Oct 11, 2006 4:45:16 PM
- 997turbocab
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Oct 11, 2006 4:45:16 PM
Oct 11, 2006 8:53:32 PM
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997turbocab said:
While I'm waiting for the 997TTcab to get released I've had lots of "free time" researching some other makes/models. It looks like re-sale of a Carrera GT is close to the "market value" of the F430 Spider. If all things were equal and you only had room for one supercar in your garage that you drove once a week which would you choose?
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nberry said:
quirky clutch
i think mike (w8mm) has explained this over and over again...
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997turbocab said:
While I'm waiting for the 997TTcab to get released I've had lots of "free time" researching some other makes/models. It looks like re-sale of a Carrera GT is close to the "market value" of the F430 Spider. If all things were equal and you only had room for one supercar in your garage that you drove once a week which would you choose?
I own a 430 Spider and have driven the CGT several times. If it is perf. your after CGT beats most if not all cars. But it has its downside. Low front end, few stability devices, high cost maintenance, jarring ride, quirky clutch and huge depreciation. Also there is literally no storage room. I read recently where a CGT wanted to drive his CGT for an overnight stay with his wife and he had to have another car follow him with the luggage.
The 430 in my view is much more fun to drive and has good luggage space.. It does not have the acceleration of the CGT but it has manageable power which can be exploited by pretty good drivers. I always felt the CGT was too much car especially for me and I suspect most people. Make a mistake with the CGT your probably dead or seriously injured. The 430 has progressive stability safety devices depending on how you want to drive the car. The 430 will retain its value.
The CGT is hard to drive fast but if your able to do so there is no other car on the planet which will reward you like the CGT. The 430 is easy to drive fast especially with F1 and is rewarding despite the lack the challenge compared to the CGT.
Oct 12, 2006 4:16:55 AM
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DavidSF said:
There's no comparison. The F430 Spyder is IMHO the worst looking $200k convertible car on the market. Consider these styling faults, and yes I've seen one in person:
1) ugly, hideous, front bumper.
2) weird, after-market looking humps.
3) cheap looking roll bars (not appropriate for a $200k convertible).
4) rice, tacky, clear engine cover with "Godzilla" vents along the sides.
5) rear diffuser looks after-market and not well integrated.
If you want to know what a $200k convertible should look like take a look at the Bently GTC and Lambo Gallardo Spyder. No weird humps or cheap roll bars. EVO in the September issue says the Gallardo Spyder is better than the F430 Spyder due to the F430 Spyder's styling deficients. It's a shame Ferrari is spitting on their customers' faces with these inferior looking cars because they know they can get away with it due to producing low volume. Ferrari won't last long if they continue to take advantage of their customers. Customers will soon stop buying such vulgar (EVO's words, not mine) cars as the F430 Spyder once other options (R8, new Esprit, etc) become more available.
Please consider the Gallardo Spyder instead of the F430 Spyder.
David
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devo said:
I believe that the 997tt is equally sexy.
So true
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DavidSF said:
There's no comparison. The F430 Spyder is IMHO the worst looking $200k convertible car on the market. Consider these styling faults, and yes I've seen one in person:
1) ugly, hideous, front bumper.
2) weird, after-market looking humps.
3) cheap looking roll bars (not appropriate for a $200k convertible).
4) rice, tacky, clear engine cover with "Godzilla" vents along the sides.
5) rear diffuser looks after-market and not well integrated.
If you want to know what a $200k convertible should look like take a look at the Bently GTC and Lambo Gallardo Spyder. No weird humps or cheap roll bars. EVO in the September issue says the Gallardo Spyder is better than the F430 Spyder due to the F430 Spyder's styling deficients. It's a shame Ferrari is spitting on their customers' faces with these inferior looking cars because they know they can get away with it due to producing low volume. Ferrari won't last long if they continue to take advantage of their customers. Customers will soon stop buying such vulgar (EVO's words, not mine) cars as the F430 Spyder once other options (R8, new Esprit, etc) become more available.
Please consider the Gallardo Spyder instead of the F430 Spyder.
David
david with all honesty your opinion is not shared by many. The f430 spider is one of the nicest if not the nicest convertible on the market. Wherever i seem to park my car wether it be beside an slr cgt gallardo spider and murci roadster the f430 got most of the attention. Reason being many people seem to love its look
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nberry said:
But it has its downside. Low front end, few stability devices, high cost maintenance, jarring ride, quirky clutch and huge depreciation. Also there is literally no storage room.
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997turbocab said:
While I'm waiting for the 997TTcab to get released I've had lots of "free time" researching some other makes/models. It looks like re-sale of a Carrera GT is close to the "market value" of the F430 Spider. If all things were equal and you only had room for one supercar in your garage that you drove once a week which would you choose?
I own a 430 Spider and have driven the CGT several times. If it is perf. your after CGT beats most if not all cars. But it has its downside. Low front end, few stability devices, high cost maintenance, jarring ride, quirky clutch and huge depreciation. Also there is literally no storage room. I read recently where a CGT wanted to drive his CGT for an overnight stay with his wife and he had to have another car follow him with the luggage.
The 430 in my view is much more fun to drive and has good luggage space.. It does not have the acceleration of the CGT but it has manageable power which can be exploited by pretty good drivers. I always felt the CGT was too much car especially for me and I suspect most people. Make a mistake with the CGT your probably dead or seriously injured. The 430 has progressive stability safety devices depending on how you want to drive the car. The 430 will retain its value.
The CGT is hard to drive fast but if your able to do so there is no other car on the planet which will reward you like the CGT. The 430 is easy to drive fast especially with F1 and is rewarding despite the lack the challenge compared to the CGT.
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BC911J said:
Once you start letting a cars looks and attention factors be a major factor when buying sportscars, you are no,longer sports car enthusiasts...you are then buying the car for posing. Sorry but it's true. (No offence)
997turbocab if you are a competant driver and want the 'better' car, go for the Carrera GT. Like Nick said, if you are average or below ave, go for the Ferrari....It's easier to drive fast and more practical.
If I where you btw I'd go Porsche No doubt
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I disagree. Aesthetics are definitely a major factor in a decision for buying a sports car. I know of plenty of stripped out "ugly" American cars that will walk all over any stock 997.
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I disagree. Aesthetics are definitely a major factor in a decision for buying a sports car. I know of plenty of stripped out "ugly" American cars that will walk all over any stock 997.
Of course aesthetics are important
What I meant was how other people see your car and how it attracts other peoples admiration and all that jazz.
Oct 23, 2006 7:08:32 AM
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997turbocab said:
While I'm waiting for the 997TTcab to get released I've had lots of "free time" researching some other makes/models. It looks like re-sale of a Carrera GT is close to the "market value" of the F430 Spider. If all things were equal and you only had room for one supercar in your garage that you drove once a week which would you choose?
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RC said:
The Carrera GT is no "showcar", whoever is thinking about getting one should think about it very very well. This is a car of which I can say for sure that it does NOT make the driver faster, on the contrary, it slows down any less than "good" driver since it requires a lot of driving skills to move it almost at the limit. Walter Röhrl didn't crash one without a reason.
Oct 23, 2006 12:37:34 PM