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Jul 26, 2018 11:17:59 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: d997h

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

d997h:
WAY:

Yup no way I would do it. I don’t mind 4 cyl per se but the sound is like a droning engine sound.

Given, that Porsche produces no cars, how is the supply in your part of the world on "Ts" ? Today, I just compared the "Ts" available at my dealer (ie. 4) and they basically have the same "Carrera" Options, only one has the buckets but the foldable not the GT ones and none have RWS. So, basically all with the usual comfy Options...

What do you mean by “Porsche produces no cars”? The T ordered by dealers here are the same as your part of the world. I have not seen one with RWS and buckets yet. But someone is trying to sell a yellow one with 1200km, with PCCB and RWS. Tempting!

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Jul 27, 2018 6:59:38 AM

d997h: Expert; Loc: . , Germany; Posts: 1810, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 24, 2005; Reply to: WAY

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

well, due to new certification requirements Porsche will commence producing cars again starting September or as it says in the car configurator:

"This model is not currently available for configuration as a new factory order. Please continue to use the Car Configurator to explore the model. For more information regarding availability please contact your preferred Porsche Centre."

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Jul 27, 2018 12:32:39 PM

Porsche-Jeck: Rennteam Master; Loc: Rheinland , Germany; Posts: 4856, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 27, 2005; Reply to: d997h

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I understood that they do not produce any MY2019 Ts (or Carrera/S/GTS2wd for that matter) for the EU market due to new emission and testing rules from 1st September. The only Carrera models available here as MY2019 are the 4wd GTS cars (equipped with particulate filters already).

Now the question is whether Porsche continues to build 991.2 Carrera cars after the summer break for RoW markets (certainly not for a whole MY as the 992 is around the corner but maybe for a quarter or two) ?

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Jul 27, 2018 3:05:44 PM

d997h: Expert; Loc: . , Germany; Posts: 1810, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 24, 2005; Reply to: Porsche-Jeck

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hmm, ok, confusing, isn't ? I have abandoned further "investigations" and stopped looking into a new P. anyway. Looking forward to having some fun at the Porsche Club days in Hockenheim this weekend.

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Jul 27, 2018 4:05:22 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: d997h

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Dealers are confirmed that they have Oct and Nov build slots for Carrera T so they are still building them for Australia for FY19.

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Jul 28, 2018 12:49:40 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: WAY

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It is my understanding that 991.2 Carrera models with particulate filters and 718s with same will be produced this autumn. GT models, Cayenne/Panamera models with particiulate filters will enter production later on, latest early 2019.

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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)

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Jul 30, 2018 3:59:42 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: RC

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

Nice spec. I would have been interested if it had rear seats!

https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-2018/SSE-AD-5571109

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Aug 3, 2018 4:31:59 AM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: WAY

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

I have a question. On RL people are talking about the privacy glass not being the lightweight glass. Is this true? If so why are Gt2RS privacy glass lightweight?

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Aug 3, 2018 6:19:16 AM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: WAY

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Because it is a GT car and not a base Carrera angry indecision

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2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White

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Aug 3, 2018 7:32:41 AM

d997h: Expert; Loc: . , Germany; Posts: 1810, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 24, 2005; Reply to: WAY

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I cannot comment on the GT-cars, but, yes, "privacy glass" replaces the lightweight glass and, FWIW, with the normal glass you get the heated rear window (again) ...it has already been noted that the switch for the heated rear window is being kept for the thinn glass, however, non-functional...so, I don't know what a heated rear window means in your part of the world, but, that is the way it is... Smiley

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Aug 3, 2018 10:34:02 AM

Porsche-Jeck: Rennteam Master; Loc: Rheinland , Germany; Posts: 4856, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 27, 2005; Reply to: d997h

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

With the ongoing heat wave I am more than happy with the privacy glass (yes I know - it adds a whopping 4 kg to the kerb weight) Smiley Kept me cool and relaxed on my 1,200 Autobahn-km the last three days. I was mighty impressed by the engine's thermo management - I was giving it the beans whenever possible (thanks God everyone is hanging around at the sea or the mountains these days and not on the Autobahn) at outside temps constantly between 38°C and 40,5°C - no problem whatsoever with the oil temp Smiley

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Aug 3, 2018 11:32:44 AM

d997h: Expert; Loc: . , Germany; Posts: 1810, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 24, 2005; Reply to: Porsche-Jeck

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

Porsche-Jeck:
With the ongoing heat wave I am more than happy with the privacy glass (yes I know - it adds a whopping 4 kg to the kerb weight) Kept me cool and relaxed on my 1,200 Autobahn-km the last three days. I was mighty impressed by the engine's thermo management - I was giving it the beans whenever possible (thanks God everyone is hanging around at the sea or the mountains these days and not on the Autobahn) at outside temps constantly between 38°C and 40,5°C - no problem whatsoever with the oil temp

well, it is a Porsche, right Smiley ? I had some fun as well last weekend in Hockenheim...though, the heat was tough on the car and the driver, no issues at all, well, I have to car in today for a new set of tires...

I envy you a bit on the "T" - I have closed the file for now, but I am still impressed from the little drive I had last week...

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Aug 6, 2018 4:42:26 PM

blueflame: Expert; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 1700, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 28, 2005; Reply to: d997h

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

Short report of my first T-trackday at the Hockenheimring on Sunday.

After a early 05:30 start we drove on an empty Autobahn to the ring and reached for the first time top speed.From 280 – 300 Km/h you really need a big empty part of the Autobahn…

The trackday was organised by the „Pistenclub“ - you have to pay 475 EUR for one day with „open pitlane“ – this time just for streetcars, which is much more relaxing.The track never was crowded and you can search for your line and your best times without the pressure of racecars in the neck.

The T is very stable on the race track and very easy to drive fast. We drove the GP-Layout of Hockenheim and the T reached the same laptimes as my old 981 Spyder, but I could drive more laps, because the PCCB brakes showed no fade at all – perfect!!!

The 981 Spyder was a little bit more nervous around the fast righthander before the Mercedes Grandstands – the T is rock solid at this part.

I followed my friend in his 991.2 GT3 and I lost almost 2 seconds per lap – no surprise.

After the lunch break , T (driver, no passenger) with ¼ gastank and the stick GT3 (driver+100Kg passenger) with full tank, the situation changed and I could stay at his rear for some laps - but I had to work harder than my friend in his GT3 ;-) But it was closer - weight means so much on track!!!

You can have fun with the T on the track and pass almost everything from the other german manufactures, but the home of this car ist the backroad or the alpine pass – so also no surprise here.

In the afternoon, we switched cars – and boy…I love the .2 GT3, the engine with 9.000rpms, sound, no understeer, the grip of the cup tires, the aero downforce, the rock hard brake pedal…what a car.

So you get what you pay for – my T is about 125K€ and my friends GT3 ist about 175K€ - I am not disappointed.

I will enjoy the T for more 1.5 years and then a used GT3 will follow to celebrate my 50th birthday.

Blueflame

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Aug 6, 2018 4:44:41 PM

blueflame: Expert; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 1700, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 28, 2005; Reply to: blueflame

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

Some pics of the really hot day...

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Aug 6, 2018 4:48:01 PM

blueflame: Expert; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 1700, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 28, 2005; Reply to: blueflame

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iPad changed the order of the pics - sorry.

Blueflame

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Aug 6, 2018 4:56:56 PM

blueflame: Expert; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 1700, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 28, 2005; Reply to: blueflame

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And some more of the Pistenclub-photographer.

Blueflame

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Aug 6, 2018 5:11:31 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: blueflame

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

Very nice! kiss Thanks for sharing! wink

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2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White

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Aug 6, 2018 5:25:51 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21149, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: bluelines

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2018 Porsche 911 Carrera T first drive: Pure inspiration

https://www.slashgear.com/2018-porsche-911-carrera-t-first-drive-review-05540113/

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Aug 6, 2018 5:33:48 PM

Gauss: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Luxembourg , Luxembourg; Posts: 5822, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 3, 2003; Reply to: blueflame

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

blueflame:
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I will enjoy the T for more 1.5 years and then a used GT3 will follow to celebrate my 50th birthday.

Blueflame

That's a plan Smiley

Thanks for the review. I enjoyed reading it.

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Aug 6, 2018 6:08:22 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: blueflame

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

Nice review, Blueflame! Your T would be even more impressive with the Cup2's of the GT3 Smiley

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Aug 6, 2018 7:02:20 PM

d997h: Expert; Loc: . , Germany; Posts: 1810, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 24, 2005; Reply to: blueflame

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Thanks for sharing the pics and the brief report. I assume that you have been even closer to the GT3 with PDK ? What was your speed before „Spitzkehre“? - just curious. My GTS reaches around 225 / 228 km/h at this point (and just the same hot sunday before...).

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Aug 6, 2018 7:15:24 PM

Porker: Rennteam VIP; Loc: SZ , Switzerland; Posts: 7062, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 17, 2005; Reply to: d997h

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Really nice, thanks for sharing!

What I do notice, after last trackday at Imola, even with PCCB's my pedal started getting softer by the end of the day. And to this day, my brakes haven't felt the same, the power is there but the pedal travel has become longer and softer. Anyone else noticed that? Maybe it's the brakes bedding in, but I prefered the harder pedal I had before.

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Aug 6, 2018 8:05:44 PM

blueflame: Expert; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 1700, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 28, 2005; Reply to: d997h

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

d997h:
Thanks for sharing the pics and the brief report. I assume that you have been even closer to the GT3 with PDK ? What was your speed before „Spitzkehre“? - just curious. My GTS reaches around 225 / 228 km/h at this point (and just the same hot sunday before...).

T 240Km/h

GT3 251 Km/h

Blueflame

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Aug 6, 2018 8:47:01 PM

d997h: Expert; Loc: . , Germany; Posts: 1810, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 24, 2005; Reply to: blueflame

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Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Aug 6, 2018 8:48:15 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: d997h

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

991.2 GTS 265 km/h indecision

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2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White

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Aug 6, 2018 8:51:01 PM

d997h: Expert; Loc: . , Germany; Posts: 1810, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 24, 2005; Reply to: bluelines

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bluelines:
991.2 GTS 265 km/h

Bloody GT3 killah! Smiley Smiley

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Aug 6, 2018 10:07:09 PM

blueflame: Expert; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 1700, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 28, 2005; Reply to: bluelines

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bluelines:
991.2 GTS 265 km/h

PDK Smiley Smiley

Blueflame

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Aug 6, 2018 10:27:10 PM

blueflame: Expert; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 1700, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 28, 2005; Reply to: blueflame

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

Just one more thing for some who are thinking about to buy a GT3 or RS after their „normal“ 911/991:

T vs 991.2 GT3

Insurance: 850€/2.000€

tyre-set: 1.000€/1.700€

service: 700€/1.200€

gas this weekend: GT3 + 40%

So a lot more money for 2 seconds on the track...but worth every cent. smiley

Enclosed a pic of the left front Dunlop-tyre of the GT3 after 450 Km on the track at 35C...(Total 6.000 km).

Too much hot laps without breaks in between...:-(

I drove my Michelins 4s 410 Km on the track (total 6.500km) and they are fine.

Blueflame

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Aug 6, 2018 10:33:57 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: Porker

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

Porker:
Really nice, thanks for sharing!

What I do notice, after last trackday at Imola, even with PCCB's my pedal started getting softer by the end of the day. And to this day, my brakes haven't felt the same, the power is there but the pedal travel has become longer and softer. Anyone else noticed that? Maybe it's the brakes bedding in, but I prefered the harder pedal I had before.

Hi Frank - I’d recommend some better brake fluid as a first inexpensive fix. The factory fill is not very good at the track.

Btw, Porsche factory race cars use Endless RF650 and it’s really good, but there are many options.

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18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

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Aug 7, 2018 6:03:08 AM

d997h: Expert; Loc: . , Germany; Posts: 1810, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 24, 2005; Reply to: Grant

Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

yup, I use and replace (every year) race brake fluid (Castrol React SRF Racing) and can confirm "no softness" on the track...(unless, the idiot driving my car - me - once in a while drives the pads to the metal, grrrr, not paying attention and then has to replace not only pads but also discs - by the way, that is the main reason I would NEVER have PCCBs on my car...)

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