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Porschephiles are unbelieveable. They pick and choose certain perf. criteria which display the Porsche faster. We are told the Ring times only count and 0-62 acceleration test are for dragsters and not pure sport cars.
This GERMAN test has the 997TT with a better time than the Z06. After 62mph the Z06 trounces the 997 until what 275km? Then the 997 catches up but at is unable to exceed 300kmph while the Z06 continues to 315. The Z06 has a faster Ring time. Every majopr magazine which tested the two cars in all types of venues has had the Z06 not only beating but shellacking the 997TT.
How can anyone extrapolate these numbers and conclude the 997TT is faster than the Z06. Factor in all other test including track time and it is no contest in favor of the Z06.
I find also interesting that we now have doubter's regarding the 599 times. The numbers were transposed? Or that Ferrari had a team accompany the 599 for the test. Is there no end to your hubris in favor the inverted bathtub with the funky looks?
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Would argue today's new car prices are awfully cheap, esp given the lack of car price inflation over past 10-15 yrs
You are the car maker's dream of a customer
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Porschephiles are unbelieveable. They pick and choose certain perf. criteria which display the Porsche faster. We are told the Ring times only count and 0-62 acceleration test are for dragsters and not pure sport cars.
This GERMAN test has the 997TT with a better time than the Z06. After 62mph the Z06 trounces the 997 until what 275km? Then the 997 catches up but at is unable to exceed 300kmph while the Z06 continues to 315. The Z06 has a faster Ring time. Every majopr magazine which tested the two cars in all types of venues has had the Z06 not only beating but shellacking the 997TT.
How can anyone extrapolate these numbers and conclude the 997TT is faster than the Z06. Factor in all other test including track time and it is no contest in favor of the Z06.
I find also interesting that we now have doubter's regarding the 599 times. The numbers were transposed? Or that Ferrari had a team accompany the 599 for the test. Is there no end to your hubris in favor the inverted bathtub with the funky looks?
Oct 26, 2006 6:23:17 AM
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Wow! The 599 is fast. It seems to get faster with each test. Too bad they didn't do a top speed test.
1. I've been told tonight by one of our sources that there has been a typo and that the SLR numbers have been mixed up with the 599 numbers, with the exception of the top speed.
Since this hasn't been confirmed yet by AMS, we should wait until we know for sure.
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I suspect that somewhere between 250-300kph hour the driver shifted the Z06 into 6th gear. This would be the reason for a slow 0-300k time. Also, the Z06 hits its top speed in 5th gear, so maybe this is why the top speed is low.. This is just a hunch, but I would bet money on it..
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Porschephiles are unbelieveable. They pick and choose certain perf. criteria which display the Porsche faster. We are told the Ring times only count and 0-62 acceleration test are for dragsters and not pure sport cars.
This GERMAN test has the 997TT with a better time than the Z06. After 62mph the Z06 trounces the 997 until what 275km? Then the 997 catches up but at is unable to exceed 300kmph while the Z06 continues to 315. The Z06 has a faster Ring time. Every majopr magazine which tested the two cars in all types of venues has had the Z06 not only beating but shellacking the 997TT.
How can anyone extrapolate these numbers and conclude the 997TT is faster than the Z06. Factor in all other test including track time and it is no contest in favor of the Z06.
I find also interesting that we now have doubter's regarding the 599 times. The numbers were transposed? Or that Ferrari had a team accompany the 599 for the test. Is there no end to your hubris in favor the inverted bathtub with the funky looks?
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I suspect that somewhere between 250-300kph hour the driver shifted the Z06 into 6th gear. This would be the reason for a slow 0-300k time. Also, the Z06 hits its top speed in 5th gear, so maybe this is why the top speed is low.. This is just a hunch, but I would bet money on it..
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ocnatv said:
I suspect that somewhere between 250-300kph hour the driver shifted the Z06 into 6th gear. This would be the reason for a slow 0-300k time. Also, the Z06 hits its top speed in 5th gear, so maybe this is why the top speed is low.. This is just a hunch, but I would bet money on it..
The Germans literally invented performance driving. Do you really think the drivers of the best car magazine in the world with decades of experience are dumb enough to do something like that?
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ocnatv said:
I suspect that somewhere between 250-300kph hour the driver shifted the Z06 into 6th gear. This would be the reason for a slow 0-300k time. Also, the Z06 hits its top speed in 5th gear, so maybe this is why the top speed is low.. This is just a hunch, but I would bet money on it..
The Germans literally invented performance driving. Do you really think the drivers of the best car magazine in the world with decades of experience are dumb enough to do something like that?
Crash - sorry to enlighten you But, I dont think the Germans invented it.
What German car in 1906 could do 127 mph? What German car in 1907 could do almost 150mph? Porsche production models weren't hitting those speeds until ...1970.
Steamed about that?
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ocnatv said:
I suspect that somewhere between 250-300kph hour the driver shifted the Z06 into 6th gear. This would be the reason for a slow 0-300k time. Also, the Z06 hits its top speed in 5th gear, so maybe this is why the top speed is low.. This is just a hunch, but I would bet money on it..
The Germans literally invented performance driving. Do you really think the drivers of the best car magazine in the world with decades of experience are dumb enough to do something like that?
Crash - sorry to enlighten you But, I dont think the Germans invented it.
What German car in 1906 could do 127 mph? What German car in 1907 could do almost 150mph? None.
Steamed about that?
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The 599GTB is a fast car. However it is from the Schumacher era - wich taints any Ferrari ownership experience imho-because of his unsportsman like conduct in his career at Ferrari.
Oct 26, 2006 2:40:15 PM
Oct 26, 2006 2:45:56 PM
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The 599GTB is a fast car. However it is from the Schumacher era - wich taints any Ferrari ownership experience imho-because of his unsportsman like conduct in his career at Ferrari.
That may be the funniest post I've ever read. Surely you aren't serious? I don't see a smiley...
Gary
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Turbo said:
P.S.: Looks like Congaman can wrap my present (look at the 0-300 time of the Z06)
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P.S.: Looks like Congaman can wrap my present (look at the 0-300 time of the Z06)
Yap, if these times are correct then you will get the promised Xmas card.....but still I don't know how the test was performed and I'm still in doubt....the real life race is still up....I'm just wating for a respons from the other guy who accepted my challange....after the AMS test he would have nothing to fear....
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355Spider said:
I did some testing in my Z06 today for the standing mile. This will show how far off these monkeys are on the Z06. Refer to my standing mile thread for details.
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I did some testing in my Z06 today for the standing mile. This will show how far off these monkeys are on the Z06. Refer to my standing mile thread for details.
Don't be so disrespectful. I would wager that there was a flaw in your testing procedures. If a car does 200-250 km/h in 7 seconds (19 seconds total), there is NO WAY it is going to do the remaining 50 km/h in 8 seconds. Check your test data.