Aug 3, 2017 2:23:18 PM
SportCarGroup:Does the new GT2RS use the same VTG chargers as 991 Turbo / S?
They will be different in some way since the Turbo S ones can run to 607PS in the Turbo SE, 700PS will require greater flow.
It is probable they use the same hot side and they will likely have larger compressor side, at the very least a larger compressor wheel.
997 GT2 2014 3.9 Mezger, 800PS @ 1.2 bar
993 Turbo, 2006 built 3.8, 577PS/797NM, 1440kg DIN
Aug 3, 2017 5:54:24 PM
TB993tt:SportCarGroup:Does the new GT2RS use the same VTG chargers as 991 Turbo / S?
They will be different in some way since the Turbo S ones can run to 607PS in the Turbo SE, 700PS will require greater flow.
It is probable they use the same hot side and they will likely have larger compressor side, at the very least a larger compressor wheel.
Many thanks
Boyko23:There is a rumour on RL about the Ring laptime:
Trofeo R - 6:47;
MPSC 2 - 6:53
Announcement at the beginning of September...
Someone in the know to confirm or deny?
Weird when Porsche is not officially doing the Ring attempt until Sept.
Whatever people have recorded would be testing times.
Aug 8, 2017 2:47:29 PM
Whoopsy:Boyko23:There is a rumour on RL about the Ring laptime:
Trofeo R - 6:47;
MPSC 2 - 6:53
Announcement at the beginning of September...
Someone in the know to confirm or deny?
Weird when Porsche is not officially doing the Ring attempt until Sept.
Whatever people have recorded would be testing times.
It looks like Porsche are testing the GT2 RS at the Nurburgring...
Video Link: https://youtu.be/qJ9ucHFFVEg
Aug 8, 2017 3:14:29 PM
Boxster Coupe GTS:Whoopsy:Boyko23:There is a rumour on RL about the Ring laptime:
Trofeo R - 6:47;
MPSC 2 - 6:53
Announcement at the beginning of September...
Someone in the know to confirm or deny?
Weird when Porsche is not officially doing the Ring attempt until Sept.
Whatever people have recorded would be testing times.
It looks like Porsche are testing the GT2 RS at the Nurburgring...
Video Link: https://youtu.be/qJ9ucHFFVEg
Oh yeah they are testing and tuning the car still. It was clearly stated by the GT team back in Goodwood. They don't really lock in the official production spec until after the Ring attempt in Sept then starts production in Nov 2017
Whoopsy:Boxster Coupe GTS:Whoopsy:Boyko23:There is a rumour on RL about the Ring laptime:
Trofeo R - 6:47;
MPSC 2 - 6:53
Announcement at the beginning of September...
Someone in the know to confirm or deny?
Weird when Porsche is not officially doing the Ring attempt until Sept.
Whatever people have recorded would be testing times.
It looks like Porsche are testing the GT2 RS at the Nurburgring...
Video Link: https://youtu.be/qJ9ucHFFVEg
Oh yeah they are testing and tuning the car still. It was clearly stated by the GT team back in Goodwood. They don't really lock in the official production spec until after the Ring attempt in Sept then starts production in Nov 2017
Makes sense, but why would they even bother testing with Trofeo R, if that will not be an OEM choice? Might as well try real racing slicks as well...
I assume they'll also set a time with the new Dunlops which will be a factory offering (some say they should be faster than Cup2's).
If these times represent early efforts with improvements to follow, very impressive!
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
Grant:Whoopsy:Boxster Coupe GTS:Whoopsy:Boyko23:There is a rumour on RL about the Ring laptime:
Trofeo R - 6:47;
MPSC 2 - 6:53
Announcement at the beginning of September...
Someone in the know to confirm or deny?
Weird when Porsche is not officially doing the Ring attempt until Sept.
Whatever people have recorded would be testing times.
It looks like Porsche are testing the GT2 RS at the Nurburgring...
Video Link: https://youtu.be/qJ9ucHFFVEg
Oh yeah they are testing and tuning the car still. It was clearly stated by the GT team back in Goodwood. They don't really lock in the official production spec until after the Ring attempt in Sept then starts production in Nov 2017
Makes sense, but why would they even bother testing with Trofeo R, if that will not be an OEM choice? Might as well try real racing slicks as well...
I assume they'll also set a time with the new Dunlops which will be a factory offering (some say they should be faster than Cup2's).
If these times represent early efforts with improvements to follow, very impressive!
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
Pirelli is still a Porsche supplier. Regular 911s run PZeros so they have every right to test the Pirelli tires too
But the problem with Trofeo Rs is that it doesn't last, Porsche needs to weight performance vs durability. The tires have amazing grip, much higher than the Cup2s. My buddy who tracks a GT3RS at my track switched from N1 Cup2s to Trofeo R and picked up 2 seconds right away on the same day. But those Trofeo Rs only lasted 3 days on the track, about 100 laps and they are down to cords. The N0 Cup2s on my 918 however are amazingly durable. I have over 11,000km on the car now with about 200 laps on the track. Still got about 1-2mm left before the wear bar on the rears.
At the current rate of progress, it won't be too many more years before a street-legal Porsche is faster than Stefan Bellof's 956 (almost 35 year standing NOS record of 6:11.13)...
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
Joost:throt:Sounds kack ...
You heard sound?!?
I hear a Subaru WRX with a universally fitted aftermarket low-pitched fart-can exhaust
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a) 991 Carrera GTS " Club Coupe " : painted Club Blau
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b) Carrera 4 Cabriolet : triple blue
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I have to believe that AP will address the poor exhaust system. However, I am not sure what he can do about it.
Today I drove behind a brand new TTS and I turned my radio off to listen to the exhaust. What I heard was NOTHING! Hell, my Targa was louder. Also, when I drove alongside and then in front of it, the front end looked like any other 911 and this car cost over $230,000!
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"A man wrapped up in himself makes for a very small bundle."
nberry:I have to believe that AP will address the poor exhaust system. However, I am not sure what he can do about it.
Today I drove behind a brand new TTS and I turned my radio off to listen to the exhaust. What I heard was NOTHING! Hell, my Targa was louder. Also, when I drove alongside and then in front of it, the front end looked like any other 911 and this car cost over $230,000!
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"A man wrapped up in himself makes for a very small bundle."
The turbo s is one of the very best cars on this planet. When you drive one you enjoy it every second. Just the best
nberry:Also, when I drove alongside and then in front of it, the front end looked like any other 911 and this car cost over $230,000!
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"A man wrapped up in himself makes for a very small bundle."
This is a selling point for many buyers who don't want attention...
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
Grant:nberry:Also, when I drove alongside and then in front of it, the front end looked like any other 911 and this car cost over $230,000!
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"A man wrapped up in himself makes for a very small bundle."
This is a selling point for many buyers who don't want attention...
But still one of the very best
I owned one. Great car but not very exciting. I would rather get a roomy comfortable car with some power rather than drive around in a small powerful car that doesn't excite me. You have to admit it is boring despite all its power.
"A man wrapped up in himself makes for a very small bundle."
nberry:I owned one. Great car but not very exciting. I would rather get a roomy comfortable car with some power rather than drive around in a small powerful car that doesn't excite me. You have to admit it is boring despite all its power.
the turbo (S) is one of the most expensive cars to take you from A to B, in a very fast way but without any enjoyment.
The sound of the GT2RS. #porsche #gt2rs #widowmaker
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nberry:I have to believe that AP will address the poor exhaust system. However, I am not sure what he can do about it.
There is nothing they can do about it, they already went to lengths to get it to the point it is now. VTG chargers...
Today I drove behind a brand new TTS and I turned my radio off to listen to the exhaust. What I heard was NOTHING! Hell, my Targa was louder. Also, when I drove alongside and then in front of it, the front end looked like any other 911 and this car cost over $230,000!
I agree, the Turbo S sounds like crap but I never believed Porsche when they said this is what customers want...until Markus told me and many other Turbo/S owners I met. They seem to be perfectly happy with the sound, so I guess I know now why I moved on.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
Aug 10, 2017 8:50:05 AM
RC:I agree, the Turbo S sounds like crap but I never believed Porsche when they said this is what customers want...until Markus told me and many other Turbo/S owners I met. They seem to be perfectly happy with the sound, so I guess I know now why I moved on.
Still, I don't think the lack of sound on a sportscar like the Turbo was on purpose for that reason, they simply werent able to make it better due to the VTG and used the fact that "some" customers prefer a lack of sound as an excuse, otherwise they would of simply used flaps for on / off sound and satisfy all customers.
⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS
Aug 10, 2017 8:53:57 AM
Carlos from Spain:RC:I agree, the Turbo S sounds like crap but I never believed Porsche when they said this is what customers want...until Markus told me and many other Turbo/S owners I met. They seem to be perfectly happy with the sound, so I guess I know now why I moved on.
Still, I don't think the lack of sound on a sportscar like the Turbo was on purpose for that reason, they simply werent able to make it better due to the VTG and used the fact that "some" customers prefer a lack of sound as an excuse, otherwise they would of simply used flaps for on / off sound and satisfy all customers.
I want to believe this as well but many really seem to enjoy the "stealthy" performance of the Turbo S.
Best example: We drove in a group through a city in Austria. Front car was a Turbo S. At a stop light, after it turned green, he fully accelerated (and way beyond the speed limit of 50 kph in that town). I was behind him and accelerated as well up to 50 or 55 kph and immediately received my usual middle finger and fist in the air from a young woman and an older guy. OK, group driving is always a bit provoking but that Turbo S guy was doing at least 80 when he put the foot on his brakes. Nobody cared. Best car to drive fast without being noticed.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)