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355Spider said:
Went out to the Texas mile run today in Goliad Texas. They rented out an airship at a small airport today and tomorrow for 1 mile runs. I'll start by saying it was a blast, an absolute blast.If you haven't done it, you have to try it. It's wicked lining up knowing your about to do 175-180mph without getting a ticket.

There were all kinds of cars and bikes out there today. I was probably one of just a few barely modified vehicles. The rest were very highly modified. There was also some really wicked modified motorcylces.
I ran very well by all accounts. I took my Passport GT2 timer so I could time it as well to get some 0-180mph. Recent reviews in a German magazine had this time at about 40 seconds for the Z06 and I knew it was wrong. I did 3 passes that were 175, 175.6 and 178.3. These passes were all about 27 seconds long. My 0-180 time was 27.9 seconds. Alot faster than the german rag had which leads me to believe they were sandbagging or outright lying.

To be fair my car does have 22 more dyno confirmed hp than stock which can't account for much. All passes were done on stock tires with 93 octane gas. No race gas.
This was on a landing strip so traction was terrible. The 0-180 could probably have been 1 second faster.

I ran tied with an R1 motorcyle. He said he was running all out as fast as he could. There were some Hyabusas running near 200. The fastest Busa ran 230mph.

The lone Ford GT ran back to back 169s. I was by far the fastest car that was not highly modified except for a couple other C6Zs. I believe a they were running mid 175s as well. Here's some pics of my GT2 timer times and my slips. Sorry about the quality. Some guy took vids of me in hi def. I'll get the links fom him and post them asap.

You guys need to try this. It was so much fun I nearly pissed myself at 180.

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MKSGR said:
355spider,

there is no conflict between your test data and the AMS figures.

Just watch the below video. The Z06 needs around 12s (!) between 180 and 190mph (based on speedo indication).

Adding those 12s to your 28s for 0-180 and recognizing that (due to your special tires, I guess?) your car did a very quick 0-60 time your car needs around 40s for 0-300. Thes test car was 1s slower

Video link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6EiNFiLhV0&mode=related&search=

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So we're really supposed to believe it takes another 13.9 seconds to go the remaining 6.3mph. It would take 4 at most. Which is what I supected. Right around the LP640s time. Considering I killed the Ford GT in attendance by at least 6-8mph per run that would make sense. The crazy thing is there are bone stock Z06s that are faster than mine. I'm sure some guys could have done 0-180 in 26 seconds flat. WIth traction I think I could have done it 1.5s faster.

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355Spider said:
So we're really supposed to believe it takes another 13.9 seconds to go the remaining 6.3mph. It would take 4 at most.

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Henjie said:

The Passport GT2 is motion-based, and motion-based accelerometers are inherently less accurate. You might not know it but the Passport GT2 could be off by as much as 10mph once you're up to speed.

Just something to ponder.

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The Passport GT2 is motion-based, and motion-based accelerometers are inherently less accurate. You might not know it but the Passport GT2 could be off by as much as 10mph once you're up to speed.

Just something to ponder.

OK, then the inaccuracy of 355spider's equipment is probably a bigger problem at very high speeds (above 250kph)

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355Spider said:
So we're really supposed to believe it takes another 13.9 seconds to go the remaining 6.3mph. It would take 4 at most.

Just look at the video. The Z06 is very, very slow above (real) 180kph.

The remaining mph would indeed require around 12s.

BTW: Your above data indicates that the 0-250kph time of your car is pretty much on par with the AMS test car...

Why, on that basis, should one reasonably believe that the AMS data is wrong? Where a direct comparison is possible your data confirms the AMS results...

I am close to 100% convinced that your car would need 40s for 0-300kph on the basis of the above data and based on the other info discussed above

Easy solution: just do a GPS test up to 300kph

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svtrader1 said:

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MKSGR said:

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355Spider said:
So we're really supposed to believe it takes another 13.9 seconds to go the remaining 6.3mph. It would take 4 at most.

Just look at the video. The Z06 is very, very slow above (real) 180kph.

The remaining mph would indeed require around 12s.

BTW: Your above data indicates that the 0-250kph time of your car is pretty much on par with the AMS test car...

Why, on that basis, should one reasonably believe that the AMS data is wrong? Where a direct comparison is possible your data confirms the AMS results...

I am close to 100% convinced that your car would need 40s for 0-300kph on the basis of the above data and based on the other info discussed above

Easy solution: just do a GPS test up to 300kph

You are 100% correct!!! After looking at the video, there is no doubt the Zo6 would take ~40sec. 0-300.

IF you pause the video at ~60mph and look at the time, it shows ~18sec. Then play till ~186mph and pause again, you'll see a time of ~55sec.

Now, do the math: 55 - 18 = 37.
It takes the Zo6 37sec. from 60mph - 186mph.
Add an additional 3.5-4 sec. for 0-60mph time and you get ~40.5-41 sec.

So, 0-300kph in ~41sec. is correctamundo!! Case closed.

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MKSGR said:

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355Spider said:
So we're really supposed to believe it takes another 13.9 seconds to go the remaining 6.3mph. It would take 4 at most.

Just look at the video. The Z06 is very, very slow above (real) 180kph.

The remaining mph would indeed require around 12s.

BTW: Your above data indicates that the 0-250kph time of your car is pretty much on par with the AMS test car...

Why, on that basis, should one reasonably believe that the AMS data is wrong? Where a direct comparison is possible your data confirms the AMS results...

I am close to 100% convinced that your car would need 40s for 0-300kph on the basis of the above data and based on the other info discussed above

Easy solution: just do a GPS test up to 300kph

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355Spider said:

If you really think that a car that has just done 0-180 in 27.9 seconds will take another 13.9 seconds(=41.8 AMS#) to go the remaining 6.4mph you deserve to lose your money. Especially when that same car did the previous 10 seconds in 4.4 seconds.

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Henjie said:

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355Spider said:

If you really think that a car that has just done 0-180 in 27.9 seconds will take another 13.9 seconds(=41.8 AMS#) to go the remaining 6.4mph you deserve to lose your money. Especially when that same car did the previous 10 seconds in 4.4 seconds.

Come on man. Do you honestly believe that the C6 Z06 is faster than the Carrera GT AND the SLR from 0-300kph? The Z06 is hella good, but it's not that good.

I know you got a 27.9s 0-180mph time using your Passport GT2, but there are far better ways to accurately measure your car's performance (in comes GPS).

Check out this test of a G-Tech Pro: Testing the G-Tech Pro. Scroll down to the part where they discuss accuracy and consistency and you'll see the inherent weakness of motion-based accelerometers.

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355Spider said:

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Henjie said:

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355Spider said:

If you really think that a car that has just done 0-180 in 27.9 seconds will take another 13.9 seconds(=41.8 AMS#) to go the remaining 6.4mph you deserve to lose your money. Especially when that same car did the previous 10 seconds in 4.4 seconds.

Come on man. Do you honestly believe that the C6 Z06 is faster than the Carrera GT AND the SLR from 0-300kph? The Z06 is hella good, but it's not that good.

I know you got a 27.9s 0-180mph time using your Passport GT2, but there are far better ways to accurately measure your car's performance (in comes GPS).

Check out this test of a G-Tech Pro: Testing the G-Tech Pro. Scroll down to the part where they discuss accuracy and consistency and you'll see the inherent weakness of motion-based accelerometers.

How did my cars timer register the same time as the GT2? I hit the button on start and finish myself. Are they both off 10+ seconds? Is that what you are saying?

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355Spider said:

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MKSGR said:

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355Spider said:
So we're really supposed to believe it takes another 13.9 seconds to go the remaining 6.3mph. It would take 4 at most.

Just look at the video. The Z06 is very, very slow above (real) 180kph.

The remaining mph would indeed require around 12s.

BTW: Your above data indicates that the 0-250kph time of your car is pretty much on par with the AMS test car...

Why, on that basis, should one reasonably believe that the AMS data is wrong? Where a direct comparison is possible your data confirms the AMS results...

I am close to 100% convinced that your car would need 40s for 0-300kph on the basis of the above data and based on the other info discussed above

Easy solution: just do a GPS test up to 300kph

If you are so confident we can put a little wager on it. I'll find a GPS timer somewhere. We'll put $10K a piece in a pay pall account and see who wins. As a matter of fact i'll extend that bet to everyone on this site. Easy money.
If you really think that a car that has just done 0-180 in 27.9 seconds will take another 13.9 seconds(=41.8 AMS#) to go the remaining 6.4mph you deserve to lose your money. Especially when that same car did the previous 10 seconds in 4.4 seconds.

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MKSGR said:

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355Spider said:

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MKSGR said:

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355Spider said:
So we're really supposed to believe it takes another 13.9 seconds to go the remaining 6.3mph. It would take 4 at most.

Just look at the video. The Z06 is very, very slow above (real) 180kph.

The remaining mph would indeed require around 12s.

BTW: Your above data indicates that the 0-250kph time of your car is pretty much on par with the AMS test car...

Why, on that basis, should one reasonably believe that the AMS data is wrong? Where a direct comparison is possible your data confirms the AMS results...

I am close to 100% convinced that your car would need 40s for 0-300kph on the basis of the above data and based on the other info discussed above

Easy solution: just do a GPS test up to 300kph

If you are so confident we can put a little wager on it. I'll find a GPS timer somewhere. We'll put $10K a piece in a pay pall account and see who wins. As a matter of fact i'll extend that bet to everyone on this site. Easy money.
If you really think that a car that has just done 0-180 in 27.9 seconds will take another 13.9 seconds(=41.8 AMS#) to go the remaining 6.4mph you deserve to lose your money. Especially when that same car did the previous 10 seconds in 4.4 seconds.

If I interpret your posts correctly you will want to do a GPS based test anyhow (even if nobody participates in your bet)

BTW: You might also consider posting a video of the speedo while doing a 60-300 run (like in the youtoube link above)?

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Crash said:

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MKSGR said:

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355Spider said:

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MKSGR said:

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355Spider said:
So we're really supposed to believe it takes another 13.9 seconds to go the remaining 6.3mph. It would take 4 at most.

Just look at the video. The Z06 is very, very slow above (real) 180kph.

The remaining mph would indeed require around 12s.

BTW: Your above data indicates that the 0-250kph time of your car is pretty much on par with the AMS test car...

Why, on that basis, should one reasonably believe that the AMS data is wrong? Where a direct comparison is possible your data confirms the AMS results...

I am close to 100% convinced that your car would need 40s for 0-300kph on the basis of the above data and based on the other info discussed above

Easy solution: just do a GPS test up to 300kph

If you are so confident we can put a little wager on it. I'll find a GPS timer somewhere. We'll put $10K a piece in a pay pall account and see who wins. As a matter of fact i'll extend that bet to everyone on this site. Easy money.
If you really think that a car that has just done 0-180 in 27.9 seconds will take another 13.9 seconds(=41.8 AMS#) to go the remaining 6.4mph you deserve to lose your money. Especially when that same car did the previous 10 seconds in 4.4 seconds.

If I interpret your posts correctly you will want to do a GPS based test anyhow (even if nobody participates in your bet)

BTW: You might also consider posting a video of the speedo while doing a 60-300 run (like in the youtoube link above)?

Markus, take the bet. The $10.000 will just cover the carbon fiber for the 599 console .

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MKSGR said:

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355Spider said:

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MKSGR said:

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355Spider said:
So we're really supposed to believe it takes another 13.9 seconds to go the remaining 6.3mph. It would take 4 at most.

Just look at the video. The Z06 is very, very slow above (real) 180kph.

The remaining mph would indeed require around 12s.

BTW: Your above data indicates that the 0-250kph time of your car is pretty much on par with the AMS test car...

Why, on that basis, should one reasonably believe that the AMS data is wrong? Where a direct comparison is possible your data confirms the AMS results...

I am close to 100% convinced that your car would need 40s for 0-300kph on the basis of the above data and based on the other info discussed above

Easy solution: just do a GPS test up to 300kph

If you are so confident we can put a little wager on it. I'll find a GPS timer somewhere. We'll put $10K a piece in a pay pall account and see who wins. As a matter of fact i'll extend that bet to everyone on this site. Easy money.
If you really think that a car that has just done 0-180 in 27.9 seconds will take another 13.9 seconds(=41.8 AMS#) to go the remaining 6.4mph you deserve to lose your money. Especially when that same car did the previous 10 seconds in 4.4 seconds.

If I interpret your posts correctly you will want to do a GPS based test anyhow (even if nobody participates in your bet)

BTW: You might also consider posting a video of the speedo while doing a 60-300 run (like in the youtoube link above)?

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brauch said:
Were these runs done both ways? If not slope and wind make an absolutely huge difference. If you give me the airport and runway number I'll give you the slope, if any.

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aah986 said:
I agree with you the z06 needs about 4 or 5 seconds from 180 to 186 BUT there is something off with your numbers. There is a youtube clip of a z06 doing 0-190 on an airbase and assuming its speedo is accurate which most likely is not, you can see that the car does 20-180 in about 35 seconds. Either your accelerometer is inaccurate or just maybe your car is making more HP than you think .