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VKSF said:
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MKSGR said:
Although I don't know whether anybody is interested at all ...
...I will post some test results of the Audi A8 W12 (short wheel base). The test was done with a regular production car (my own car ) on a German AB this afternoon.
The results of my test are:
0-100: 5.1s (factory claim)
0-200: ca. 16.5s
0-250: ca. 33.0s (vs. 21s for 997TT )
Given the car's weight and character as a luxurious limousine the figures are not that bad
Are these w/winter tires? Any guess on what diffce is btwn winter and summer tires in terms of accel times?
Would be curious what are 60-100 and 100-200kph times, esp vs S550 4Matic .....personally, find easily deployable elasticity of any car (while one is on speakerphone; in wrong gear; late for a mtg; and navigating gaps in dense urban fwy/AB traffic) far more relevant to real world than 0-xxx times, esp w/commuter cars....
Would also be curious how those in more inclement climates than CA find A8 W12 vs S550 4Matic in terms of active/passive safety, esp traction, wet weather braking, emgcy evasive handling at high speeds and latest-tech passive safety systems (i.e., how seemingly advcd and confidence-inspiring are MB's latest safety systems vs Audi's?) ....after all, sedans are more about safety than are "passionate", more wkend and fair-weather-oriented cars like 599, right????
The test was done on winter tires. However, they are the same size as my summer tires, thus I would not expect different results on summer tires.
The S550 is slightly slower. Interestingly, the S63 / CL63 should not be faster either, given the latest test results in the German press. Mercedes should really offer AWD for their CL65 / S65. Until then the Audi is the fastest AWD luxury limousine available on the market.
Even better the car has very similar acceleration in the dry and wet. Just press the accelerator and the car shoots like hell
I will always go for AWD in this car segment in the future.
In general, the S-Mercedes should be the more comfortable car. The W12 SWB has a pretty sporty suspension setup. Tough ride - but remarkable handling for such a big car. In combination with CCB brakes, AWD, the excellent throttle response, very good steering and other goodies (I am thinking of the excellent B&O sound system) the W12 is a remarkable achievment of engineering
In terms of safety standards I would not see a major advantage for the S class. Passive safety should be close to identical. The S class, however, does have this new pre-crash feature. That should be the only major difference between the two cars