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Re: Gallardo MY08
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Rossi said:Quote:
MAVERICK said:Quote:
dhayek said:
and let be me honest here, for some people i may be called a poseur, fine , i assume it ;
I like a self-proclaimed poseur who is not afraid to embrace his personality.
When do we get to see a music video showing us your talent?
Yeah, with all the chicks (that gave him their phone number) dancing in the background!
stefan , i admitted that for some i might be called a poseur , not a porno star!
Re: Gallardo MY08
This become a great thread! Keep on going!
BTW, back to original topic...
Ceramic Brakes(both fronts and rears 380mm/6caliper!!) are optional from mid MY07(December 2006) and they currently cost 12.000Euro without local VAT(or Mwst).
...and now a little clue why is every Gallardo from MY2007 little bit faster as manual then e.gear!
In German(hopefully native Germans like Rossi or MKSGR will help here with translation!):
"Der Gallardo in Männerausführung, also mit manueller Handschaltung, kann unter kundiger Hand eine Idee schneller als die E-Gear-Variante beschleunigen (siehe Test des baugleichen 2005er Gallardo SE E-Gear). Der Grund ist, dass bei der E-Gear-Schaltung auf Kundenwunsch das Einkuppeln entschärft wurde. Kunden der ersten Exemplare hatten sich darüber beschwert, dass der Gallardo E-Gear zu scharf anfahren würde (was suchen die eigentlich in einem Lamborghini ?!). Als Reaktion programmierte man das E-Gear so um, dass die Kupplung nun beim Anfahren stark schleift. Das muss man im "technisch rückständigen", handgeschalteten Gallardo nicht hinnehmen, sondern kann die Kupplung beim Anfahren richtig reinhauen. Zukunft bedeutet eben nicht immer Fortschritt... "
This info is TRUE! And it is a reason that Gallardo(all 520hp versions) is little bit faster both in straight line and on the track in manual version then e.gear... Also manual is 5kg lighter as well but, you won't find that info in official Lambo papers...
BTW, back to original topic...
Ceramic Brakes(both fronts and rears 380mm/6caliper!!) are optional from mid MY07(December 2006) and they currently cost 12.000Euro without local VAT(or Mwst).
...and now a little clue why is every Gallardo from MY2007 little bit faster as manual then e.gear!
In German(hopefully native Germans like Rossi or MKSGR will help here with translation!):
"Der Gallardo in Männerausführung, also mit manueller Handschaltung, kann unter kundiger Hand eine Idee schneller als die E-Gear-Variante beschleunigen (siehe Test des baugleichen 2005er Gallardo SE E-Gear). Der Grund ist, dass bei der E-Gear-Schaltung auf Kundenwunsch das Einkuppeln entschärft wurde. Kunden der ersten Exemplare hatten sich darüber beschwert, dass der Gallardo E-Gear zu scharf anfahren würde (was suchen die eigentlich in einem Lamborghini ?!). Als Reaktion programmierte man das E-Gear so um, dass die Kupplung nun beim Anfahren stark schleift. Das muss man im "technisch rückständigen", handgeschalteten Gallardo nicht hinnehmen, sondern kann die Kupplung beim Anfahren richtig reinhauen. Zukunft bedeutet eben nicht immer Fortschritt... "
This info is TRUE! And it is a reason that Gallardo(all 520hp versions) is little bit faster both in straight line and on the track in manual version then e.gear... Also manual is 5kg lighter as well but, you won't find that info in official Lambo papers...
Re: Gallardo MY08
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KresoF1 said:
This become a great thread! Keep on going!
BTW, back to original topic...
Ceramic Brakes(both fronts and rears 380mm/6caliper!!) are optional from mid MY07(December 2006) and they currently cost 12.000Euro without local VAT(or Mwst).
...and now a little clue why is every Gallardo from MY2007 little bit faster as manual then e.gear!
In German(hopefully native Germans like Rossi or MKSGR will help here with translation!):
"Der Gallardo in Männerausführung, also mit manueller Handschaltung, kann unter kundiger Hand eine Idee schneller als die E-Gear-Variante beschleunigen (siehe Test des baugleichen 2005er Gallardo SE E-Gear). Der Grund ist, dass bei der E-Gear-Schaltung auf Kundenwunsch das Einkuppeln entschärft wurde. Kunden der ersten Exemplare hatten sich darüber beschwert, dass der Gallardo E-Gear zu scharf anfahren würde (was suchen die eigentlich in einem Lamborghini ?!). Als Reaktion programmierte man das E-Gear so um, dass die Kupplung nun beim Anfahren stark schleift. Das muss man im "technisch rückständigen", handgeschalteten Gallardo nicht hinnehmen, sondern kann die Kupplung beim Anfahren richtig reinhauen. Zukunft bedeutet eben nicht immer Fortschritt... "
This info is TRUE! And it is a reason that Gallardo(all 520hp versions) is little bit faster both in straight line and on the track in manual version then e.gear... Also manual is 5kg lighter as well but, you won't find that info in official Lambo papers...
Interesting quote
Is it taken from sportauto?Basically, they state that the new egear has a different programming, resulting in more slippage of the clutch when launching the car. While this increases comfort it does cost some performance compared to an optimal acceleration process in a car with manual transmission.
Re: Gallardo MY08
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KresoF1 said:
This become a great thread! Keep on going!
BTW, back to original topic...
Ceramic Brakes(both fronts and rears 380mm/6caliper!!) are optional from mid MY07(December 2006) and they currently cost 12.000Euro without local VAT(or Mwst).
...and now a little clue why is every Gallardo from MY2007 little bit faster as manual then e.gear!
In German(hopefully native Germans like Rossi or MKSGR will help here with translation!):
"Der Gallardo in Männerausführung, also mit manueller Handschaltung, kann unter kundiger Hand eine Idee schneller als die E-Gear-Variante beschleunigen (siehe Test des baugleichen 2005er Gallardo SE E-Gear). Der Grund ist, dass bei der E-Gear-Schaltung auf Kundenwunsch das Einkuppeln entschärft wurde. Kunden der ersten Exemplare hatten sich darüber beschwert, dass der Gallardo E-Gear zu scharf anfahren würde (was suchen die eigentlich in einem Lamborghini ?!). Als Reaktion programmierte man das E-Gear so um, dass die Kupplung nun beim Anfahren stark schleift. Das muss man im "technisch rückständigen", handgeschalteten Gallardo nicht hinnehmen, sondern kann die Kupplung beim Anfahren richtig reinhauen. Zukunft bedeutet eben nicht immer Fortschritt... "
This info is TRUE! And it is a reason that Gallardo(all 520hp versions) is little bit faster both in straight line and on the track in manual version then e.gear... Also manual is 5kg lighter as well but, you won't find that info in official Lambo papers...
Okay, here is my BabelCrash translation (with some creative liberties taken):
The Gallado "Manly edition", meaning manual gearbox, can, with a good driver, accelerate a bit faster than than the E-Gear variant (see the 2005 test of an identical Gallardo SE E-Gear). The reason for this is the fact, that the clutch engagement was set more aggressively at the request of customers. This lead to the first delivered cars being criticized by customers for driving too roughly (what the heck did they expect from a Lambo, anyway?). The solution to the problem was to program the E-Gear to introduce heavy clutch slippage during acceleration. This is something that doesn't need to be taken into account with the "technologically inferior" manual version, as you can really slam the clutch when accelerating. After all, the future doesn't always mean progress.
Re: Gallardo MY08
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MKSGR said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:
This become a great thread! Keep on going!
BTW, back to original topic...
Ceramic Brakes(both fronts and rears 380mm/6caliper!!) are optional from mid MY07(December 2006) and they currently cost 12.000Euro without local VAT(or Mwst).
...and now a little clue why is every Gallardo from MY2007 little bit faster as manual then e.gear!
In German(hopefully native Germans like Rossi or MKSGR will help here with translation!):
"Der Gallardo in Männerausführung, also mit manueller Handschaltung, kann unter kundiger Hand eine Idee schneller als die E-Gear-Variante beschleunigen (siehe Test des baugleichen 2005er Gallardo SE E-Gear). Der Grund ist, dass bei der E-Gear-Schaltung auf Kundenwunsch das Einkuppeln entschärft wurde. Kunden der ersten Exemplare hatten sich darüber beschwert, dass der Gallardo E-Gear zu scharf anfahren würde (was suchen die eigentlich in einem Lamborghini ?!). Als Reaktion programmierte man das E-Gear so um, dass die Kupplung nun beim Anfahren stark schleift. Das muss man im "technisch rückständigen", handgeschalteten Gallardo nicht hinnehmen, sondern kann die Kupplung beim Anfahren richtig reinhauen. Zukunft bedeutet eben nicht immer Fortschritt... "
This info is TRUE! And it is a reason that Gallardo(all 520hp versions) is little bit faster both in straight line and on the track in manual version then e.gear... Also manual is 5kg lighter as well but, you won't find that info in official Lambo papers...
Interesting quote
Basically, they state that the new egear has a different programming, resulting in more slippage of the clutch when launching the car. While this increases comfort it does cost some performance compared to an optimal acceleration process in a car with manual transmission.
Oops! Beat me to it
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Re: Gallardo MY08
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MKSGR said:Quote:
dhayek said:Quote:
MKSGR said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:
IMHO your Gallardo look much better then your 997 turbo...
And it is also faster on any race track...
Having driven the Gallardo now I must agree: the 997TT has only one advantage over the Gallardo: its modest design. Otherwise, the Gallardo (the SL in particular) is simply superior in each and every category
modest design is an advantage?
Only in Germany, I guess...
Unfortunately, yes...
Re: Gallardo MY08
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dhayek said:Quote:
Rossi said:Quote:
MAVERICK said:Quote:
dhayek said:
and let be me honest here, for some people i may be called a poseur, fine , i assume it ;
I like a self-proclaimed poseur who is not afraid to embrace his personality.
When do we get to see a music video showing us your talent?
Yeah, with all the chicks (that gave him their phone number) dancing in the background!
stefan , i admitted that for some i might be called a poseur , not a porno star!
Ah, c'mon, we all know better than that, there's no sense in denying Dimitri...
(Dimitri, the bull of Beirut...)
Re: Gallardo MY08
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KresoF1 said:
Ceramic Brakes(both fronts and rears 380mm/6caliper!!) are optional from mid MY07(December 2006) and they currently cost 12.000Euro without local VAT(or Mwst).
Thanks for the information. Imho, the MY07 G and G spyder seem to be the overall best sports cars at present. Performance, sound, gearbox and brakes choice, design, reliability, active and passive safety, all-weather capability, size, price, colors, German-Italian genes. What more could anyone ask?
Re: Gallardo MY08
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Rossi said:Quote:
dhayek said:Quote:
Rossi said:Quote:
MAVERICK said:Quote:
dhayek said:
and let be me honest here, for some people i may be called a poseur, fine , i assume it ;
I like a self-proclaimed poseur who is not afraid to embrace his personality.
When do we get to see a music video showing us your talent?
Yeah, with all the chicks (that gave him their phone number) dancing in the background!
stefan , i admitted that for some i might be called a poseur , not a porno star!
Ah, c'mon, we all know better than that, there's no sense in denying Dimitri...
(Dimitri, the bull of Beirut...)
ROFL.. what's next for me stefan? weapon dealer? drug dealer?
Re: Gallardo MY08
Really an interesting thread....
Thank you, I learn more and more about this marvelous car and it's evolution, from your first hand experience...
I have to clap dhayeck's attitude: He's sincere. I have to agree, the best ratio "Sport car-"success"" , is in favour the Gallardo! (Specially Spyder)
But please allow me a stupid comment: This BULL is SO SO nice in ANY colour or combo. Her/His lines are so pure, that no matter the colours...I'd only could express such oppinion refering to the the Vantage ( Yesterday I saw one in peral white....uncommon, but ufff, simply magnificent).
If I had to buy a Gallardo (and the idea disturbs me every night), I'd ask the dealer to give me any colour: the first available. It's gorgeous at green, white, orange, any grey....
The only one I'd have some difficulty to accept (my sight is old and tyred) is in red..., je, je,...I'd hardly accept it (Not with a Countach)...
Thank you, I learn more and more about this marvelous car and it's evolution, from your first hand experience...
I have to clap dhayeck's attitude: He's sincere. I have to agree, the best ratio "Sport car-"success"" , is in favour the Gallardo! (Specially Spyder)
But please allow me a stupid comment: This BULL is SO SO nice in ANY colour or combo. Her/His lines are so pure, that no matter the colours...I'd only could express such oppinion refering to the the Vantage ( Yesterday I saw one in peral white....uncommon, but ufff, simply magnificent).
If I had to buy a Gallardo (and the idea disturbs me every night), I'd ask the dealer to give me any colour: the first available. It's gorgeous at green, white, orange, any grey....
The only one I'd have some difficulty to accept (my sight is old and tyred) is in red..., je, je,...I'd hardly accept it (Not with a Countach)...
Re: Gallardo MY08
Quote:
KresoF1 said:
This become a great thread! Keep on going!
BTW, back to original topic...
Ceramic Brakes(both fronts and rears 380mm/6caliper!!) are optional from mid MY07(December 2006) and they currently cost 12.000Euro without local VAT(or Mwst).
...and now a little clue why is every Gallardo from MY2007 little bit faster as manual then e.gear!
In German(hopefully native Germans like Rossi or MKSGR will help here with translation!):
"Der Gallardo in Männerausführung, also mit manueller Handschaltung, kann unter kundiger Hand eine Idee schneller als die E-Gear-Variante beschleunigen (siehe Test des baugleichen 2005er Gallardo SE E-Gear). Der Grund ist, dass bei der E-Gear-Schaltung auf Kundenwunsch das Einkuppeln entschärft wurde. Kunden der ersten Exemplare hatten sich darüber beschwert, dass der Gallardo E-Gear zu scharf anfahren würde (was suchen die eigentlich in einem Lamborghini ?!). Als Reaktion programmierte man das E-Gear so um, dass die Kupplung nun beim Anfahren stark schleift. Das muss man im "technisch rückständigen", handgeschalteten Gallardo nicht hinnehmen, sondern kann die Kupplung beim Anfahren richtig reinhauen. Zukunft bedeutet eben nicht immer Fortschritt... "
This info is TRUE! And it is a reason that Gallardo(all 520hp versions) is little bit faster both in straight line and on the track in manual version then e.gear... Also manual is 5kg lighter as well but, you won't find that info in official Lambo papers...
Speaking of the ceramic brakes for the G - I have already seen 2 G's here with ceramics. Looks great
Re: Gallardo MY08
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KresoF1 said:
New Standard Items
- Trip computer and heated mirrors are now standard
- USB interface (for memory card) is standard and a CD changer is a zero cost option
- Tire Pressure Measurement is standard
Some new options
- Ipod interface & Premium Audio System
- White side indicators (sic!)
- Black colored exhaust pipes
- Callisto Black colored rims
- Cordelia rims
- Q-citura interior (bi-color quilted interior
...and some new colors(metallics).
Kreso,is this a .pdf file?where I can download it?thanks
Re: Gallardo MY08
Not a pdf, just a new options for new MY08(from week 22/2007). There wont be any power upgrade on Gallardo till MY09.
New base price in Europe is 135.000Euro(without local VAT).
Prices for new options:
Ipod interface 600Euro
Premium Audio System 1500Euro
White side indicators 200Euro
Black colored exhaust pipes 350Euro
Callisto Black colored rims 3500Euro
Cordelia rims 4000Euro
Q-citura 2000Euro
...and some options are little bit more expensive.
New base price in Europe is 135.000Euro(without local VAT).
Prices for new options:
Ipod interface 600Euro
Premium Audio System 1500Euro
White side indicators 200Euro
Black colored exhaust pipes 350Euro
Callisto Black colored rims 3500Euro
Cordelia rims 4000Euro
Q-citura 2000Euro
...and some options are little bit more expensive.
Re: Gallardo MY08
Saturday, i went to the mall where they have a well regarded auto detailer in the garage. On the way in they had a yellow Murcielago and on my way out they had a black winged diablo. I also saw a yellow 575 on the way there plus a lot of 911's.
The best looking lambo is a murci in all black.
The best looking lambo is a murci in all black.
Re: Gallardo MY08
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KresoF1 said:
Not a pdf, just a new options for new MY08(from week 22/2007). There wont be any power upgrade on Gallardo till MY09.
New base price in Europe is 135.000Euro(without local VAT).
Prices for new options:
Ipod interface 600Euro
Premium Audio System 1500Euro
White side indicators 200Euro
Black colored exhaust pipes 350Euro
Callisto Black colored rims 3500Euro
Cordelia rims 4000Euro
Q-citura 2000Euro
...and some options are little bit more expensive.
So with this new base price, the Gallardo becomes more expensive than the F430 again.
Speaking about more expensive options, how much are the carbon-ceramic-brakes now, Kreso?
Re: Gallardo MY08
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KresoF1 said:
Stefan,
Ceramic Brakes(380mm/6caliper both fronts and rears!!) 12000Euro(without local VAT)
So, expensive... BUT, these are the biggest in the class!
12k would be 14.280 Euro including VAT in Germany. I always thought Lamborghini's carbon-ceramic brakes sell for around 11k?
Anyway, they are still cheaper than the Ferrari counterpart...
Re: Gallardo MY08
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Rossi said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:
Stefan,
Ceramic Brakes(380mm/6caliper both fronts and rears!!) 12000Euro(without local VAT)
So, expensive... BUT, these are the biggest in the class!
12k would be 14.280 Euro including VAT in Germany. I always thought Lamborghini's carbon-ceramic brakes sell for around 11k?
Anyway, they are still cheaper than the Ferrari counterpart...
I have also noticed a price increase. A few months back we had a discussion here about lp640 CCB costing roughly 10K euros as opposed to about 15K euros in case of the F430/Ferrari.
Today I re-checked the pricing in the Czech republic and here is the result :
LP640 CCB - 12500 euros up from about 10200
Gallardo CCB - 12000 euro as Kreso says
Re: Gallardo MY08
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MAVERICK said:
What about the ceramics? How do they feel compared to the iron version?
Well... This Gallardo Ceramics use pretty hard pads so, they have hard pedal feel on cold brakes. Also when cold you have a few milimetars of nothing then brakes could feel even over servoassisted. BUT, when warm they are amazing! Powerfull, consisten pedal feel and with shortest braking distance of all sportscars. Also they will use little bit softer pads from MY08...
IMHO they are not a must(specially for US buyer with speed limits) but, I would order them in a second!
Re: Gallardo MY08
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KresoF1 said:Quote:
MAVERICK said:
What about the ceramics? How do they feel compared to the iron version?
Well... This Gallardo Ceramics use pretty hard pads so, they have hard pedal feel on cold brakes. Also when cold you have a few milimetars of nothing then brakes could feel even over servoassisted. BUT, when warm they are amazing! Powerfull, consisten pedal feel and with shortest braking distance of all sportscars. Also they will use little bit softer pads from MY08...
IMHO they are not a must(specially for US buyer with speed limits) but, I would order them in a second!
Thank you. What is the cold and warm pedal feel and travel for the iron version?
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