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Jun 20, 2017 2:51:55 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

SciFrog:
The 911 cab is the workhorse of the sport car world, only the California comes close in terms of practicality (but bests it on many other factors).

Like you said: A GT3 Cab, they don't even have to call it GT3...maybe GTR or whatever...with the tech from the GT3 would be perfect. 500 n/a horses with a high revving engine, great chassis and brake system, rear seats and so much luggage capacity that you can actually do a one week trip with the car with your wife/girlfriend. Porsche doesn't have the vision for such a car...

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Jun 20, 2017 2:55:39 PM

Mithras: Expert; Loc: Toronto, Canada , Canada; Posts: 1981, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 16, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

It's the GTS. It's just that the GTS should have a GT3 engine!!!

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Jun 20, 2017 2:57:45 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: Mithras

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Plus PDK-S and firmer chassis...

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Jun 20, 2017 2:59:12 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

SciFrog:
Plus PDK-S and firmer chassis...

What Mithras and you said... Smiley

Porsche just doesn't get it. Smiley

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Jun 20, 2017 3:05:30 PM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

RC:
vantagesc:
RC,

Audi does not seem to market the R8 at all. I know that many here believe that I am exaggerating regarding the R8 but I drove so many cars in my life and also owned many and the R8 is one of the rare cars I can imagine keeping forever (unless I would replace it with an updated version or a Huracan Performante, etc.).

Not at all, I actually believe you are really enjoying the car and use it perfectly, if it wasn't the look ( frontage ), I was up for it too. regarding ur luggage, reminds me of 16 days round trip from Toronto to denver in 964. one of the most relaxing drive I've ever done.

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Jun 20, 2017 3:17:10 PM

964C2: Expert; Loc: Dallas, TX , United States; Posts: 1825, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: martini964

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Give me the "simplicity" of my 964 any day!

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Jun 20, 2017 3:56:15 PM

amazon: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Belgium , Belgium; Posts: 2110, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 5, 2004; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

MKSGR:
RC:
This is actually the main reason I still appreciate the 911 (but this works only with the cabriolet and maybe the Targa):

The R8 isn't that bad either (but still miles away from the luggage capacity of the 911 Cab):

This is an amazing picture indeed

In case of a high speed crash, I'd be very worried to have such heavy suitcases behind the front seats.

If the seat is not resistant enough, and I really doubt it can cope with the weight of a 20kg suitcase launched at high speed, you can imagine the consequences.

Are you sure it's safe to drive like this ?

In a crash, the suitcase placed in the middle and on top of another one will end in your windshield IMHO, if not in place of your head. Smiley

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Jun 20, 2017 4:41:04 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: amazon

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

My wife drives the car with the luggage inside the 911 and she certainly doesn't understand the words "high speed". Smiley Smiley The back of the seats are pressing towards the luggage and the content of the luggage is pretty soft (mostly clothing and shoes). Of course, if a truck hits them from the rear but I think that even without the luggage, they would be in serious trouble. Smiley

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Jun 20, 2017 5:50:35 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

RC:
SciFrog:
Plus PDK-S and firmer chassis...

What Mithras and you said...

Porsche just doesn't get it.

Their marketing people must be useless. No clue what their customers want. Or at least all 10 of them on an Internet forum Smiley

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Jun 20, 2017 6:12:43 PM

Mithras: Expert; Loc: Toronto, Canada , Canada; Posts: 1981, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 16, 2005; Reply to: bluelines

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

No I think it's a case of getting away with the lowest/cheapest denominator possible which will still sell. Would they sell a TONNE of GT3 engined GTSes (coupe and cab)? Of course they would! Would they be a better car and get more accolades? Of course they would! Would they make a larger net profit? Probably with the higher cost of the engines etc... No.

Actually not probably. If it were a yes you would see the GTS with a GT3 engine/suspension/gearbox like we'd like.

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Jun 20, 2017 6:38:00 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: bluelines

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

bluelines:
RC:
SciFrog:
Plus PDK-S and firmer chassis...

What Mithras and you said...

Porsche just doesn't get it.

Their marketing people must be useless. No clue what their customers want. Or at least all 10 of them on an Internet forum

Yeah...those infamous 3%...I guess more than 10 but still not interesting enough for Porsche to tend to them. Smiley

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Jun 20, 2017 8:29:08 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

Pretty sure I could fit all of that into a McLaren...

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Jun 20, 2017 8:29:59 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: noone1

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noone1:
Pretty sure I could fit all of that into a McLaren...

Cayman too...

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Jun 20, 2017 9:34:37 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: Mithras

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

Mithras:
No I think it's a case of getting away with the lowest/cheapest denominator possible which will still sell.

+1

That is of course what it is all about.

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Jun 20, 2017 9:53:55 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: noone1

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

noone1:
Pretty sure I could fit all of that into a McLaren...

Smiley

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Jun 21, 2017 4:28:20 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: noone1

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

noone1:
Pretty sure I could fit all of that into a McLaren...

There 2 car fit will fit in the front trunk in the McLaren for sure. the other 2 might not it behind the seat on the shelf, actually they don't.

My F12 'might' be able to swallow them all. If I take out the partition.

The 911 fit all 4 on the back seat while the front trunk can still take 2 more car fit luggage. So 6 carry on suitcases.

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Jun 21, 2017 11:33:33 AM

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , United States; Posts: 6920, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2006; Reply to: Whoopsy

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It helps to drive to the vacation house where you have all of your other clothes and stuff waiting.

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Jun 30, 2017 6:30:55 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: Leawood911

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

Frist 2 is the agate grey, and that gold color actually grows on me after I have seen it in person, seems more copper than gold.

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Jun 30, 2017 7:43:20 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Whoopsy

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I like the Agate grey version...but the copper will probably be more popular with interested buyers.

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Jun 30, 2017 7:44:32 AM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14171, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

This car is a collector , so copper is the color to have

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Jun 30, 2017 1:28:05 PM

pmarkow: Rennteam Pro; Loc: cambridge , United Kingdom; Posts: 2277, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 28, 2014; Reply to: Gnil

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

Gnil:
This car is a collector , so copper is the color to have

why you think it is a collector's piece? the other viewpoint is a somewhat pimped turboS

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Jun 30, 2017 1:32:23 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: pmarkow

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

pmarkow:
Gnil:
This car is a collector , so copper is the color to have

why you think it is a collector's piece? the other viewpoint is a somewhat pimped turboS

Well but pimped in the right way... Smiley Not sure this car will make it in the top of the most valuable collector 911 Porsche cars but it could loose little (if any) money indeed.

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Jun 30, 2017 1:41:09 PM

pmarkow: Rennteam Pro; Loc: cambridge , United Kingdom; Posts: 2277, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 28, 2014; Reply to: RC

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RC:
pmarkow:
Gnil:
This car is a collector , so copper is the color to have

why you think it is a collector's piece? the other viewpoint is a somewhat pimped turboS

Well but pimped in the right way...

yes, true.

Not sure this car will make it in the top of the most valuable collector 911 Porsche cars but it could loose little (if any) money indeed.

i'd rather put my money on the GT2RS

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Jun 30, 2017 1:50:55 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14171, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: pmarkow

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

pmarkow:
Gnil:
This car is a collector , so copper is the color to have

why you think it is a collector's piece? the other viewpoint is a somewhat pimped turboS

Because every single limited worldwide production models have become collectors , and this car has enough special parts to make it unique .

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Jun 30, 2017 10:39:59 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: Gnil

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

This is is a modern Sports Classic.

That's how it should be judged, not against the GT cars.

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Jul 1, 2017 8:06:15 PM

Herbaliser: Co-Pilot; Loc: Zero Degree Atoll , Maldives; Posts: 298, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 30, 2007; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017)

No substance in this car. Just like the R. Superficial, over-badged/pimped, nothing interesting from an engineering or performance point of view. Those stripes on a Turbo look ridiculous.

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Jul 1, 2017 8:15:39 PM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: Herbaliser

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Herbaliser:
Those stripes on a Turbo look ridiculous.

Indeedy... Smiley .

Just does not fit does it...

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Jul 3, 2017 9:15:18 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Whoopsy

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Whoopsy:
This is is a modern Sports Classic.

That's how it should be judged, not against the GT cars.

I also believe that the Turbo S Exclusive Series will keep it's value, not sure however it will rise in value, especially with a certain mileage. At least Porsche didn't just put some lipstick on a pig but finally decided to add more value to such a car. Kudos to them. Let's just hope that the next Turbo S model year won't get the extra power as an optional powerkit. Smiley Smiley

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Jul 3, 2017 12:26:16 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: RC

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Oh, that gold paint, eventually they will release it to PTS, like the Sports Classic Grey to the 918s.

They will do a lock out on the paint, I forgot 3 or 5 years.

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Jul 3, 2017 3:23:55 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: RC

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RC:
Let's just hope that the next Turbo S model year won't get the extra power as an optional powerkit.

I expect that the next Turbo S will make more power than this. Isn't it supposed to add some hybrid and/or anti-lag technology (maybe 3rd electric turbocharger or other torque-fill from electric motor)?

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