Feb 6, 2007 10:39:51 PM
- boardrider
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Feb 7, 2007 12:50:37 AM
- Circe
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Re: 997 Exhaust
Generally, folks might suggest that you do a "search" under "exhaust" or "exhaust systems", etc. For some reason I can't do a search or see the results of recent polls. I think it has something to do with my browser.
Anyway, if you can, perform the search. Here (hopefully)are a few links to threads discussing the Porsche Sport Exhaust (PSE). There are some aftermarket exhaust systems out there, but I presume you would not want to risk a warranty issue with a 997S so PSE makes sense. I will be looking into PSE myself when my 997S comes out of winter hibernation in April. Hope this helps:
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=313617&an=0&page=0#313617
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=284750&an=0&page=2#284750
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=304716&an=0&page=5#304716
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=303525&an=0&page=8#303525
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=97627&page=&fpart=1&vc=1
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=151382&an=0&page=21#151382
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat...&PHPSESSID=
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat...&PHPSESSID=
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=300079&an=0&page=10#300079
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=324398
Anyway, if you can, perform the search. Here (hopefully)are a few links to threads discussing the Porsche Sport Exhaust (PSE). There are some aftermarket exhaust systems out there, but I presume you would not want to risk a warranty issue with a 997S so PSE makes sense. I will be looking into PSE myself when my 997S comes out of winter hibernation in April. Hope this helps:
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=313617&an=0&page=0#313617
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=284750&an=0&page=2#284750
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=304716&an=0&page=5#304716
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=303525&an=0&page=8#303525
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=97627&page=&fpart=1&vc=1
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=151382&an=0&page=21#151382
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat...&PHPSESSID=
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat...&PHPSESSID=
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=300079&an=0&page=10#300079
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=324398
Feb 7, 2007 7:52:59 PM
- jcs
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Re: 997 Exhaust
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boardrider said:
Circe, Thanks for the links! That was exactly what I wanted to know. I am going with a pse. Regards
Good decision.
I have it on my 997 S .You will love it .
It's the only exhaust that truly sounds like a Porsche should, and the only one which can be turned on or off , as you wish .
Feb 9, 2007 1:57:11 AM
- boardrider
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Re: 997 Exhaust
Does anyone know, when the factory installs PSE do they use the sport chrono switch to control it or do they install a separate switch just for the PSE? My local dealer is currently installing the PSE on my 997 S (with Sport Chrono) and they are new to this and they don't know the best way to hook it up! Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Griff Snyder
Thanks Griff Snyder
Feb 9, 2007 2:17:21 AM
- Leawood911
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Re: 997 Exhaust
I'm sorry - I'm going to get grief for this but -
IMHO PSE is like an expensive exhaust stereo.
It's worth considering the following suggestion (after all you are looking for suggestions and not just 'the party line').
For the same money you can get rid of those silly 997 headers AND replace the cats and the mufflers. No warranty issues in the US! Save 40 lbs. and add significant power and 'real' sound.(Not making any number claims - still waiting on the dyno facts when I do this to my car!!)
Save all the stock pieces and either sell them or re-install them when you sell the car. It's all bolt-on.
Sorry, you will not have an off switch other than your right foot. Combine this with a GAIC chip
and the car will run quite well. (Total cost around 6K installed)
I know, I know - but sound to me is silly if there is no additional power behind it.
IMHO PSE is like an expensive exhaust stereo.
It's worth considering the following suggestion (after all you are looking for suggestions and not just 'the party line').
For the same money you can get rid of those silly 997 headers AND replace the cats and the mufflers. No warranty issues in the US! Save 40 lbs. and add significant power and 'real' sound.(Not making any number claims - still waiting on the dyno facts when I do this to my car!!)
Save all the stock pieces and either sell them or re-install them when you sell the car. It's all bolt-on.
Sorry, you will not have an off switch other than your right foot. Combine this with a GAIC chip
and the car will run quite well. (Total cost around 6K installed)I know, I know - but sound to me is silly if there is no additional power behind it.
Feb 9, 2007 10:25:04 AM
- easy_rider911
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Re: 997 Exhaust
If you have Sport Chrono already, then a retrofit of the PSE will mean (ordinarily) that the Sport button will switch both Sport Chrono and PSE on and off.
Is that ideal? Of course not! Porsche IMO should have designed the switches to operate separately.
Can you get a Porsche dealer to add an extra button for separate operation of PSE? Yes - some of the rennteamers here have done this. Perhaps someone could post details.
As for which exhaust system to get, it's your choice. Personally, I am exceptionally happy with PSE. It sounds great!
Yes, the sound is engineered/generated, but that doesn't mean it isn't lovely!
Just my 2 cents...
Is that ideal? Of course not! Porsche IMO should have designed the switches to operate separately.
Can you get a Porsche dealer to add an extra button for separate operation of PSE? Yes - some of the rennteamers here have done this. Perhaps someone could post details.
As for which exhaust system to get, it's your choice. Personally, I am exceptionally happy with PSE. It sounds great!
Yes, the sound is engineered/generated, but that doesn't mean it isn't lovely!
Just my 2 cents...
Feb 9, 2007 2:01:01 PM
- larrytrk
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Re: 997 Exhaust
http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12442
I have just installed my PSE with a direct 12volt switch to the solenoid for off/on. We are skipping DME and Sport Chrono switch.
See above thread for kkfor3's ashtray mounted switch.
I have just installed my PSE with a direct 12volt switch to the solenoid for off/on. We are skipping DME and Sport Chrono switch.
See above thread for kkfor3's ashtray mounted switch.
Feb 9, 2007 8:07:36 PM
- SoCal Alan
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Re: 997 Exhaust
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boardrider said:
Thanks for the information cool switches. How about the factory? What do they use for switching when PSE comes with a new car?
Factory should be the same as retrofit by dealer. If you have sport chrono, the sport chrono switch is used. If not, they add a separate PSE switch.
Feb 9, 2007 10:42:50 PM
- gradyex
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Feb 10, 2007 1:44:05 AM
- Leawood911
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Re: 997 Exhaust
The best sounding revs (when you are just blipping the throttle) come from light flywheels and not loud mufflers. There is nothing like the rapid rise and fall of revs if you have a lighter than stock flywheel.
That sound you like from a Ferrari is mostly the quick revs of the flywheel.
Cheers,
That sound you like from a Ferrari is mostly the quick revs of the flywheel.
Cheers,
Feb 10, 2007 3:55:18 AM
- KiwiCanuck
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Re: 997 Exhaust
Hello Boardrider,
I agree with Leawood911, the aftermarket with EvoMotorSport etc can provide much better value for money. I have their 997 exhaust, and headers, for a dyno-ed increase of circa 20bhp....very reasonable cost and less than the PSE.
They look and sound gorgeous....like almost all sportscars those OEM are less than optimum, especially the Headers. I am now doing the same for my beloved NSX 1995---the OEM headers on that are truly AWFUL!
Courage-----do the right thing!
KiwiCanuck
I agree with Leawood911, the aftermarket with EvoMotorSport etc can provide much better value for money. I have their 997 exhaust, and headers, for a dyno-ed increase of circa 20bhp....very reasonable cost and less than the PSE.
They look and sound gorgeous....like almost all sportscars those OEM are less than optimum, especially the Headers. I am now doing the same for my beloved NSX 1995---the OEM headers on that are truly AWFUL!
Courage-----do the right thing!
KiwiCanuck
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