bluelines:I don't want to sound meh, but is this car not mostly about paint and decals?
And the power added, and the carbon bits, and the special wheels.
Don't think there are special decals, but it does have some complicated badge manufacturing
Also the special paint, which will be in lock out for 3 or 5 years.
Whoopsy:And the power added, and the carbon bits, and the special wheels.
Don't think there are special decals, but it does have some complicated badge manufacturing
Also the special paint, which will be in lock out for 3 or 5 years.
A sort of in-house after market hot rod ?
crayphile:Whoopsy:And the power added, and the carbon bits, and the special wheels.
Don't think there are special decals, but it does have some complicated badge manufacturing
Also the special paint, which will be in lock out for 3 or 5 years.
A sort of in-house after market hot rod ?
Haha yes, soon Exclusive Manufaktur might become Porsche's AMG
bluelines:I don't want to sound meh, but is this car not mostly about paint and decals?
You would be right (actually you are in a way...) if this would be the same 580 hp Turbo S with some paint stuff and decals. However, this time, Porsche was clever enough to up the power, give the car the carbon roof, carbon side fenders and lots of more carbon all around the car. It is special enough to become a collectible considering the production numbers. Clever.
However, if Porsche would produce another 500 Turbo RS Exclusive Series with the GT2 RS tech plus AWD and maybe 680 instead of 700 hp, this car would be even more desirable. Maybe I just gave them an idea...
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Whoopsy:crayphile:Whoopsy:And the power added, and the carbon bits, and the special wheels.
Don't think there are special decals, but it does have some complicated badge manufacturing
Also the special paint, which will be in lock out for 3 or 5 years.
A sort of in-house after market hot rod ?
Haha yes, soon Exclusive Manufaktur might become Porsche's AMG
This Exclusive sh.t sounds lame, why not name Porsche's "AMG" just Porsche Motorsport? Would fit Porsche much better. Or at least Porsche Sportdesign or Porsche Sport or whatever.
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https://www.facebook.com/porsche/videos/10155982393287668/
Porsche developed carbon fiber wheels especially to be used in the Exclusive Series
Whoopsy:https://www.facebook.com/porsche/videos/10155982393287668/
Porsche developed carbon fiber wheels especially to be used in the Exclusive Series
Maybe you should also mention the price tag...
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RC:The whole set is around 15k EUR.
That actually is not too bad, as a nice set of BBS Aluminum rims cost $10k. Might be more durable and lighter than Magnesium??
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More information on these carbon wheels: They are supposed to be better than what Koenigsegg and others are offering because they are more resistant and durable. Apparently they also can "suffer" some minor exterior damage up to a certain depth/level without loosing structural integrity. Completely new development and Porsche is apparently very proud of it.
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RC:More information on these carbon wheels: They are supposed to be better than what Koenigsegg and others are offering because they are more resistant and durable. Apparently they also can "suffer" some minor exterior damage up to a certain depth/level without loosing structural integrity. Completely new development and Porsche is apparently very proud of it.
I would consider these for my GT3, if the prices comes down a little over time. Do you know the weights?
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Grant:RC:More information on these carbon wheels: They are supposed to be better than what Koenigsegg and others are offering because they are more resistant and durable. Apparently they also can "suffer" some minor exterior damage up to a certain depth/level without loosing structural integrity. Completely new development and Porsche is apparently very proud of it.
I would consider these for my GT3, if the prices comes down a little over time. Do you know the weights?
8.5 kg if I remember right...per rim.
Standard Turbo S rims weight around 10.5 or 11 kg per rim, don't remember anymore.
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RC:Grant:I would consider these for my GT3, if the prices comes down a little over time. Do you know the weights?
8.5 kg if I remember right...per rim.
Standard Turbo S rims weight around 10.5 or 11 kg per rim, don't remember anymore.
Hmm, that might be heavier than Magnesium (but they are actually cheaper than Mag, if the 15k EUR for all 4 is correct)
The BBS Mag wheels:
20 x 9 14.99 lbs (~6.8 kg)
20 x 12 18.55 lbs (~8.4 kg)
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Grant:RC:Grant:I would consider these for my GT3, if the prices comes down a little over time. Do you know the weights?
8.5 kg if I remember right...per rim.
Standard Turbo S rims weight around 10.5 or 11 kg per rim, don't remember anymore.
Hmm, that might be heavier than Magnesium (but they are actually cheaper than Mag, if the 15k EUR for all 4 is correct)
Would you ever doubt me?
Right now, these carbon rims are only available for the Turbo S Exclusive Series and it seems they can only be ordered with a VIN number for this car. I doubt however that Porsche will keep it that way, especially if they don't sell enough of these to Turbo S ES customers.
There are also rumors of a later availability for the regular Turbo S, same goes to a 605 hp powerkit (or maybe 607 hp, like the Turbo S ES? ).
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RC:Right now, these carbon rims are only available for the Turbo S Exclusive Series and it seems they can only be ordered with a VIN number for this car. I doubt however that Porsche will keep it that way, especially if they don't sell enough of these to Turbo S ES customers.
There are also rumors of a later availability for the regular Turbo S, same goes to a 605 hp powerkit (or maybe 607 hp, like the Turbo S ES? ).
Wouldn't these sizes also fit the GT3 and 911R?
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a12029716/porsche-carbon-fiber-wheels/
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"Carbon, the characteristically black high-tech material, can be fully appreciated with a protective layer of clear lacquer. Together, the innovative wheels weigh around 8.5 kilograms less than standard alloy wheels, which is a reduction of 20 per cent. They are also 20 per cent stronger. With a reduced unsprung weight, the tyres trail the surface of the road better and are perfectly optimised for absorbing longitudinal and lateral forces. Lower rotating masses mean more spontaneity both in acceleration and braking. The result is increased driving dynamics and driving pleasure.
Manufactured entirely from carbon fibre reinforced polymer (CFRP), the wheel is essentially comprised of two components. The wheel centre is made from carbon-fibre fabric. This involves cutting and assembling over 200 individual components. The second component is the rim base made from braided carbon fibre by what is currently the world’s largest carbon fibre braiding machine with a diameter of approximately nine metres. The wheel centre is then braided into the rim base. The assembled wheel is impregnated with resin and pre-hardened at high pressure and high temperatures. The finished wheel is hardened at high temperatures followed by a long cooling process. The central lock is then inserted into the finished wheel and the wheel is protected with clear lacquer.
Porsche is the first company in the global automotive industry to use this extremely complex technology. The braiding technology offers key advantages over the more conventional method of manufacturing pre-impregnated carbon-fibre fabric: This production technique makes the material structure of the carbon considerably denser and more compact. This increases rigidity. Using the material more efficiently also produces less waste. The new carbon wheel is made from a total of 18 kilometres carbon fibre or eight square metres of carbon-fibre fabric.
From the beginning of 2018, the new carbon wheels will be available as an option for the 911 Turbo S Exclusive Series in the dimensions of 9 J x 20 for the front axle and 11.5 J x 20 for the rear axle. In Germany, the price will be EUR 15,232 including VAT."
I guess the rear wheels are too narrow for GT3 (should be 12")
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Carbon Fibre wheels were not allowed by the TUV back when I had Dymags.... I guess Porsche will be getting them "allowed" since they are a German company , the big problem is if you scuff one but having said that the same applies to a certain extent with the diamond cut wheels currently in vogue.
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TB993tt:Carbon Fibre wheels were not allowed by the TUV back when I had Dymags.... I guess Porsche will be putting them through the relevant tests, the big problem is if you scuff one but having said that the same applies to a certain extent with the diamond cut wheels currently in vogue.
I think CF wheels from Koenigsegg were approved and even Ford uses them on Mustang and GT now. I think the technology has improved since Dymag (and these Porsche ones look like best ones yet)
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Grant:TB993tt:Carbon Fibre wheels were not allowed by the TUV back when I had Dymags.... I guess Porsche will be putting them through the relevant tests, the big problem is if you scuff one but having said that the same applies to a certain extent with the diamond cut wheels currently in vogue.
I think CF wheels from Koenigsegg were approved and even Ford uses them on Mustang and GT now. I think the technology has improved since Dymag (and these Porsche ones look like best ones yet)
The way I understood it (from Dymag) was that there was not a category for CF wheels and the TUV authorities refused to create one so they wouldn't even accept the wheel from Dymag to test - they were convinced it was a German protectionist racket
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Aug 18, 2017 4:40:12 PM
I hope they make those wheels available for the GT3.
that would be awesome but I can see already an issue with the rear being narrower than original GT3 wheels...
PAG proposed in the past the turbo S wheels for the GT3 as winter pack. I hope they can propose them to other models.
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