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Feb 26, 2007 8:15:15 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: Rossi

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

...and do not forget that rear wing that was on LP640 for Sport Auto Supertest is also not a standard item.

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Feb 26, 2007 8:22:35 AM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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KresoF1 said:
...and do not forget that rear wing that was on LP640 for Sport Auto Supertest is also not a standard item.

If some OEMs spent as much time to properly prepare their cars for their customers as they spend for the press preparations...

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Feb 26, 2007 8:25:36 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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MKSGR said:
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KresoF1 said:
...and do not forget that rear wing that was on LP640 for Sport Auto Supertest is also not a standard item.

If some OEMs spent as much time to properly prepare their cars for their customers as they spend for the press preparations...

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Feb 26, 2007 8:44:11 AM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: Mike S

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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Mike S said:
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andrea said:
spy-info said that Murci has different exhaust from the AMS test,you can see the difference at 130km/h,now 81db(ex 79) and max db 105.5
The 0-200km/h is a lot faster than in AMS site.
This Lambo has 690hp

Hi andrea,

Are you saying this car has 50+hp because it might have an aftermarket or tweaked exhaust system...

Exactly

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Feb 26, 2007 8:48:56 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: andrea

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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andrea said:
Quote:
Mike S said:
Quote:
andrea said:
spy-info said that Murci has different exhaust from the AMS test,you can see the difference at 130km/h,now 81db(ex 79) and max db 105.5
The 0-200km/h is a lot faster than in AMS site.
This Lambo has 690hp

Hi andrea,

Are you saying this car has 50+hp because it might have an aftermarket or tweaked exhaust system...

Exactly

Well, now I think Mike wants one.

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Feb 26, 2007 8:54:35 AM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: Rossi

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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Rossi said:
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andrea said:
Quote:
Mike S said:
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andrea said:
spy-info said that Murci has different exhaust from the AMS test,you can see the difference at 130km/h,now 81db(ex 79) and max db 105.5
The 0-200km/h is a lot faster than in AMS site.
This Lambo has 690hp

Hi andrea,

Are you saying this car has 50+hp because it might have an aftermarket or tweaked exhaust system...

Exactly

Well, now I think Mike wants one.

Are these 50hp+ exhaust systems also available for the 599GTB

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Feb 26, 2007 10:14:08 AM

Mike S: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Somewhere , Taiwan; Posts: 7720, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: Rossi

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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Rossi said:
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andrea said:
Quote:
Mike S said:
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andrea said:
spy-info said that Murci has different exhaust from the AMS test,you can see the difference at 130km/h,now 81db(ex 79) and max db 105.5
The 0-200km/h is a lot faster than in AMS site.
This Lambo has 690hp

Hi andrea,

Are you saying this car has 50+hp because it might have an aftermarket or tweaked exhaust system...

Exactly

Well, now I think Mike wants one.

Was just wondering, it is impossible if it is purely just an exhaust system to get 50hp!

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Feb 26, 2007 11:02:36 AM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: Mike S

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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Mike S said:
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Rossi said:
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andrea said:
Quote:
Mike S said:
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andrea said:
spy-info said that Murci has different exhaust from the AMS test,you can see the difference at 130km/h,now 81db(ex 79) and max db 105.5
The 0-200km/h is a lot faster than in AMS site.
This Lambo has 690hp

Hi andrea,

Are you saying this car has 50+hp because it might have an aftermarket or tweaked exhaust system...

Exactly

Well, now I think Mike wants one.

Was just wondering, it is impossible if it is purely just an exhaust system to get 50hp!

I seem to remember hearing several people on Lambo boards boast about huge gains from bigger exhausts. After all, the engine does have 6,5 litres.

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Feb 26, 2007 1:19:07 PM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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MKSGR said:
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Rossi said:
Quote:
andrea said:
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Mike S said:
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andrea said:
spy-info said that Murci has different exhaust from the AMS test,you can see the difference at 130km/h,now 81db(ex 79) and max db 105.5
The 0-200km/h is a lot faster than in AMS site.
This Lambo has 690hp

Hi andrea,

Are you saying this car has 50+hp because it might have an aftermarket or tweaked exhaust system...

Exactly

Well, now I think Mike wants one.

Are these 50hp+ exhaust systems also available for the 599GTB

So why do you ask?

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Feb 26, 2007 2:25:04 PM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

Are these 50hp+ exhaust systems also available for the 599GTB

I know for sure that on f430 you can ask(paying) to ferrari for more power by new ehaust and new ecu that ensure 540hp plus 45nm at 5300.The exhaust is not homologated but there is still the guarantee by ferrari.Only with the exhaust you have 37hp. I think they could do something also for 599

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Feb 26, 2007 3:07:22 PM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: andrea

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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andrea said:
Are these 50hp+ exhaust systems also available for the 599GTB

I know for sure that on f430 you can ask(paying) to ferrari for more power by new ehaust and new ecu that ensure 540hp plus 45nm at 5300.The exhaust is not homologated but there is still the guarantee by ferrari.Only with the exhaust you have 37hp. I think they could do something also for 599

Some more info please!

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Feb 26, 2007 3:45:48 PM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: Rossi

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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Rossi said:
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andrea said:
Are these 50hp+ exhaust systems also available for the 599GTB

I know for sure that on f430 you can ask(paying) to ferrari for more power by new ehaust and new ecu that ensure 540hp plus 45nm at 5300.The exhaust is not homologated but there is still the guarantee by ferrari.Only with the exhaust you have 37hp. I think they could do something also for 599

Some more info please!

I will try

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Feb 26, 2007 4:17:06 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: andrea

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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andrea said:
Are these 50hp+ exhaust systems also available for the 599GTB

I know for sure that on f430 you can ask(paying) to ferrari for more power by new ehaust and new ecu that ensure 540hp plus 45nm at 5300.The exhaust is not homologated but there is still the guarantee by ferrari.Only with the exhaust you have 37hp. I think they could do something also for 599

Very interesting, many thanks

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Feb 26, 2007 5:09:04 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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MKSGR said:
Quote:
andrea said:
Are these 50hp+ exhaust systems also available for the 599GTB

I know for sure that on f430 you can ask(paying) to ferrari for more power by new ehaust and new ecu that ensure 540hp plus 45nm at 5300.The exhaust is not homologated but there is still the guarantee by ferrari.Only with the exhaust you have 37hp. I think they could do something also for 599

Very interesting, many thanks

Hmmm... Markus, maybe you should ask what they have to offer for your 599

.

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Feb 26, 2007 6:21:09 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: Crash

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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Crash said:
Quote:
MKSGR said:
Quote:
andrea said:
Are these 50hp+ exhaust systems also available for the 599GTB

I know for sure that on f430 you can ask(paying) to ferrari for more power by new ehaust and new ecu that ensure 540hp plus 45nm at 5300.The exhaust is not homologated but there is still the guarantee by ferrari.Only with the exhaust you have 37hp. I think they could do something also for 599

Very interesting, many thanks

Hmmm... Markus, maybe you should ask what they have to offer for your 599

.

Unfortunately, my dealer claims that he has never heard anything about semi-official tuning by the factory

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Feb 26, 2007 6:27:11 PM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

Here the tests on 2006.Something is changed now....

Test in ams 18/2006 (this murci has the same plate of quattroruote test DC145XN)

Gewicht 1843 kg
0 - 80 km/h 2,9 s
0 - 100 km/h 3,8 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,1 s
0 - 130 km/h 5,7 s
0 - 140 km/h 6,3 s
0 - 160 km/h 8,3 s
0 - 180 km/h 10,1 s
0 - 200 km/h 12,1 s
0 - 250 km/h - s
400 m, stehender Start 11,9 s

Highspeed Test in ams 23/2006
Gewicht - kg
0 - 80 km/h - s
0 - 100 km/h 3,4 s
0 - 120 km/h - s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h - s
0 - 160 km/h - s
0 - 180 km/h - s
0 - 200 km/h 11,2 s
0 - 250 km/h 17,7 s
0 - 300 km/h 31,8 s

Test in Auto Zeitung Jahrbuch 2007
Gewicht 1839 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,1 s
0 - 100 km/h 3,8 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,1 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 6,3 s
0 - 160 km/h 8,2 s
0 - 180 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 200 km/h 12,0 s

Test in Auto Bild sportscars 01/2007
Gewicht (1665) kg
0 - 80 km/h - s
0 - 100 km/h 3,3 s
0 - 120 km/h - s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h - s
0 - 160 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 180 km/h - s
0 - 200 km/h 11,1 s
0 - 250 km/h 18,5 s
0 - 300 km/h 33,3 s

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Feb 26, 2007 6:28:23 PM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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MKSGR said:
Quote:
Crash said:
Quote:
MKSGR said:
Quote:
andrea said:
Are these 50hp+ exhaust systems also available for the 599GTB

I know for sure that on f430 you can ask(paying) to ferrari for more power by new ehaust and new ecu that ensure 540hp plus 45nm at 5300.The exhaust is not homologated but there is still the guarantee by ferrari.Only with the exhaust you have 37hp. I think they could do something also for 599

Very interesting, many thanks

Hmmm... Markus, maybe you should ask what they have to offer for your 599 .

Unfortunately, my dealer claims that he has never heard anything about semi-official tuning by the factory

Believe me or not it's true

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Feb 26, 2007 6:47:26 PM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

Quote:
MKSGR said:
Quote:
Crash said:
Quote:
MKSGR said:
Quote:
andrea said:
Are these 50hp+ exhaust systems also available for the 599GTB

I know for sure that on f430 you can ask(paying) to ferrari for more power by new ehaust and new ecu that ensure 540hp plus 45nm at 5300.The exhaust is not homologated but there is still the guarantee by ferrari.Only with the exhaust you have 37hp. I think they could do something also for 599

Very interesting, many thanks

Hmmm... Markus, maybe you should ask what they have to offer for your 599 .

Unfortunately, my dealer claims that he has never heard anything about semi-official tuning by the factory

Michelotto?

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Feb 26, 2007 7:47:59 PM

dhayek: Rennteam Master; Loc: Beirut , Lebanon; Posts: 3839, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 7, 2004; Reply to: Rossi

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

i also think 50 hp from just an exhaust is too optimistic...

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Feb 27, 2007 10:24:16 AM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: dhayek

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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dhayek said:
i also think 50 hp from just an exhaust is too optimistic...

keep in mind that from F430's 4.3l you can extract 37hp....think on the 6.5l.....

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Feb 27, 2007 4:03:59 PM

Futch: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: EU , United Kingdom; Posts: 4759, Gallery; Registered on: May 14, 2002; Reply to: andrea

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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andrea said:
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dhayek said:
i also think 50 hp from just an exhaust is too optimistic...

keep in mind that from F430's 4.3l you can extract 37hp....think on the 6.5l.....

Very interesting news.
Just got off the phone with a Ferrari rep in Maranello as I am very interested about this for my 599.
The told me it is complete BS and not to believe everything I read on the internet.
Andrea,
Please pm the name of your contact at Ferrari for this hp increase.
Thanks in advance.

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Feb 27, 2007 4:12:50 PM

VGA18: Veteran; Loc: Istanbul and Tampa; Posts: 1029, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2006; Reply to: andrea

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

Hamann claims +28hp gain both Hamann muffler and sport catalyst for Gallardo. However some friend at Lambo boards get about +35hp with both cats delete, sport muffler and also gruppe m intakes. +50 hp gain only with exhaust mod sounds a bit optimistic to me.

For the first tests i think the car has not broken yet and these bad results occured.

Here sport auto test also

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Feb 27, 2007 4:20:04 PM

Mike S: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Somewhere , Taiwan; Posts: 7720, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: VGA18

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Why did they give them a Lambo with a wing to test?

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Feb 27, 2007 4:38:15 PM

VGA18: Veteran; Loc: Istanbul and Tampa; Posts: 1029, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2006; Reply to: Mike S

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

Mike dunno why but this might be a factory option for Murcie.

Did you remember the threads and polls about " Does Murcie need wing? and How does wong look like on Murcie"

If i were attend to buy LP i think i wouldnt prefer wing option.

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Feb 27, 2007 8:01:33 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: Mike S

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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Mike S said:
Why did they give them a Lambo with a wing to test?

Faster NBR lap time with the wing, I guess

P.S.: I am sure that it is no coincidence that the first LP640 with a wing is the test car for the SuperTest...

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Feb 27, 2007 8:04:13 PM

Mike S: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Somewhere , Taiwan; Posts: 7720, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: VGA18

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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VGA18 said:
Mike dunno why but this might be a factory option for Murcie.

Did you remember the threads and polls about " Does Murcie need wing? and How does wong look like on Murcie"

If i were attend to buy LP i think i wouldnt prefer wing option.

I prefer the wingless look!

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Feb 28, 2007 8:21:09 AM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: Mike S

Re: Another LP 640 test (Numbers are amazing!!)

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Mike S said:
Why did they give them a Lambo with a wing to test?

Also in 4ruote's test has the same wing

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Feb 28, 2007 6:03:36 PM

dhayek: Rennteam Master; Loc: Beirut , Lebanon; Posts: 3839, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 7, 2004; Reply to: andrea

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the wing looks nasty, i would never order it. i think its a new factory option, a nasty one..

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