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    Jan 19, 2007 2:48:55 PM

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    997 Turbo - Powerkit

    Latest rumor: 997 Turbo Powerkit is coming (as we suspected a while ago), estimated power is 510-515 HP, slightly below the power figure of the upcoming 997 GT2 (rumored 520-530 HP). No availability date known yet but rumors indicate summer or autumn 2007, maybe even earlier.

    There is also a very good chance that the powerkit will NOT be retrofittable...unfortunately.

    Jan 19, 2007 2:55:52 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

    thanks for the news! Looking forward to it along with PDK.

    Jan 19, 2007 3:43:44 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

    Any link to this rumored PK and the AMS test with the rumored 512hp TT?

    Jan 19, 2007 3:48:43 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

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    Latest rumor: 997 Turbo Powerkit is coming (as we suspected a while ago), estimated power is 510-515 HP, slightly below the power figure of the upcoming 997 GT2 (rumored 520-530 HP). No availability date known yet but rumors indicate summer or autumn 2007, maybe even earlier.

    There is also a very good chance that the powerkit will NOT be retrofittable...unfortunately.



    Thanks for the update RC! Bad news about retrofittable...

    Jan 19, 2007 4:03:53 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

    What's the difference between an X51-TT and a TTS? Will those be the same?

    Jan 19, 2007 4:07:33 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

    30 extra HP on a 480 Hp car does not seem very much , specially if it will be sold at the usual powerkit price

    Will it include some other goodies ?

    Jan 19, 2007 4:12:46 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

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    30 extra HP on a 480 Hp car does not seem very much , specially if it will be sold at the usual powerkit price

    Will it include some other goodies ?



    Yes it will include two 1st class round the world tickets, two complete Callaway golf sets, one week charter on Flavio Briatore megayacht and two Porsche caps for the children.



    AM

    Jan 19, 2007 4:20:39 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

    Porsche is becomming so exclusive !

    Jan 19, 2007 4:22:35 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

    What about the previous rumors that the car will in fact be getting a bihher engine (3.8)?

    Jan 19, 2007 4:24:13 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

    Maybe they will improve the exhaust with the powerkit. Yesterday I was behind one in my mini and it sounded very whimpish. I just don't know why they castrated the car.

    Jan 19, 2007 4:39:20 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

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    Maybe they will improve the exhaust with the powerkit. Yesterday I was behind one in my mini and it sounded very whimpish. I just don't know why they castrated the car.



    This is one of the few times I can say I agree with you wholeheartedly.

    20hp can be explained by just an exhaust. I bet it is an exhaust and some "fluff" updates (i.e. bogus) that serve absolutely no function but help justify a huge price. Then again, these cars aren't targeted to bargain-hunters

    Jan 19, 2007 4:42:33 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

    If its anything like the last X50 package, it doesnt sound much different...I suspect just ECU tweaks really, same as with the chips tuners already offer...I hope that the power provides more performance benefit than 30 HP suggests...I figured this car would have 530 HP, GT2 550...

    Jan 19, 2007 4:43:59 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

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    Quote:
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    Maybe they will improve the exhaust with the powerkit. Yesterday I was behind one in my mini and it sounded very whimpish. I just don't know why they castrated the car.



    This is one of the few times I can say I agree with you wholeheartedly.

    20hp can be explained by just an exhaust. I bet it is an exhaust and some "fluff" updates (i.e. bogus) that serve absolutely no function but help justify a huge price. Then again, these cars aren't targeted to bargain-hunters



    I sincerely doubt it. Just look at the old X50. Reinforced transmission, bigger intercoolers, bigger turbochargers. It will still hold back the BMW M6 even today. The Turbo powerkit will be expensive, but I can guarantee you that it won't just be the exhaust. It will probably be as moddabl as the old X50 was. Slap on a good exhaust and an ECU upgrade and the car will be making close to 600 bhp. And if what Kreso had stated before is true, the engine will be bored out to 3.8 litres.

    Jan 19, 2007 4:43:59 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

    i guess the factory aspect of it will be appealing to many at any price...however i suspect many will go the route of eclou and others...seems to be a huge and noticable increase in performance at a reasonable price...and with the apparent coming of re-flashability of chips as atomic indicated ...why not

    Jan 19, 2007 5:05:17 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

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    Quote:
    eclou said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Maybe they will improve the exhaust with the powerkit. Yesterday I was behind one in my mini and it sounded very whimpish. I just don't know why they castrated the car.



    This is one of the few times I can say I agree with you wholeheartedly.

    20hp can be explained by just an exhaust. I bet it is an exhaust and some "fluff" updates (i.e. bogus) that serve absolutely no function but help justify a huge price. Then again, these cars aren't targeted to bargain-hunters



    I sincerely doubt it. Just look at the old X50. Reinforced transmission, bigger intercoolers, bigger turbochargers. It will still hold back the BMW M6 even today. The Turbo powerkit will be expensive, but I can guarantee you that it won't just be the exhaust. It will probably be as moddabl as the old X50 was. Slap on a good exhaust and an ECU upgrade and the car will be making close to 600 bhp. And if what Kreso had stated before is true, the engine will be bored out to 3.8 litres.



    I agree, historically, the PK has always been worth its price

    Personally, I would expect the 0-200kph time to improve by slightly less than 1s and 0-300kph time by ca. 3-4s. This would be sufficient to put a (small) gap between the 997TTx50 and its competitors (F430, Gallardo, Z06).

    However, I still doubt that the PK will be delivered before calender year 2008

    Jan 19, 2007 5:20:43 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

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    Quote:
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    30 extra HP on a 480 Hp car does not seem very much , specially if it will be sold at the usual powerkit price

    Will it include some other goodies ?



    Yes it will include two 1st class round the world tickets, two complete Callaway golf sets, one week charter on Flavio Briatore megayacht and two Porsche caps for the children.



    AM



    No tickets for the Royal Box at the Monaco Grand Prix this time?

    Jan 19, 2007 5:28:13 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

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    Quote:
    mumbasic said:
    Quote:
    Gnil said:
    30 extra HP on a 480 Hp car does not seem very much , specially if it will be sold at the usual powerkit price

    Will it include some other goodies ?



    Yes it will include two 1st class round the world tickets, two complete Callaway golf sets, one week charter on Flavio Briatore megayacht and two Porsche caps for the children.



    AM



    No tickets for the Royal Box at the Monaco Grand Prix this time?



    No, for that you must get the Viagra powerkit and hit it off with one of the princesses .

    Jan 19, 2007 5:32:00 PM

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    Not retrofittable? That's a tragedy! What about all the existing TT owners out there? They would have had a captive market.

    Jan 19, 2007 5:34:52 PM

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    Not retrofittable? That's a tragedy! What about all the existing TT owners out there? They would have had a captive market.



    Looks like all the good stuff (PDK/PK) will only be coming a year or so after the actual car. I wonder what happens to the Tip .

    Jan 19, 2007 5:37:29 PM

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    Not retrofittable? That's a tragedy! What about all the existing TT owners out there? They would have had a captive market.



    Wasn't it the same with the powerkit of the 997 Carrera S? Not retrofittable for the first model year. Can somebody explain why?

    Jan 19, 2007 5:37:57 PM

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    Not retrofittable? That's a tragedy! What about all the existing TT owners out there? They would have had a captive market.



    Looks like all the good stuff (PDK/PK) will only be coming a year or so after the actual car. I wonder what happens to the Tip .



    Tiptronic is said to be replaced by PDK.

    Jan 19, 2007 5:43:51 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

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    Maybe they will improve the exhaust with the powerkit. Yesterday I was behind one in my mini and it sounded very whimpish. I just don't know why they castrated the car.



    You all have to grow up. The car is not castrated! The loud sounding exhausts only appeal to people with a need to show themselves... perhaps they themselves lack something.

    Every time I'm on a 30MPH traffic lane and hear a loud exhaust, 9 out of 10 times it is an F360/430 or some such. How ridiculous... sounding like 120MPH but only doing 30MPH. A loud dog with no bite - really!

    Jan 19, 2007 5:45:42 PM

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    What I would love is a Turbo S when the PDK is out next year (ie powerkit plus PCCB for $15k premium). But of course, P being greedy, that will not happen.

    Jan 19, 2007 5:58:20 PM

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    Agreed - I prefer stealth.

    Maybe I'm showing my age but I've never been a fan of a loud exhaust. I prefer stealth (and no wing!).

    Jan 19, 2007 6:29:15 PM

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    My guess is that, after one puts a new chip in, adds a new exhaust, and spends a lot of time in shops, etc., that one would spend very close to the price of the powerkit. I had such an experience with my modified 996TT.

    Jan 19, 2007 6:40:19 PM

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    My guess is that, after one puts a new chip in, adds a new exhaust, and spends a lot of time in shops, etc., that one would spend very close to the price of the powerkit. I had such an experience with my modified 996TT.



    Yes, but you still don't get the new ICs or the stronger transmission. The Powerkit is well worth it if one spends so much money on a car.

    Jan 19, 2007 6:42:16 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

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    Latest rumor: 997 Turbo Powerkit is coming (as we suspected a while ago), estimated power is 510-515 HP, slightly below the power figure of the upcoming 997 GT2 (rumored 520-530 HP). No availability date known yet but rumors indicate summer or autumn 2007, maybe even earlier.

    There is also a very good chance that the powerkit will NOT be retrofittable...unfortunately.



    I am sorry but if these numbers are true and real, it is plain ridiculous to buy that package for only 30 hp more, .

    Jan 19, 2007 6:47:18 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

    You all forget something...
    If the powerkits is not retrofitable this means that is not only a different ecu or bigger turbos...
    it means it oought to be 3.8cc

    Jan 19, 2007 6:50:45 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

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    Quote:
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    Latest rumor: 997 Turbo Powerkit is coming (as we suspected a while ago), estimated power is 510-515 HP, slightly below the power figure of the upcoming 997 GT2 (rumored 520-530 HP). No availability date known yet but rumors indicate summer or autumn 2007, maybe even earlier.

    There is also a very good chance that the powerkit will NOT be retrofittable...unfortunately.



    I am sorry but if these numbers are true and real, it is plain ridiculous to buy that package for only 30 hp more, .



    You are missing the big picture. Higher top speed, much better acceleration, bigger intercoolers and a reinforced gearbox. Probably bigger displacement as well. Chip THAT and then talk about how it isn't worth it .

    Jan 19, 2007 7:38:22 PM

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    Re: 997 Turbo - Powerkit

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    Quote:
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    Quote:
    RC said:
    Latest rumor: 997 Turbo Powerkit is coming (as we suspected a while ago), estimated power is 510-515 HP, slightly below the power figure of the upcoming 997 GT2 (rumored 520-530 HP). No availability date known yet but rumors indicate summer or autumn 2007, maybe even earlier.

    There is also a very good chance that the powerkit will NOT be retrofittable...unfortunately.



    I am sorry but if these numbers are true and real, it is plain ridiculous to buy that package for only 30 hp more, .



    You are missing the big picture. Higher top speed, much better acceleration, bigger intercoolers and a reinforced gearbox. Probably bigger displacement as well. Chip THAT and then talk about how it isn't worth it .


    I got the big picture, my problem is that (in the US), you can get all that stuff you mentioned and much more, for a lot less than 17k$ or whatever the package costs (warranty issue aside).
    For me, most of that cost would be to have the warranty and that is way too much I think.
    also, a chipped powerkit would not be too far ahead of a chipped stock and doing that defeats the purpose (warranty).
     
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