Sep 29, 2006 2:52:29 PM
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Sep 30, 2006 4:02:40 AM
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FSU-997TT said:
FACT#1 - A replacement steel rotor won't cost 6 grand......
Oct 1, 2006 2:41:22 AM
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trip said:
Fact: vastly reduced brake dust.
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993S said:
I hate brake dust so am now considering adding the PCCB option. Still not sure though. I am sure the normal brakes are more than good enough. But no brake dust is making more and more sense in my mind.
Oct 4, 2006 1:46:41 AM
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STRADALE said:
You should. It's not just about brake dust although for me it's really becoming a huge hassel everytime I wash my car it's about how your rims, wheel hubs, brake calipers and wheel bolts look after a while even when clean with the steel rotors. The steel rotors really create a mess, big mess. It's about maintaining the look of the above mentioned parts over time. Even if it didn't save un-sprung weight, maximize handling, look better AND need less cleaning maintance the fact that the PCCB's will keep the wheels/hubs/calipers etc. looking new versus what the steel rotors are doing to my car is well worth the money (to me anyway). I'll never buy a Porsche w/ steel brakes again. It was my only mistake this time around but I knew I wasn't keeping the car.
Oct 4, 2006 2:56:11 AM
Oct 4, 2006 3:07:48 AM
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atomic80 said:I got it because I felt that the brake feel was phenomenal compared to the steel brakes especially under hard driving conditions.
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ilnino said:
Is there any objective data such as stopping power, stopping distance, fade freeness, brake pedal force needed etc. to compare these 2 systems. I tracked my 930 frequently and never 'ran out of brakes' so I am having trouble justifying the expense for the PCP's in my future order.
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KresoF1 said:
It that case Walter Rohrl is among them...
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KresoF1 said:
I agree with you. But there are few issues about PCCBs that are, well, not so good...
1.Noise. Even CCMs on my F430 are noisy.
2. Wet road driving. On recent test by German AMS reaction time on both PCCBs(997 C4S) and Ceramics on Audi RS4 were slower then on regular brakes.
On track(dry) ceramics are always better.
Mike, I respect you a lot, but would you honestly recommend PCCBs to 997 Turbo buyer who will drive his Turbo 90% of time in town?
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atomic80 said:
Maybe the reason why Walter Röhrl stated that the steel brakes were adequate because he felt that most drivers would not need PCCB. Maybe he didn't think that folks would be able to tell the difference. Just an assumption but what he probably does not realize is that most of us are capable of much more than he thinks despite the fact that 99% of us probably don't drive as good as he does.
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atomic80 said:
Maybe the reason why Walter Röhrl stated that the steel brakes were adequate because he felt that most drivers would not need PCCB. Maybe he didn't think that folks would be able to tell the difference. Just an assumption but what he probably does not realize is that most of us are capable of much more than he thinks despite the fact that 99% of us probably don't drive as good as he does.
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KresoF1 said:
Mike, I respect you a lot, but would you honestly recommend PCCBs to 997 Turbo buyer who will drive his Turbo 90% of time in town?