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    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    drbobr said:
    I am waiting for my 2008 which is being built as we speak. Will it have the new facelift?



    It won't. The facelift will most likely be 2009.

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    Facelift is March build 2008. Two OPC in UK have confirmed this to me. (I have deposits with both!)

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    Facelift is looking pretty good, I would say.

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    bridggar said:
    Facelift is March build 2008. Two OPC in UK have confirmed this to me. (I have deposits with both!)



    you have deposit with both ! how clever

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    Yup, Hatfield & East London. First to deliver gets the deal.

    Re: HOT: Pictures from Facelift 997!!!!

    Are you sure this is a facelifted model?
    Could it be someone who just made some body mods to his 997?
    The front looks like mine after fitting the Speedart 2-piece front lip spoiler. Also, where is the rear diffuser?
    How was it camouflaged?-it looks normal.

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    bridggar said:
    Yup, Hatfield & East London. First to deliver gets the deal.



    Mr Perry (Dealer Principal Hatfield) must be smiling to the bank

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    Only if he can deliver first, else I'll have my deposit back. Not quite sure what you're inferring

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    OK. So, when is the Frankfurt Auto Show?

    Because, that is the show we are all waiting for for correct.

    If Porsche is going to show a facelifted 911, that's where we will see it.

    Then we will finally know if it is coming out soon!

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    carreraman said:
    OK. So, when is the Frankfurt Auto Show?

    Because, that is the show we are all waiting for for correct.

    If Porsche is going to show a facelifted 911, that's where we will see it.

    Then we will finally know if it is coming out soon!



    Starting September 13...

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    better wait for the Salon de Automobile in Geneva 6.-16. March 2008!

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    personally, it doesn't make sense to me that porsche would show a revised 997 in september if they're hoping to sell current models through the fall and winter... my guess is that if they're going to come out with a 997 face-lift next spring as an "early" 2009 model it'll be shown late next winter or in spring of 2008.

    **
    perhaps we can get a sense by looking at when the Cayenne was officially shown at an autoshow, and when did they stop production of the then current model and when did it hit dealers?

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    I'd suggest the sales slide is already happening. All the more reason to ensure the new model is presented sooner rather than later.

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    Hello everybody!

    Does anybody got an idea, when the next 911-Generation will probably come to the dealer? I heared something of 2010/2011?

    Maybe I should start a new thread with this question / topic?!

    Greetings

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    Lars997 said:
    better wait for the Salon de Automobile in Geneva 6.-16. March 2008!



    Any idea when the first FL models will be delivered to customers? In March as well?

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    Phoenix_911 said:
    Maybe I should start a new thread with this question / topic?!



    Do you think it will get as many hits/responses as this one?

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    Phoenix_911 said:
    Hello everybody!

    Does anybody got an idea, when the next 911-Generation will probably come to the dealer? I heared something of 2010/2011?

    Maybe I should start a new thread with this question / topic?!

    Greetings



    To early to speculate, the face lifted hasn't even hit the showroom floors yet. It will most likely live on 3-4 years after the face lift.

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    What's the expectation in terms of power for the CS? another 20/25HP as in the 996 facelift?

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    ADias said:
    What's the expectation in terms of power for the CS? another 20/25HP as in the 996 facelift?



    Rumours vary between a 20 and 45hp increase. The higher power output of up to 400hp for the Carrera S is the newest rumour and seems to be rather likely. This seems quite reliable since the engine will become direct injection. That would also explain the early production stop for the GT3/RS because the difference between the FL-Carrera S and GT3/RS will be too small. Also remember the massive power increase of the Cayenne engines after they've got DI-engines.

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    Well considering the R8 performances i think they better update the car to meet them. 400 bhp? humm....if i know porsche enough that will not be the power output of the new carrera S.
    380 maybe?

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    I hope i can order this facelift in march, i dont want to wait , but i feel i almost have to.

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    silvershadow said:
    Well considering the R8 performances i think they better update the car to meet them. 400 bhp? humm....if i know porsche enough that will not be the power output of the new carrera S.
    380 maybe?



    yeah, though, i don't know how much of a threat R8 sales will be (my guess is it's a low volume car -- anyone know what the projections are?) so how much porsche will position the 997 to compete i don't know. also, it costs antoher 25 grand or so i believe (closer to the 997tt i think..) but the car got an incredible write up in EVO magazine recently.

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    Base will be likely 350hp and the S will be 375hp. Can't upset S owners and X51 owners...

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    Le Chef said:
    Base will be likely 350hp and the S will be 375hp. Can't upset S owners and X51 owners...



    If they go by your figures, aren't they already upsetting S and X51 owners

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    ITALOKOKO said:
    Quote:
    Le Chef said:
    Base will be likely 350hp and the S will be 375hp. Can't upset S owners and X51 owners...



    If they go by your figures, aren't they already upsetting S and X51 owners


    I think Porsche is less concerned with upsetting current owners as much as giving them a reason to trade up

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    Grant said:
    Quote:
    ITALOKOKO said:
    Quote:
    Le Chef said:
    Base will be likely 350hp and the S will be 375hp. Can't upset S owners and X51 owners...



    If they go by your figures, aren't they already upsetting S and X51 owners


    I think Porsche is less concerned with upsetting current owners as much as giving them a reason to trade up



    Very true.

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

    More facelift shots (Targa)

    http://4wheelsblog.com/spy-photos/spy-photos-porsche-911-targa-facelift

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    Ron (Houston) said:
    More facelift shots (Targa)

    http://4wheelsblog.com/spy-photos/spy-photos-porsche-911-targa-facelift



    I like the rear view, still have to get used to to the new fog light graphics at the front. Perhaps it will work without any camouflage. Also the bigger rear mirrors don't look as bad as once expected, at least in black.

    With the 400hp-DI-engine in the Carrera S (if true), this will be a very tempting car.

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    Rossi said:
    With the 400hp-DI-engine in the Carrera S (if true), this will be a very tempting car.



    Didn't even read the text . You're right with 400 hp I believe Porsche will sell these babies like there is no tomorrow.

    HP was what Porsche was lacking Vs. the competition. If CS comes with 400 hp I will be in the waiting list ASAP.

    Re: HOT: Pictures of 997 Facelift!!!!

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    Ron (Houston) said:
    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    With the 400hp-DI-engine in the Carrera S (if true), this will be a very tempting car.



    Didn't even read the text . You're right with 400 hp I believe Porsche will sell these babies like there is no tomorrow.

    HP was what Porsche was lacking Vs. the competition. If CS comes with 400 hp I will be in the waiting list ASAP.



    You are absolutely right. I am currently in a holding pattern regarding my next purchase. But, if PAG introduces the aforementioned 911, I'll be in queue ASAP!

     
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