan: the first all-electric SUV from Porsche 1/30/24 9:18 AM
    RCA     		80875 45
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: Taycan 2024 Facelift 3/15/24 1:23 PM
    CGX car nut     		5318 50
    Porsche The moment I've been waiting for... 2/1/24 7:01 PM
    Pilot
     
     
     
     
     
    		 871820 1364
    Porsche 992 GT3 7/23/23 7:01 PM
    Grant     		807185 3868
    Porsche Welcome to the new Taycan Forum! 2/10/24 4:43 PM
    nberry     		386865 1526
    Porsche GT4RS 4/17/24 8:53 PM
    GaussM     		385072 1452
    Others Tesla 2 the new thread 12/13/23 2:48 PM
    CGX car nut     		368049 2401
    Porsche Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design 7/3/23 12:30 PM
    Porker     		366060 797
    Ferrari Ferrari 812 Superfast 4/21/23 8:09 AM
    the-missile     		288833 550
    Porsche Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour 4/11/24 12:32 PM
    Ferdie     		285982 668
    Porsche Collected my 997 GTS today 10/19/23 7:06 PM
    CGX car nut
     
     
     
     
     
    		 259049 812
    Lambo Huracán EVO STO 7/30/23 6:59 PM
    mcdelaug     		237137 346
    Lotus Lotus Emira 6/25/23 2:53 PM
    Enmanuel     		225205 101
    Others Corvette C8 10/16/23 3:24 PM
    Enmanuel     		219788 488
    Others Gordon Murray - T.50 11/22/23 10:27 AM
    mcdelaug     		166926 387
    Porsche Back to basics - 996 GT3 RS 6/11/23 5:13 PM
    CGX car nut     		138875 144
    BMW M 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now 12/29/23 9:04 AM
    RCA     		115639 303
    Motor Sp. 2023 Formula One 12/19/23 5:38 AM
    WhoopsyM     		107442 685
    Others Valkyrie final design? 4/28/23 2:45 AM
    Rossi     		99310 219
    Porsche 2022 992 Safari Model 3/7/24 4:22 PM
    WhoopsyM     		83606 239
    AMG Mercedes-Benz W124 500E aka Porsche typ 2758 2/23/24 10:03 PM
    blueflame     		74895 297
    Porsche 992 GT3 RS 3/3/24 7:22 PM
    WhoopsyM     		53165 314
    Motor Sp. Porsche 963 3/16/24 9:27 PM
    WhoopsyM     		24689 237
    Ferrari Ferrari 296 GTB (830PS, Hybrid V6) 1/21/24 4:29 PM
    GT-Boy     		20949 103
    BMW M 2022 BMW M5 CS 4/8/24 1:43 PM
    Ferdie     		19220 140
    AMG G63 sold out 9/15/23 7:38 PM
    Nico997     		16467 120
    129 items found, displaying 1 to 30.