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Mar 26, 2007 9:28:13 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: elysium

Re: LP640 vs 599

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elysium said:
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Crash said:
Really, the car is meant to be a GT, so it's quieter and more refined. Performance is exactly the same between the two cars, so AWD isn't a true advantage.

More of a question than a statement on my behalf: I haven't heard the lp640 in real life yet, but from what I've heard of the standard murcielago and the 599, I'm actually not sure the 599 is more quiet.. Both are very quiet at idle, and the 599 also sounds like when being accelerated . Anyone

Well, I've heard the standard Murci and the 599 and didn't really find there to be an appreciable difference (note that I didn't hear them at the same time). However, I thought I heard that the LP640 was louder than the old one

. In any case, the 599 is loud enough for me and I don't see why anybody would want a louder car for trips lasting over 20 minutes

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Mar 26, 2007 9:53:32 PM

VGA18: Veteran; Loc: Istanbul and Tampa; Posts: 1029, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2006; Reply to: Crash

Re: LP640 vs 599

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Crash said:
I don't see why anybody would want a louder car for trips lasting over 20 minutes .

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Mar 26, 2007 9:58:01 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: VGA18

Re: LP640 vs 599

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VGA18 said:

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Crash said:
I don't see why anybody would want a louder car for trips lasting over 20 minutes .

Okay, Caghan, I don't know why ALMOST anyone would want it

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Mar 26, 2007 10:04:23 PM

VGA18: Veteran; Loc: Istanbul and Tampa; Posts: 1029, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2006; Reply to: Crash

Re: LP640 vs 599

Yeah maybe i seem optimistic but Crash you are right.

Especially the trips which takes least 1 hour makes real annoying. I turn off radio when i have trip(autobahn). If the radio sound and engine sound mixed it makes me crazy and aggressive which i hate to be

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Mar 27, 2007 2:43:22 AM

Hurst: Veteran; Loc: Potomac, MD; Posts: 1255, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 15, 2005; Reply to: VGA18

Re: LP640 vs 599

What the 599 does to the soul, I can approximate from the CL63/DB9/Vanquish (albeit the performance is astronomically better).

What the LP does to the soul, you can't get from competition, save the likes of a Zonda

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Mar 27, 2007 7:02:36 AM

Mike S: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Somewhere , Taiwan; Posts: 7720, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: Alex18_996CC

Re: LP640 vs 599

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I am getting the 599 delivery December. BMW Guarnieri brought me the one they had for sale for 350k but i thought it was a bit too much. I dont know what I am going to do this summer without a sportscar and now after seeing Mikes LP I would like to get one of my own. The only edge that the 599 has over the LP is that once I am done with it after a year I am gauranteed to not lose any money on it whereas the LP I am looking at 60 to 100K

Plus I am getting the AMV8 roadster in April but I am stil undecided if I am going to keep the car trade it in for something else.

Finally!!!!!, lp640 is ahead 599

Man Lorenzo, I didnt know you already ordered the 599, CONGRATS!!!!!!!!

About the depreciation subject, that is a very good point, the 640 will probably depreciate dramatically, and 599 will even stay in its base price in some months time..

Its a very hard choice, but I would still go for the lp640....YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE !!!!, so what the hell, If I had the chance, I would do it...no matter if you loose 50k-100keuros in some ownership time......just dont get the amv8 roadster to stabilise the situation

What ever you have to do to open the garage door and see an LP640 sleeping there!!!!!

Mike, seriously!!!! is there any existant word in the dictionary to describe what feelings you have everytime you open the garage and see her !!????!!!???

Hi Lorenzo,

I'm not planning on selling the LP640 anytime soon - so resale I'm not even thinking about. Just going to enjoy the car

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Mar 27, 2007 7:04:03 AM

Mike S: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Somewhere , Taiwan; Posts: 7720, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: Crash

Re: LP640 vs 599

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Crash said:
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elysium said:
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Crash said:
Really, the car is meant to be a GT, so it's quieter and more refined. Performance is exactly the same between the two cars, so AWD isn't a true advantage.

More of a question than a statement on my behalf: I haven't heard the lp640 in real life yet, but from what I've heard of the standard murcielago and the 599, I'm actually not sure the 599 is more quiet.. Both are very quiet at idle, and the 599 also sounds like when being accelerated . Anyone

Well, I've heard the standard Murci and the 599 and didn't really find there to be an appreciable difference (note that I didn't hear them at the same time). However, I thought I heard that the LP640 was louder than the old one . In any case, the 599 is loud enough for me and I don't see why anybody would want a louder car for trips lasting over 20 minutes .

I heard a 599 drive off when I dropped the 430 off for a service. Sounds good I must admit.

The old Murci was very quiet IMO, when I drove it, it sounded like a family sedan until only very high in the RPM range. The LP640 is a total different story! At 4k RPM's I think it sounds already louder than my F430

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Mar 27, 2007 9:13:29 AM

easy_rider911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 22190, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 8, 2004; Reply to: Mike S

Re: LP640 vs 599

LP640 all the way. Driving an LP640 would be an Ernest Hemingway experience - i.e. truly living life with passion (and not a Starbucks in sight)

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Mar 27, 2007 9:15:02 AM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: Mike S

Re: LP640 vs 599

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Mike S said:
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Crash said:
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elysium said:
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Crash said:
Really, the car is meant to be a GT, so it's quieter and more refined. Performance is exactly the same between the two cars, so AWD isn't a true advantage.

More of a question than a statement on my behalf: I haven't heard the lp640 in real life yet, but from what I've heard of the standard murcielago and the 599, I'm actually not sure the 599 is more quiet.. Both are very quiet at idle, and the 599 also sounds like when being accelerated . Anyone

Well, I've heard the standard Murci and the 599 and didn't really find there to be an appreciable difference (note that I didn't hear them at the same time). However, I thought I heard that the LP640 was louder than the old one . In any case, the 599 is loud enough for me and I don't see why anybody would want a louder car for trips lasting over 20 minutes .

I heard a 599 drive off when I dropped the 430 off for a service. Sounds good I must admit.

The old Murci was very quiet IMO, when I drove it, it sounded like a family sedan until only very high in the RPM range. The LP640 is a total different story! At 4k RPM's I think it sounds already louder than my F430

What???????Louder at 4k rpm than f430????And you have still 4k rpm up.......what a beast....what a beast.....

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Mar 27, 2007 10:46:07 AM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: andrea

Re: LP640 vs 599

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andrea said:
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Mike S said:
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Crash said:
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elysium said:
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Crash said:
Really, the car is meant to be a GT, so it's quieter and more refined. Performance is exactly the same between the two cars, so AWD isn't a true advantage.

More of a question than a statement on my behalf: I haven't heard the lp640 in real life yet, but from what I've heard of the standard murcielago and the 599, I'm actually not sure the 599 is more quiet.. Both are very quiet at idle, and the 599 also sounds like when being accelerated . Anyone

Well, I've heard the standard Murci and the 599 and didn't really find there to be an appreciable difference (note that I didn't hear them at the same time). However, I thought I heard that the LP640 was louder than the old one . In any case, the 599 is loud enough for me and I don't see why anybody would want a louder car for trips lasting over 20 minutes .

I heard a 599 drive off when I dropped the 430 off for a service. Sounds good I must admit.

The old Murci was very quiet IMO, when I drove it, it sounded like a family sedan until only very high in the RPM range. The LP640 is a total different story! At 4k RPM's I think it sounds already louder than my F430

What???????Louder at 4k rpm than f430????And you have still 4k rpm up.......what a beast....what a beast.....

Indeed. Mike, I want a ride

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Mar 27, 2007 11:24:08 AM

Mike S: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Somewhere , Taiwan; Posts: 7720, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: Crash

Re: LP640 vs 599

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Crash said:
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andrea said:
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Mike S said:
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Crash said:
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elysium said:
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Crash said:
Really, the car is meant to be a GT, so it's quieter and more refined. Performance is exactly the same between the two cars, so AWD isn't a true advantage.

More of a question than a statement on my behalf: I haven't heard the lp640 in real life yet, but from what I've heard of the standard murcielago and the 599, I'm actually not sure the 599 is more quiet.. Both are very quiet at idle, and the 599 also sounds like when being accelerated . Anyone

Well, I've heard the standard Murci and the 599 and didn't really find there to be an appreciable difference (note that I didn't hear them at the same time). However, I thought I heard that the LP640 was louder than the old one . In any case, the 599 is loud enough for me and I don't see why anybody would want a louder car for trips lasting over 20 minutes .

I heard a 599 drive off when I dropped the 430 off for a service. Sounds good I must admit.

The old Murci was very quiet IMO, when I drove it, it sounded like a family sedan until only very high in the RPM range. The LP640 is a total different story! At 4k RPM's I think it sounds already louder than my F430

What???????Louder at 4k rpm than f430????And you have still 4k rpm up.......what a beast....what a beast.....

Indeed. Mike, I want a ride !

Yes, the car redlines at 8200rpm

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Mar 27, 2007 11:26:42 AM

ed_moree: Rennteam Pro; Loc: spain , China; Posts: 2407, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 15, 2005; Reply to: thuggy

Re: LP640 vs 599

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I will take the Lamborghini. The 599 is still looks too much like an italian corvette to me!

I thought the same thing about the 599 predecessor. I think top gear actually did a segment on it.

Both are dream cars, just that the LP640 is a wet dream

Totally agree to that!!!

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Mar 27, 2007 12:26:50 PM

997GT3RS: Senior; Loc: Germany; Posts: 637, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 4, 2006; Reply to: LB

Re: LP640 vs 599

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LB said:
If you had the choice which would you prefer to own

I will take the 640 WITHTOUT 4WD

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Mar 27, 2007 12:44:58 PM

ed_moree: Rennteam Pro; Loc: spain , China; Posts: 2407, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 15, 2005; Reply to: 997GT3RS

Re: LP640 vs 599

when I say that the 599 looks much too much as a corvette just look at this pics and you will understand why. Iso so easy to have a corvette looking like a 599.

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2007-Callaway-C16-based-on-Chevrolet-Corvette.htm

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Mar 27, 2007 2:14:10 PM

function_analysi: Pilot; Loc: Jeddah, Athens , Greece; Posts: 352, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 19, 2006; Reply to: LB

Re: LP640 vs 599

I've driven recently the 599. Although I hate Ferraris

(no in-depth argumentation here) the 599 turned out to be the quickest feeling softener machine, at least for my own feelings. Imagine what the effect would be in case I loved the Ferraris.

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Mar 27, 2007 2:40:29 PM

997GT3RS: Senior; Loc: Germany; Posts: 637, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 4, 2006; Reply to: function_analysi

Re: LP640 vs 599

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function_analysi said:
I've driven recently the 599. Although I hate Ferraris (no in-depth argumentation here) the 599 turned out to be the quickest feeling softener machine, at least for my own feelings. Imagine what the effect would be in case I loved the Ferraris.

I have driven the F599, it's not the quickest feeling softener machine to me.

Maybe I miss the turbos, the SL65 was feeling faster.

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Mar 27, 2007 5:36:36 PM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: 997GT3RS

Re: LP640 vs 599

Mike,the rev limiter is at 8200rpm or 8500rpm???

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Mar 27, 2007 10:25:37 PM

dhayek: Rennteam Master; Loc: Beirut , Lebanon; Posts: 3839, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 7, 2004; Reply to: andrea

Re: LP640 vs 599

the lp640 is simply orgasmic from all points of view.. the 599 is an amazing car , but its simply invisible next to an lp..

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Mar 28, 2007 3:56:36 AM

Mike S: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Somewhere , Taiwan; Posts: 7720, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: andrea

Re: LP640 vs 599

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andrea said:
Mike,the rev limiter is at 8200rpm or 8500rpm???

redline is at 8200-8300 but the limiter normally kicks in a little after you're in the red in most cars. So probably 8500 limiter.

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Mar 28, 2007 4:25:11 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12681, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: andrea

Re: LP640 vs 599

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andrea said:
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Mike S said:
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Crash said:
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elysium said:
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Crash said:
Really, the car is meant to be a GT, so it's quieter and more refined. Performance is exactly the same between the two cars, so AWD isn't a true advantage.

More of a question than a statement on my behalf: I haven't heard the lp640 in real life yet, but from what I've heard of the standard murcielago and the 599, I'm actually not sure the 599 is more quiet.. Both are very quiet at idle, and the 599 also sounds like when being accelerated . Anyone

Well, I've heard the standard Murci and the 599 and didn't really find there to be an appreciable difference (note that I didn't hear them at the same time). However, I thought I heard that the LP640 was louder than the old one . In any case, the 599 is loud enough for me and I don't see why anybody would want a louder car for trips lasting over 20 minutes .

I heard a 599 drive off when I dropped the 430 off for a service. Sounds good I must admit.

The old Murci was very quiet IMO, when I drove it, it sounded like a family sedan until only very high in the RPM range. The LP640 is a total different story! At 4k RPM's I think it sounds already louder than my F430

What???????Louder at 4k rpm than f430????And you have still 4k rpm up.......what a beast....what a beast.....

YOU MUST YELL LOUDER, MIKE HAS GOT SOME PROBLEMS WITH HIS EARS LATELY...

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Mar 28, 2007 4:26:06 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12681, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: function_analysi

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function_analysi said: Imagine what the effect would be in case I loved the Ferraris.

I don't even dare...

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Mar 28, 2007 4:28:52 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12681, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: dhayek

Re: LP640 vs 599

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dhayek said:
the lp640 is simply orgasmic from all points of view.. the 599 is an amazing car , but its simply invisible next to an lp..

Different strokes for different folks.

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Mar 28, 2007 9:46:37 AM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: Mike S

Re: LP640 vs 599

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Mike S said:
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andrea said:
Mike,the rev limiter is at 8200rpm or 8500rpm???

redline is at 8200-8300 but the limiter normally kicks in a little after you're in the red in most cars. So probably 8500 limiter.

Thanks,i've read on a mag that power max is at 8000rpm and the rev lim is 500rpm above

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Mar 28, 2007 3:25:47 PM

Mike S: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Somewhere , Taiwan; Posts: 7720, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: andrea

Re: LP640 vs 599

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andrea said:
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Mike S said:
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andrea said:
Mike,the rev limiter is at 8200rpm or 8500rpm???

redline is at 8200-8300 but the limiter normally kicks in a little after you're in the red in most cars. So probably 8500 limiter.

Thanks,i've read on a mag that power max is at 8000rpm and the rev lim is 500rpm above

That extra 500rpm can do wonders on a very very long straight downhill

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Mar 28, 2007 3:40:16 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: Mike S

Re: LP640 vs 599

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Mike S said:
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andrea said:
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Mike S said:
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andrea said:
Mike,the rev limiter is at 8200rpm or 8500rpm???

redline is at 8200-8300 but the limiter normally kicks in a little after you're in the red in most cars. So probably 8500 limiter.

Thanks,i've read on a mag that power max is at 8000rpm and the rev lim is 500rpm above

That extra 500rpm can do wonders on a very very long straight downhill

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