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    May 20, 2007 6:02:36 PM

    KresoF1
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    The Worst ever F430...

    ...is by Hamann of course!

    Remember recent very ugly Murci LP640 by Hamann

    Now look at this POS...


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    May 20, 2007 6:12:28 PM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Hamann offers design service that makes good cars look bad.
    They are very successful at that!

    May 20, 2007 6:28:01 PM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Awww come on! Ive seen alot worse.... i dont think that the F430 is that bad!! If it was all black with no stripes then it might look better...but I guess the colour is scheme is no more garish than a GT3 RS...

    May 21, 2007 12:06:03 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Kreso have you been following the 997RS sales in the US? Similar color going for $50,000 over MSRP! My God it is a Porsche and a GT3 to boot.

    There is no accounting for taste.

    May 21, 2007 12:54:27 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    So when Ferraris sell for 100-200k over it is a result of supply and demand, yet when Porches sell for any premium it is ridiculous? I'm sorry but I would take a GT3 RS or 997 Turbo over an F430 any day. A 599 on the other hand...what a machine

    May 21, 2007 1:27:43 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

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    So when Ferraris sell for 100-200k over it is a result of supply and demand, yet when Porches sell for any premium it is ridiculous? I'm sorry but I would take a GT3 RS or 997 Turbo over an F430 any day. A 599 on the other hand...what a machine



    Like I said, with youth you lack wisdom and experience. As you get older you will understand.

    May 21, 2007 1:48:24 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Wow you are arrogant. Everyone has there own opinions. Don't think that I don't appreciate Ferraris, I do. My point is, I see F430s all the time. More often than 997 turbos, and way more often than 997 GT3s. Besides, the Gallardo and Turbo outperform the F430 in all aspects (track and straight line). Perhaps the F430 replacement will impress me but the only thing I like about the F430 are its looks. The only current production Ferrari that really blows me away is the 599.

    May 21, 2007 2:54:48 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    For those who desire a Ferrari different than their neighbors, it will fill the bill. However, in the end, unique color schemes can be resale proof.

    May 21, 2007 3:56:47 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    ...is by Hamann of course!

    Remember recent very ugly Murci LP640 by Hamann

    Now look at this POS...


    More on:
    http://www.worldcarfans.com/tuners.cfm/c...0-black-miracle






    I think Nick will like that car, since one of the things that makes Ferraris special, at least according to him, is the amount of looks it gets.

    David

    May 21, 2007 7:52:19 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
    trip said: Besides, the Gallardo and Turbo outperform the F430 in all aspects (track and straight line).



    That is the great thing about making comments based upon reading car magazines and not driving the cars - you get stupid comments like this
    I can tell you as an owner of a Gallardo and 430 that the 430 is light years ahead on a track

    May 21, 2007 8:08:04 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Thats funny Trax if slower in every track comparo including the one that really matters (n'ring) is what you mean by light years ahead than I'll stick with ancient tech any time. Again I like the 430, I just prefer the turbo and Gallardo, they also have been proven to perform better so deal with it. If the next gen 430 is faster than 997tts and replacement G than I will probably prefer the F. Until then save your insults and go drive your beauties, that is if you actually own them.

    May 21, 2007 8:17:42 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    May 21, 2007 8:37:02 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

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    Thats funny Trax if slower in every track comparo including the one that really matters (n'ring) is what you mean by light years ahead than I'll stick with ancient tech any time. Again I like the 430, I just prefer the turbo and Gallardo, they also have been proven to perform better so deal with it. If the next gen 430 is faster than 997tts and replacement G than I will probably prefer the F. Until then save your insults and go drive your beauties, that is if you actually own them.



    Trip, you are using various threads to tell everyone that the Gallardo and TT are better than the F430. Fine. We understand. I'm sure Ferrari and F430 owners will get over it.

    Now to something different. It's boring.

    May 21, 2007 8:53:51 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
    zzboba said:
    Quote:
    trip said:
    Thats funny Trax if slower in every track comparo including the one that really matters (n'ring) is what you mean by light years ahead than I'll stick with ancient tech any time. Again I like the 430, I just prefer the turbo and Gallardo, they also have been proven to perform better so deal with it. If the next gen 430 is faster than 997tts and replacement G than I will probably prefer the F. Until then save your insults and go drive your beauties, that is if you actually own them.



    Trip, you are using various threads to tell everyone that the Gallardo and TT are better than the F430. Fine. We understand. I'm sure Ferrari and F430 owners will get over it.

    Now to something different. It's boring.



    They are different, not better, as each car has its own strengths and weaknesses.

    May 21, 2007 8:57:16 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
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    Quote:
    zzboba said:
    Quote:
    trip said:
    Thats funny Trax if slower in every track comparo including the one that really matters (n'ring) is what you mean by light years ahead than I'll stick with ancient tech any time. Again I like the 430, I just prefer the turbo and Gallardo, they also have been proven to perform better so deal with it. If the next gen 430 is faster than 997tts and replacement G than I will probably prefer the F. Until then save your insults and go drive your beauties, that is if you actually own them.



    Trip, you are using various threads to tell everyone that the Gallardo and TT are better than the F430. Fine. We understand. I'm sure Ferrari and F430 owners will get over it.

    Now to something different. It's boring.



    They are different, not better, as each car has its own strengths and weaknesses.



    Exactly

    May 21, 2007 10:12:08 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    back to the thread subject, this 430 is an insult to my retina. somebody should sue hamman for destroying the lines of the most beautiful cars on earth. i am sure he will have a lot of success if he modifies subaru's and mitsu's..

    May 21, 2007 10:20:26 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Coming back to the thread - this colour scheme looks awful to me. Really hideous. Spoils a really lovely car.

    May 21, 2007 10:52:40 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Only a word to define it

    RICER

    May 22, 2007 8:04:38 PM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    the worst part is, some ppl actually empty out their wallets for sh!t like that.

    May 23, 2007 4:48:19 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Kreso have you been following the 997RS sales in the US? Similar color going for $50,000 over MSRP! My God it is a Porsche and a GT3 to boot.

    There is no accounting for taste.



    Nick, I think you need glasses in your old age...The RS is black on orange. This hideous Ferrari is orange on black. There's a huge aesthetic difference the two schemes.

    David

    May 23, 2007 6:03:59 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
    DavidSF said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Kreso have you been following the 997RS sales in the US? Similar color going for $50,000 over MSRP! My God it is a Porsche and a GT3 to boot.

    There is no accounting for taste.



    Nick, I think you need glasses in your old age...The RS is black on orange. This hideous Ferrari is orange on black. There's a huge aesthetic difference the two schemes.

    David



    There is also the reversed colour sheme, orange on black, available for the GT3RS.

    May 23, 2007 1:19:32 PM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...


    Actually, I agree with Nick.
    Hamman is the worst tuner working outhere regarding design, but the GT3RS is the most pimped 997 you can get, actually hamman wouldn't have to make many mods on this car to make it more pimp.
    And please don't take me wrong I have Porsches for more than 10 years but those white 996 RS with blue and red pimped decals and the new 997 RS are simply cheap tuning looking cars.

    J.Seven

    May 23, 2007 1:49:05 PM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Would the lower ride heigth and the utilization of stiffer springs conflict with the Manettino?

    May 23, 2007 5:27:18 PM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
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    And please don't take me wrong I have Porsches for more than 10 years but those white 996 RS with blue and red pimped decals and the new 997 RS are simply cheap tuning looking cars.



    Very true. They've overdone it at the GT3RS, in every aspect.

    Finetuning of the standard GT3, with less weight and more power would have been the better way.

    May 25, 2007 1:52:06 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    DavidSF said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Kreso have you been following the 997RS sales in the US? Similar color going for $50,000 over MSRP! My God it is a Porsche and a GT3 to boot.

    There is no accounting for taste.



    Nick, I think you need glasses in your old age...The RS is black on orange. This hideous Ferrari is orange on black. There's a huge aesthetic difference the two schemes.

    David



    There is also the reversed colour sheme, orange on black, available for the GT3RS.



    Really? I've never seen orange on black. I thought the RS was only offered in two color schemes (unless custom ordered): black on oraange and blue (red?) on white. Maybe that was the 996 GT3RS? Even on Porsche's website for North America/US they only show black on oragne for the RS. Any ways, I'm sure Nick was thinking black on orange.

    David

    May 28, 2007 10:07:46 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    DavidSF said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Kreso have you been following the 997RS sales in the US? Similar color going for $50,000 over MSRP! My God it is a Porsche and a GT3 to boot.

    There is no accounting for taste.



    Nick, I think you need glasses in your old age...The RS is black on orange. This hideous Ferrari is orange on black. There's a huge aesthetic difference the two schemes.

    David



    There is also the reversed colour sheme, orange on black, available for the GT3RS.



    Comparo

    May 28, 2007 10:13:53 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
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    So when Ferraris sell for 100-200k over it is a result of supply and demand, yet when Porches sell for any premium it is ridiculous?


    I was thinking the exact same
    And yes he is arrogant. Nick has this thing where he is always right and if you differ of opinion you're an 1diot.

    May 28, 2007 3:37:49 PM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
    BC911 said:
    Quote:
    trip said:
    So when Ferraris sell for 100-200k over it is a result of supply and demand, yet when Porches sell for any premium it is ridiculous?


    I was thinking the exact same
    And yes he is arrogant. Nick has this thing where he is always right and if you differ of opinion you're an 1diot.



    He's not arrogant, he just have a sence of humor who might be difficult to catch for some of you

    J.Seven

    May 29, 2007 2:06:04 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
    BC911 said:
    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    DavidSF said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Kreso have you been following the 997RS sales in the US? Similar color going for $50,000 over MSRP! My God it is a Porsche and a GT3 to boot.

    There is no accounting for taste.



    Nick, I think you need glasses in your old age...The RS is black on orange. This hideous Ferrari is orange on black. There's a huge aesthetic difference the two schemes.

    David



    There is also the reversed colour sheme, orange on black, available for the GT3RS.



    Comparo





    That orange on black RS looks like a photoshop. Whatever, even if it really exists, Still doesn't look as bad as the Ferrari. Maybe it's the silly orange stripe on the hood and the orange accents on the side skirts and front spoiler that make the Ferrari look so hideous.

    David

    May 29, 2007 6:32:06 AM

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    Re: The Worst ever F430...

    Quote:
    J.Seven said:
    Quote:
    BC911 said:
    Quote:
    trip said:
    So when Ferraris sell for 100-200k over it is a result of supply and demand, yet when Porches sell for any premium it is ridiculous?


    I was thinking the exact same
    And yes he is arrogant. Nick has this thing where he is always right and if you differ of opinion you're an 1diot.



    He's not arrogant, he just have a sence of humor who might be difficult to catch for some of you

    J.Seven


    No. I know he does has a sense of humour.
    But this is not funny as it can be taken the wrong way
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