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    First speeding ticket with 997S

    Hello,
    Got caught in Redondo Beach, doing 65m/h 40m/h Zone not really speeding, nobody on the road ahead or behind , for those of you who live here in the south bay , watch out for Aviation Ave. going north after Manhattan beach blvd.
    Need help and info if any of you have on the ' Cordless Escort Solo S2 " radar detector, I prefer a cordless one so I can transfer from car to car and also less cables all over.
    Any help will be appreciated.


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    I bought my Valentine 1 WELL before I got this car.

    Thanks for the 10-20.

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    Sorry to hear you got taxed. See? This is why we get these detectors to prevent the sneaky radar traps. Personally I wouldn't rely on a cordless that runs on batteries. I want full juice from a power cord, all the time.

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    Pabs1 said:
    Hello,
    Got caught in Redondo Beach, doing 65m/h 40m/h Zone not really speeding, nobody on the road ahead or behind , for those of you who live here in the south bay , watch out for Aviation Ave. going north after Manhattan beach blvd.
    Need help and info if any of you have on the ' Cordless Escort Solo S2 " radar detector, I prefer a cordless one so I can transfer from car to car and also less cables all over.
    Any help will be appreciated.





    That stretch of Aviation Blvd. is now really open (for speeding) since it's been widened. Also watch out on PCH between Artesia and Pier Ave. There's a motorcycle officer usually parked w/ his gun as you come down the hill (southbound). I got burned in Culver City by a camera last month for 'abusing' a left turn against red. I was 0.7 seconds into the 'red' due to a number of annoying circumstances. That little lack of judgement cost me close to $450 (on-line driving school included). I have a Valentine 1 hardwired into the overhead light console for early warning purposes.

    Get ready to open your wallet wide for that ticket.

    Good Luck!

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    AP997S said:
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    Pabs1 said:
    Hello,
    Got caught in Redondo Beach, doing 65m/h 40m/h Zone not really speeding, nobody on the road ahead or behind , for those of you who live here in the south bay , watch out for Aviation Ave. going north after Manhattan beach blvd.
    Need help and info if any of you have on the ' Cordless Escort Solo S2 " radar detector, I prefer a cordless one so I can transfer from car to car and also less cables all over.
    Any help will be appreciated.





    That stretch of Aviation Blvd. is now really open (for speeding) since it's been widened. Also watch out on PCH between Artesia and Pier Ave. There's a motorcycle officer usually parked w/ his gun as you come down the hill (southbound). I got burned in Culver City by a camera last month for 'abusing' a left turn against red. I was 0.7 seconds into the 'red' due to a number of annoying circumstances. That little lack of judgement cost me close to $450 (on-line driving school included). I have a Valentine 1 hardwired into the overhead light console for early warning purposes.

    Get ready to open your wallet wide for that ticket.

    Good Luck!



    Thanks for the info on artesia and PCH, I've seen them there a lot.
    If you don't mind can you expand on" abusing a left turn " what does it mean ?
    Thanks.

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    Freeeeeeekin' suuuuuuuuuuuucks. 65 in a 40 sounds bad if you're in a neighborhood, but there's lots of places to do a vigilent 65 (for a few seconds) and not be driving like an ahole. DAMMIT.

    Don't get the solo, it has limited range because of it's teeny power supply (two aa batts). You need something like V1 or passport so you can detect the slightest weak reflection of the cop zapping cars ahead of you. You may only get one chance ( when cop is in ambush mode) and the solo will not be sensitive enough.

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    I do not know if the cops are on a "mission" right now. I have not been in California, but I just took a trip through BC, Canada, then into Washington, Idaho and Montana. I must have gone through 15-20 radar traps. In Montana (where cops are rare) between the Idaho border and Billings I went through a trap about every 10-20 miles in some areas.

    Luckily my Passport saved me from every one, but there were a few close calls !

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    Bummer, let me guess you were still in 3rd gear??

    Traffic school..at least you can do it online now...

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    I really think they are on a mission, because all around LA and the surrounding towns they are on their bikes everywhere .

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    Going from second to third.


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    MMD said:
    Freeeeeeekin' suuuuuuuuuuuucks. 65 in a 40 sounds bad if you're in a neighborhood, but there's lots of places to do a vigilant 65 (for a few seconds) and not be driving like an ahole. DAMMIT.








    The road is new widen and asphalted road, no neighborhood at all, just industrial parks, movie studios, and sparse office buildings, beautiful for a short stint........... but no more!!!

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    Don't feel bad I got one doing 70 instead of 35. The bastard wrote me 3 tickets, speeding, not having front license plate and a shield on my rear plate.

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    Pabs1 said:
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    Thanks for the info on artesia and PCH, I've seen them there a lot.
    If you don't mind can you expand on" abusing a left turn " what does it mean ?
    Thanks.



    Sorry . . I made a left turn on a red arrow. Was in the 'red zone' by 0.7 seconds and was doing 22 mph according to the live action video that Culver City uses. My passendger saw the 'flash' from the camera. The ticket arrived via USPS in about a week. They are very efficient. You can even log onto a web site and watch the video frame by frame. Great resolution cameras. Had a great close up 'mug shot' of me behind the wheel and a extra sharp pic of my rear plate.

    I knew that Culver City is loaded w/ intersection cameras but circumstances (horrible traffic and some clown in a big motor home in front of me in the left turn lane decides at the last minute to get out of the left turn only lane). I should have stopped but oncoming traffic was clear and I figured 'f**k it'. I won't to that again.

    My advise to everyone driving through the Culver City corridor(s) is to be extra cautious/carefull and look for the signs posted regarding traffic cameras.

    Let us all know what this speeding ticket fine cost.

    BTW: I attended an on-line traffice school ('gotaticket.com') for about 20 bucks. Of course the LA court system tacks on an 'administrative fee' on top of the violation fee for 'processing' you through traffic school.

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    someone said that if you're not handed the 'ticket' by an officer it is unenforceable in court. ?

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    Dan L said:
    someone said that if you're not handed the 'ticket' by an officer it is unenforceable in court. ?



    I recall some contraversy a few years back about 'camera' citations but I believe the court systems have moved forward and they are now considered valid and enforceable.

    If someone has specific details on this topic please pipe in.

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    Dan L said:
    someone said that if you're not handed the 'ticket' by an officer it is unenforceable in court. ?



    Dan: What do you mean by "handed the 'ticket' " ?

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    AP997S said:
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    Pabs1 said:
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    Thanks for the info on artesia and PCH, I've seen them there a lot.
    If you don't mind can you expand on" abusing a left turn " what does it mean ?
    Thanks.



    Sorry . . I made a left turn on a red arrow. Was in the 'red zone' by 0.7 seconds and was doing 22 mph according to the live action video that Culver City uses. My passendger saw the 'flash' from the camera. The ticket arrived via USPS in about a week. They are very efficient. You can even log onto a web site and watch the video frame by frame. Great resolution cameras. Had a great close up 'mug shot' of me behind the wheel and a extra sharp pic of my rear plate.

    I knew that Culver City is loaded w/ intersection cameras but circumstances (horrible traffic and some clown in a big motor home in front of me in the left turn lane decides at the last minute to get out of the left turn only lane). I should have stopped but oncoming traffic was clear and I figured 'f**k it'. I won't to that again.

    My advise to everyone driving through the Culver City corridor(s) is to be extra cautious/carefull and look for the signs posted regarding traffic cameras.

    Let us all know what this speeding ticket fine cost.

    BTW: I attended an on-line traffice school ('gotaticket.com') for about 20 bucks. Of course the LA court system tacks on an 'administrative fee' on top of the violation fee for 'processing' you through traffic school.




    Thanks for the info, I noticed the cameras in Culver City , but didn't know they were " live " and follow all the way to the back license plate.
    There is this story ( don't know if it is true) That a guy got the picture in the mail where it shows his car crossing on a red light, the " guy " being a smart ass decided to send back a picture of the paper money that equaled the ticket amount, the police dept or court sent him back a picture of a pair of handcuffs............. the " guy " decided to promptly pay the ticket. The END


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    ADias said:
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    Dan L said:
    someone said that if you're not handed the 'ticket' by an officer it is unenforceable in court. ?



    Dan: What do you mean by "handed the 'ticket' " ?



    probably, but that's why you're required to sign for the ticket in the officer's presence. It indicates you promise to show up in court. If you don't sign you probably get arrested.

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    Heard or read one time that they are not enforceable when merely mailed to the 'suspect.' But then, you need to find one of those guys who actually passed the bar exam to guide you. Heard that they count on people to simply mail in the cash.

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    Dan L said:
    Heard or read one time that they are not enforceable when merely mailed to the 'suspect.' But then, you need to find one of those guys who actually passed the bar exam to guide you. Heard that they count on people to simply mail in the cash.



    Thanks for your advice. First off I suspect that the ACLU would be happy to assist anyone having their 'civil rights' comprimised or violated. Why isn't this matter on the ACLU short list. I suspect it's because traffic violation pictures and videos are considered sound evidence in court. Maybe the ACLU is too busy protecting the rights of terrorists, illegal alliens or homeless direlects. Tax paying citizens don't show up on the ACLU radar.

    Enough ranting for now.


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    65 in a 40 ?? hmmmm

    Yes officer!

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    Trundle_GT3 said:
    65 in a 40 ?? hmmmm

    Yes officer!



    LOL


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    Pabs1 ,, did they nick your dog too .

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    Was doing 72mph in a 65mph zone on the 605 N before than 91 for those who live in California. Everybody goes 80+. When I was driving I was going with the flow of traffic. He stop me, gave me a ticket and then gave me a sobriety test. I asked why he stopped me while everyone else was going faster. "Just your lucky day." He was a total jerkoff. And the sobriety test, I wasn't even drinking. All I can say is

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    throt said:
    Pabs1 ,, did they nick your dog too .



    I wish I had them with me, I could have use their
    " cuteness " to try to get out of the ticket.

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    MMD said:
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    ADias said:
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    Dan L said:
    someone said that if you're not handed the 'ticket' by an officer it is unenforceable in court. ?





    Dan: What do you mean by "handed the 'ticket' " ?



    probably, but that's why you're required to sign for the ticket in the officer's presence. It indicates you promise to show up in court. If you don't sign you probably get arrested.



    In Virginia, signing is required as you demonstrate you have received the "summons." If you don't sign, you get taken in.

    Virginia is interested in the revenue and in providing attorneys with a source of income. You spend more if you get an attorney but you can often get the offense plead down to a "19" over the limit whereas 20 or more gets you a reckless driving charge, which stays on your recored for 10 years here if I'm not mistaken.

    My brother got nailed here last June driving my new 911S; I was with him at the time. We should have stopped into an attorney's office in that town and he probably could have gotten the offense reduced. He didn't (I should have suggested it to him) and he got hit with the full reckless driving offense.

    He has to be careful now back in his home state as he just took delivery of a new Corvette. But you can use radar detectors there, whereas they are illegal in Virginia (GEICO insurance gave the Virginia State police radar units in exchange for the State banning radar detectors - what a bunch of worms!!).

    I am careful where I open it up and generally know where to watch out for the radar/lidar traps, but I assume one day I'll get nailed. I'll get my attorney to try to get the offense reduced.

    What a racket!!

    Jim

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    Just got back from a run from Ventura to Monterey, Redwood City and back. Put nearly 900 miles on the car. Average speed most of the time was 80-85+. Lots of CHPs in the usual places along that route and I saw lots of people pulled over.

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    Dan L said:
    someone said that if you're not handed the 'ticket' by an officer it is unenforceable in court. ?



    Sorry, I am afraid it is enforceable, if they can positively identify your face in the picture.

    If it is blurred, wrong sex (compared with car's registered owner), doesn't look like your drivers license picture, or ..., they often try to convince the owner he/she must snitch on who was driving. You do NOT have to answer. See the following site for very extensive discussions of this in California: http://www.highwayrobbery.net/

    Culver City appears to be one of the worst problem areas.

    Also CA drivers should be aware of some *good* idiosyncrasies in our traffic laws. There are links on the the site I referred to.

    For example,The "Basic Speed Law" applies when you are driving under 55 (65 on freeway) on a non-local road, etc., and says exceeding the posted speed limit is only "prima facie" evidence that you are driving at a speed "greater than is reasonable or prudent having due regard for weather, visibility, the traffic on, and the surface and width of, the highway, and in no event at a speed which endangers the safety of persons or property."

    Most important:
    "(b) The speed of any vehicle upon a highway in excess of the prima facie speed limits in Section 22352 or established as authorized in this code is prima facie unlawful unless the defendant establishes by competent evidence that the speed in excess of said limits did not constitute a violation of the basic speed law at the time, place and under the conditions then existing."

    This means that exceeding the speed limit (under 55) is not illegal, only that the onus is on you to prove that you were driving reasonably and prudently if you were exceeding the limit.

    As far as I know this unusual law is unique to California. Elsewhere, exceeding the speed limit is unlawful, not just prima facie unlawful (and in CA that is the case over 55 mph).

    Reading the law is easy: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/tocd11c7a1.htm

    I wish I had known this when I got nailed going 36 in a 30 (cop said it was 25, but I soon noticed a 30 sign!!) on totally empty 4 lanes, one way, Folsom St at 9 AM on a beautiful Saturday in San Francisco. (He was offended that I passed his motorcycle while talking with my wife without seeing him and bowing.) I now think I could have won in court, but I took the ridiculous online school.

    Another little known, though complex, defense in CA is the anti-Speed Trap law, which forbids use of radar under certain not unusual circumstances. Search dmv and the highwayrobbery site.

    Also, with regard to front license plates, see http://www.moweraxle.com/homepage.html
    He has license plate mounts (for under $100) that fit in the tow hook socket on Porsches and are very easy to put in -- and remove. I am testing the strategy of carrying one around assembled with a plate in my trunk. So, if questioned, I can say I was about to mount it, offer to do so on the spot, and attempt to deflect a ticket.

    TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION

    An extra tax is all speeding tickets are. What would the founding fathers do if they had Porsches back then?

    Personally I think there are a lot more nefarious & dangerous characters in the world that require more attention than Porsche owners.

    I just got a 2-point, +19 MPH @ $150 USD speeding ticket the other day and the cop had the nerve to hand me the ticket and then slap the side of my Porsche not once, but twice (very hard) then he said, "Have a nice day."

    I WAS A VICTIM OF FINANCIAL PROFILING!

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    OO7GT3 said:
    An extra tax is all speeding tickets are. What would the founding fathers do if they had Porsches back then?

    Personally I think there are a lot more nefarious & dangerous characters in the world that require more attention than Porsche owners.

    I just got a 2-point, +19 MPH @ $150 USD speeding ticket the other day and the cop had the nerve to hand me the ticket and then slap the side of my Porsche not once, but twice (very hard) then he said, "Have a nice day."

    I WAS A VICTIM OF FINANCIAL PROFILING!



    I'm afraid you were financially profiled. I live in a part of Virginia populated mainly by, what for want of a better term, is "rednecks." I have seen one Corvette without the front license plate, but I know they would nail me for the $250 fine if I didn't have one on my 911S as I'm not from this area. I hated ruining the appearance of the car, but I know the local mindset - nail someone with a Porsche, but not someone with a Corvette who is a local. It's all a revenue raising game, just to see how much they can shake down from those who have moved here. And if you own a P-car, all the more money to be looted from you!!

    Jim

     
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