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wickeddeus said:
Moore.....what a lying loser he is.
Lying? I just think that MM gives people what they want to hear. His movie Fahrenheit 9/11 won at the Cannes Film Festival because it was anti-US and especially anti-Bush.
ANY movie of this kind would have won because right now it is "tres chique" in Europe to be against the US politics and especially Bush. Which reminds me very much of how people in Europe were reacting to Ronald Reagan many years ago when he was president of the USA.
History now proves that Reagan was right with his pressure upon the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact but when he was president, the media and of course people were making fun of him the same way the media and people do now with Bush.
I don't say I fully agree with Bush (he should keep god and christianity out of his speeches and declarations because people in islamic states don't want to hear that and I think religion should stay out of politics) but blaming him for every evil thing on this planet and even building up some weird conspiracy stories which even the democrats would never believe, is ridiculous. He has been elected, as controversial the elections might have been and if people don't like him, they can choose somebody else soon. This is how democracy works. Those personal insults don't work with me, I don't like this kind of stuff, especially since a lot of things are really exagerrated. I mean my hair cutter who has 9 classes of school, who doesn't speak another foreign language and who probably never read a book, tells me that he thinks Bush is an analphabet. C'mon, this is ridiculous.
The Media is very influencial and people believe everything they read. Apparently nobody seems to wonder that if you take 10 different news papers, you might read 10 different stories...regarding the same issue.
Or to make it short and use the words of Ray Bradbury, the author of Fahrenheit 451 (MM "stole the title from this novel), a true masterpiece novel: Michael Moore is an a..hole.
And I really recommend to everybody to read Bradbury's book or at least watch the movie. It might not be as entertaining as watching Mr. Bush golfing and having MM making fun of him but it is on a much higher intellectual level and has a real message which gives food for thought.
And a last word to my US friends: I think Americans give up too easily and don't have enough patience.
And you guys seem to forget that nothing comes for free.
Look at the past and you understand what I mean.
After 9/11 Bush had, as far as I remember, a 93% approval rate. And now? He can't do wonders, he doesn't do politics by his own (this is no one man show) and fighting terrorism is not like an ordinary war which can be won easily and/or by rules.
And what is actually very "funny": countries like France or Germany are arresting almost every month islamic fanatics who are suspected to plan terrorist acts.
So there IS in fact a real danger? (some of the Bush critics think that the terror threat is just "hot air" and some even use conspiracy theories involving the CIA/NSA and other foreign services) And why do over 300 KSK soldiers (KSK=german special forces like Green Berets, Delta Force, etc.) conduct hand in hand together with US special forces in Afghanistan fighting and search missions against Taliban fighters and their leaders? I mean Germany is against war, right? Most people in Germany don't even know that this happens, our chancellor mentioned it once or twice to the press without further comment "to protect" the operations.
Interesting, we peace loving countries like Germany and France are actually fighting terrorism? Why if this is only a US fantasy which doesn't exist?!
I know I'm a bit exaggerating but you get my point.
The Media is very powerful, not only in Europe but also in the US and especially in the Middle East where adding a little bit of oriental fantasy to the story spices up the whole thing.
And now back to talking cars...we want to stay friends over here.