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    My Boxster next to the Lotus Europa

    Yesterday I went for to look at a Boxster 3.2 S at a Lotus dealership, but when I got there it was sold! Shame as it was fully specced up. After a consolation drive in an Exgige 06, I was lucky enough to have a seat and a look around a Europa. So here it is next to my Boxster....



    It looks quite good in real life but as a direct competitor to the Boxster I don't think it has the edge....

    Re: My Boxster next to the Lotus Europa

    The Europa is for sure a nice car to drive but at the moment I am not convinced. I need to see it in real.
    It is expensive for what you get I think.

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    I'm a huge Lotus fan, but don't think the Europa makes a lot of sense at the moment. A Boxster/Cayman is probably just as oomfortable/practical (probably more so), looks better, and probably better performance. The Europa may have a bit better feel, but at that point, you might as well go for an Exige or Elise.

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    I have some doubts about the Europa design... IMO it looks like a kit car. It'll probably be too pricey for what you get...

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    It doesn't have the quality feel of the Box or feel as substantial when you're sitting inside. I preferred the Exige by far and I can't decide whether to trade the box for one....

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    Its a Vauxhall VX220 with different body panels. Go on take a look! Even the wing mirrors are the same!

    Boxster wins hands down.

    JZ

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    Exactly... Looking for an Europa, I would even consider Speedster Turbo as stock is selling very hardly above 25 thousands Euro . And you have powerful 200 bhp...

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    Before you buy a Elise or Exige or Europa get yourelf onto the Lotus forums. In particular check for accident threads - i know of two people who immediately sold their cars when their friends had low speed (30-40mph) accidents, sadly one of them a fatality.

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    percymon said:
    i know of two people who immediately sold their cars when their friends had low speed (30-40mph) accidents, sadly one of them a fatality.



    I wouldn't have one. Great to drive, I agree, but kit-car build quality and reliability and no safety whatsoever.

    What price your life?

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if the guy who (presumably) part-exchanged his Boxster for a piece of crap like that is regretting it already. If he's lucky he might regret it after a shunt......

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    I have to agree. I've read a few Lotus forums and the guys seem to be into the techy side big time and there seem to be loads of problems. I asked about crash protection but it was quickly pushed aside.

    I would never go for a Europa - not my cup of tea at all in any sense. The Exige was amazing to drive but too difficult to get in and out of.

    It's got me thinking though.... Anyway, I have the 2.7 987 and really fancy something faster. Maybe I should go for a 3.4 Cayman or wait a while and buy a used 997 which was amazing to drive and ticked all the boxes.

    I've been looking at a 993 but once I sat inside I realised how dated the interior looks, being a 10 year old car. Love the looks though of the exterior.

    Basically, problem is I have 2 cars - one for fun (Box) and the other for practicaility at work (Seat Altea). All the 996's I've seen are quite pricey still and the only other car I'd consider would be an M5 or Audi RS4 but they cost a bit much.

    I think with regard to the Lotus for Pounds34k you would want a bit more car for the money. At least with the Boxster you get that, although it has been a bit troublesome.

    Maybe that's why people go from a 2.7 Box to a 3.2 Box then a Carerra. I love the cars Porsche make and no matter how hard I try to convince myself I want something else, how many times the car needs things fixed (horn now), I just love the noise the car makes, the handling and the sheer fun of driving the 987.

    Maybe I'm stuck with Porsche now I've got bitten by the bug. Maybe that isn't such a bad thing!

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    Steve R said:
    Maybe I'm stuck with Porsche now I've got bitten by the bug. Maybe that isn't such a bad thing!



    Yeah, I've now owned in chronoligical order: Porsche, Lotus, Porsche, Ferrari, Porsche - every time I try something new, I miss the all round brilliance of Porsche engineering (ride, handling, quality, comfort are all top notch). The only downsides are price and straight line performance.

    I think the Europa is really disappointing - sat in it at the London motorshow and thought it was flimsy and cheaply finished (the bare finish of the Elise is actually better). And that's before contemplating the Vauxhall engine! Anyway, when the salesman heard I had a Boxster, he gave up, even though he knew I had an Elise once.

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    The problem with the Boxster is not the lack of power - its the fact its so useable, and as a result never feels really exciting but neither does it feel compromised in any way.

    Its the ultimate 2 seat package.

    As for an 987S - on a twisty road you'd be hard pushed to go any quicker than the 2.7. There might be the odd occassion where an overtake is on in the S, but maybe not in the 2.7 - hardly a big deal.

     
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