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Oct 9, 2007 10:22:51 PM

carreraman: Co-Pilot; Loc: Miami, FL; Posts: 163, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 14, 2005; Reply to: CarlosF

Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

Just came from my P Dealer (was there on other business) and was told that they are taking orders for 2008 997's until July 2008. He showed me the allocations and what had been ordered. Sure enough there it was. They are backed up a good four months.

I don't think that facelift will be here until next fall. Why would they be allocated the cars through July otherwise? Wouldn't Porsche need a stop in production to retool for any changes the facelift would bring?

Just sharing the info...

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Oct 10, 2007 4:28:51 PM

devo: Veteran; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 1107, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 31, 2006; Reply to: carreraman

Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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carreraman said:
Just came from my P Dealer (was there on other business) and was told that they are taking orders for 2008 997's until July 2008. He showed me the allocations and what had been ordered. Sure enough there it was. They are backed up a good four months.

I don't think that facelift will be here until next fall. Why would they be allocated the cars through July otherwise? Wouldn't Porsche need a stop in production to retool for any changes the facelift would bring?

Just sharing the info...

I would have to agree with this. We'll likely see the first of the FL models Sept. '08 at the earliest.

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Oct 11, 2007 12:41:56 AM

KMM: Expert; Loc: Boston, MA , United States; Posts: 1745, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 5, 2004; Reply to: devo

Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

Heard the same story from my dealer re Boxster. Allocation for rest of year already at hand...
I was hoping the facelifted Boxster would be here in the Spring; I guess not.

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Oct 11, 2007 5:58:01 AM

U Boat Commander: Veteran; Loc: Los Angeles, CA; Posts: 1250, Gallery; Registered on: May 8, 2004; Reply to: KMM

Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

My prediction is that the first Mk IIs will be MY '09, which means Sept '08 delivery.

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Oct 11, 2007 4:28:11 PM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002; Reply to: carreraman

Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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carreraman said:
Wouldn't Porsche need a stop in production to retool for any changes the facelift would bring?

I would say Porsche is probably one of fewest, if not the only, manufacturer that their retooling is nothing major at all. Look at the facelift the only thing that will be different is the rear lights and front fog lights which is put in place by hand, hence no major retooling of the assembly line.

The only major retooling they have to do is when they change the model a la 996, 997....

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Oct 18, 2007 3:08:12 AM

Dan L: Expert; Loc: Santa Barbara, CA , United States; Posts: 1957, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 2, 2006; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

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They're going to have to do a lot more than this to get me to switch! I think the originals are beautiful.

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Oct 20, 2007 7:18:06 AM

berfes: Pilot; Loc: new york , United States; Posts: 328, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 28, 2006; Reply to: Dan L

Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

No pics of the new interior yet?. . . . .

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Oct 21, 2007 5:13:10 AM

DavidSF: Senior; Loc:; Posts: 525, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 7, 2003; Reply to: Dan L

Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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Dan L said:
They're going to have to do a lot more than this to get me to switch! I think the originals are beautiful.

WOW- what color is that? Maybe it's also the angle, but that's the nicest looking 911 I've seen lately.

David

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Oct 24, 2007 5:59:02 AM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14171, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: DavidSF

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DavidSF said:
[WOW- what color is that? Maybe it's also the angle, but that's the nicest looking 911 I've seen lately.

David

I think exactly the same! Dan has such good taste

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Oct 24, 2007 3:17:43 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: DavidSF

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DavidSF said:WOW- what color is that? Maybe it's also the angle, but that's the nicest looking 911 I've seen lately.

David

His signature says Torquoise - very nice indeed

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Oct 24, 2007 5:27:25 PM

The Groom: Expert; Loc: EU; Posts: 1779, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 23, 2005; Reply to: Grant

Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

Dan L's Turquoise car looks awesome. It's a bit too daring for my taste, though.

I recently saw a pristine Turquoise Metallic 993 (color code is K1/25D) and it looks even better IMHO.

More pics
and outside

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Oct 29, 2007 7:37:53 PM

xyzx: Newbie; Loc: IL, US; Posts: 35, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 12, 2006; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

how much would be the face-lift price increase (over the 2008 price)? The usual 2-3%?

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Oct 29, 2007 7:44:27 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: xyzx

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xyzx said:
how much would be the face-lift price increase (over the 2008 price)? The usual 2-3%?

The increase will be smaller than the depreciation suffered by the pre-facelift cars the moment the new model is announced

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Oct 29, 2007 11:37:54 PM

GreggT: Junior; Loc:; Posts: 101, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 9, 2002; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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Ron (Houston) said:

I would say Porsche is probably one of fewest, if not the only, manufacturer that their retooling is nothing major at all. Look at the facelift the only thing that will be different is the rear lights and front fog lights which is put in place by hand, hence no major retooling of the assembly line.

The only major retooling they have to do is when they change the model a la 996, 997....

Ditto that.....Porsche has been known to even make minor changes before the model year designation changes.

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Oct 30, 2007 2:39:54 PM

Marwan Arakji: Senior; Loc: Lebanon , Lebanon; Posts: 572, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 11, 2006; Reply to: GreggT

Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

I'm hoping for the face lifted C2S with X51 power to be around 400 bhp, with a PDK, giving a 0-60 around 4.4 sec... WOOZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Oct 31, 2007 12:05:44 AM

Liquidator: Newbie; Loc: Australia; Posts: 2, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 30, 2007; Reply to: Steven9x7

Re: HOT: Pictures from Facelift 997!!!!

Hi guys - this is my first post.
I ordered a GT3 last Saturday and expect to take delivery in Australia next March. Presumably this would indicate an early 08 build. Would you expect that this GT3 will incorporate the facelift or is this too early?
Best regards

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Oct 31, 2007 1:34:29 AM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: Liquidator

Re: HOT: Pictures from Facelift 997!!!!

My understanding is that there will be no more 997GT3's built after December 2007 for many months. The facelift GT3 MKII will appear as a Model Year 2009 (well after March 2008).

So, I think your car will be built by December and you may have the car before March (don't know how long the boat ride is from Germany to AUS). Otherwise, you will have a much longer wait for an 09...

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Oct 31, 2007 10:37:38 AM

Phoenix_911: Pilot; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 475, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: Liquidator

Re: HOT: Pictures from Facelift 997!!!!

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Liquidator said:
Hi guys - this is my first post.
I ordered a GT3 last Saturday and expect to take delivery in Australia next March. Presumably this would indicate an early 08 build. Would you expect that this GT3 will incorporate the facelift or is this too early?
Best regards

First of all, WELCOME

to our forum, Liquidator!
I hope you will have fun around here.

I'm pretty sure that your GT3 won't be a facelifted one, sorry

.
Greetings to downunder

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Nov 1, 2007 5:48:05 AM

Liquidator: Newbie; Loc: Australia; Posts: 2, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 30, 2007; Reply to: Phoenix_911

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Thank you for your kind welcome to this forum

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Nov 3, 2007 2:36:23 PM

berfes: Pilot; Loc: new york , United States; Posts: 328, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 28, 2006; Reply to: Liquidator

Re: HOT: Pictures from Facelift 997!!!!

Hey guys we need some pics of the 997facelift interior!. . . .

Someone could post it??

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Nov 6, 2007 1:30:12 PM

Phoenix_911: Pilot; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 475, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: Liquidator

Re: HOT: Pictures from Facelift 997!!!!

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Liquidator said:
Thank you for your kind welcome to this forum

You're always welcome!

Greetings

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Nov 8, 2007 11:22:03 AM

OCG: Junior; Loc: OC; Posts: 60, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 15, 2007; Reply to: Steven9x7

Re: HOT: Pictures from Facelift 997!!!!

Beautiful pics, but wheels look funky or is it me?

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Nov 11, 2007 4:20:02 PM

Turbo4ever: Senior; Loc: HK , Hong Kong; Posts: 723, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 13, 2007; Reply to: OCG

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anyone know Porsche usually gonna upgrade the interior too?

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Nov 12, 2007 8:31:33 PM

fredar: Newbie; Loc: Europe; Posts: 48, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2007; Reply to: Turbo4ever

Re: HOT: Pictures from Facelift 997!!!!

Talked to my dealer last week. He said Porsche AG is dead quiet on the 997 facelift matter and that it will happen from a day to another. Pressed to give me a good guess he thought the FL would be announced in the fall of 2008 as model year 2009. But he said it wasn't to be considered even as a qualified guess...

What I'd love to see in the FL, other than the exterior:

Chairs
I'd like to see Porsche doing some magic on the chairs in order to make them comfortable also for long-haul cruising. I currently have the Active Sport seats. They are great for inspired driving, but I find them stiff for longer journeys. Ventilated seats and the possibility to inflate them (or something) in order to make them softer would be great. Would keep by bum in better shape while travelling between tracks.

Audio
Please give us some kind of built-in iPod/MP3 connection!

Tiptronic
I am currently drving a manual car. It is fun etc, but I'd prefer an automatic with paddles. (Don't laugh. A vast majority of the F430's are bought with paddles...)

Cruise control
I miss the speed control options I've experienced in other cars. Such as being able to limit the speed instead of keeping it. For example I'd like to set maximum speed to 150 km/h and then trust the car not to go past that unless I floor it. As it is I only have the alarm sound to let me know. It goes off far to often

Security
For some reason more cars are equipped with Vehicle Tracking, but the solution is to expensive or even not available on the market. Think again and come up with a final solution that does not involve me being taken as hostage. Hi Porsche: Email me and I'll let you in on a solution that will make Porsche a car that no thief would ever want to touch

Range
If possible to make the car swallow 1-2 gallons more of fuel, please make it happen.

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Nov 13, 2007 3:47:28 AM

Le Chef: Veteran; Loc: Chicago , United States; Posts: 1059, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 3, 2003; Reply to: fredar

I want the 997.5 to be as phat as a Hummer

Enough of all this talk about sports cars! Let's hope it comes with big ol' chrome deuces, electric everything, ventilated massaging barca-loungers and a 1000W, 1000lb stereo system, with gold big gulp cup-holders. And please God let it do no more than 10 mpg so my Exxon shares stay high. Which means it must have a V8 and will outdrag an M3 and an SL65.

And while we're at it could someone PLEASE post pics of the interior of the new car - I'm tired of Berfes sounding like a broken record every 10 minutes asking the same question.

There! Nurse has come to give me my meds and tell me it's nap time. Goodnight!

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Nov 13, 2007 11:10:37 AM

Ilias_4s_cab: Newbie; Loc: GREECE; Posts: 14, Gallery; Registered on: May 25, 2007; Reply to: Le Chef

Re: I want the 997.5 to be as phat as a Hummer

Hello ,
Iam new in the forum before 1 week i order my new 997 4s cabrio and my dealer told me that in his computer the facelift will not come before september.
My car told me that wiil come in 3 months...

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Nov 13, 2007 12:57:35 PM

Phoenix_911: Pilot; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 475, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: fredar

Re: HOT: Pictures from Facelift 997!!!!

Quote:
fredar said:
Talked to my dealer last week. He said Porsche AG is dead quiet on the 997 facelift matter and that it will happen from a day to another. Pressed to give me a good guess he thought the FL would be announced in the fall of 2008 as model year 2009. But he said it wasn't to be considered even as a qualified guess...

What I'd love to see in the FL, other than the exterior:

Chairs
I'd like to see Porsche doing some magic on the chairs in order to make them comfortable also for long-haul cruising. I currently have the Active Sport seats. They are great for inspired driving, but I find them stiff for longer journeys. Ventilated seats and the possibility to inflate them (or something) in order to make them softer would be great. Would keep by bum in better shape while travelling between tracks.

Audio
Please give us some kind of built-in iPod/MP3 connection!

Tiptronic
I am currently drving a manual car. It is fun etc, but I'd prefer an automatic with paddles. (Don't laugh. A vast majority of the F430's are bought with paddles...)

Cruise control
I miss the speed control options I've experienced in other cars. Such as being able to limit the speed instead of keeping it. For example I'd like to set maximum speed to 150 km/h and then trust the car not to go past that unless I floor it. As it is I only have the alarm sound to let me know. It goes off far to often

Security
For some reason more cars are equipped with Vehicle Tracking, but the solution is to expensive or even not available on the market. Think again and come up with a final solution that does not involve me being taken as hostage. Hi Porsche: Email me and I'll let you in on a solution that will make Porsche a car that no thief would ever want to touch

Range
If possible to make the car swallow 1-2 gallons more of fuel, please make it happen.

Maybe the majority of you wishes will be introduced with the Panamera

. But please not with a 911 sportscar!

In a car magazine I've read a nice commercial presentation of PORSCHE: A pic of tha Porsche 550 Spyder with the following text: "Wie besiegte der 550 seine Gegner? - Mit Leichtigkeit!" translated (sorry for mistakes) "How did the 550 beat his opponents? - With lightness!"

Please don't misunderstand me, I do like all the helpful things, but the major point of a real sportscar is its weight!

But now please let's get back to the topic (please post pics or other infos of the facelift)... thanks!

:

Greetings

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Nov 13, 2007 4:45:32 PM

Le Chef: Veteran; Loc: Chicago , United States; Posts: 1059, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 3, 2003; Reply to: Phoenix_911

Precisely!

Quote:

Please don't misunderstand me, I do like all the helpful things, but the major point of a real sportscar is its weight!

But now please let's get back to the topic (please post pics or other infos of the facelift)... thanks! :

Greetings

Porsche would stop putting all this luxo-crap into its cars if people stop asking for it, and then wanting another 100hp to make them feel "adequate".

Frankly I wish Lotus engineers would take over at Porsche and start designing and building a truly innovative lightweight next generation 911. Let's hope they can take out a minimum of 250kg's, but preferably 500kg's.

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Nov 13, 2007 4:54:25 PM

TEE: Veteran; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 929, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 5, 2003; Reply to: Le Chef

Re: Precisely!

well the Elise gets havier from one version to the next and they need to keep adding power to compenstate for weigth...

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Nov 13, 2007 5:32:10 PM

Turbo4ever: Senior; Loc: HK , Hong Kong; Posts: 723, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 13, 2007; Reply to: TEE

Re: Precisely!

so ture!

lotus no longer producing a lightweight car.

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I want the 997.5 to be as phat as a Hummer

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