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Sep 13, 2006 4:56:30 PM

Wolvy: Junior; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 119, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 4, 2003

test drive 997 turbo

Drove the 997 turbo recently. I found the car to be very easy to drive and the acceleration is incredible. I must admit however that in the UK I just can't justify the fact that it is my car (2 year old 997S) plus Pounds45k!! I could keep my 997 and buy a brand new Boxster for the missus!

The interior is exactly the same as my car and I'm not sure how long I would keep my licence in the turbo.

I think I am going to cancel my order and get my Pounds10k deposit back. I would rather spend Pounds125k on new gallardo or a F430 than spend Pounds103k on the 997 turbo. I am sure the turbo would be a great car on the autobahn - incredibly fast, totally reliable, smooth, quiet, etc but in the UK in twisty roads with congestion and speed cameras everywhere I just can't see Pounds45k of difference between my 997 and the turbo.

I have never driven either but I would rather the sense of occassion, looks and noise of a gallardo or F430. I hope to get a test drive soon and hopefully get one or the other next year.

Anybody else feel the same?

Wolvy

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Sep 13, 2006 5:19:08 PM

Freak 2: Senior; Loc: EUROPE; Posts: 605, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 15, 2005; Reply to: Wolvy

Re: test drive 997 turbo

997 Turbo is

BUT F430 is

and

and ...

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Sep 13, 2006 5:25:25 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: Wolvy

Re: test drive 997 turbo

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Wolvy said:
Drove the 997 turbo recently. I found the car to be very easy to drive and the acceleration is incredible. I must admit however that in the UK I just can't justify the fact that it is my car (2 year old 997S) plus Pounds45k!! I could keep my 997 and buy a brand new Boxster for the missus!

The interior is exactly the same as my car and I'm not sure how long I would keep my licence in the turbo.

I think I am going to cancel my order and get my Pounds10k deposit back. I would rather spend Pounds125k on new gallardo or a F430 than spend Pounds103k on the 997 turbo. I am sure the turbo would be a great car on the autobahn - incredibly fast, totally reliable, smooth, quiet, etc but in the UK in twisty roads with congestion and speed cameras everywhere I just can't see Pounds45k of difference between my 997 and the turbo.

I have never driven either but I would rather the sense of occassion, looks and noise of a gallardo or F430. I hope to get a test drive soon and hopefully get one or the other next year.

Anybody else feel the same?

Wolvy

I think you are 100% right.

The TT needs the right roads to unveil its full potential. The F430 (I have no personal experience with the Gallardo) can be enjoyed very much also at lower speeds. You should definitively test one

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Sep 13, 2006 6:26:39 PM

carcam: Junior; Loc: nc, usa; Posts: 118, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 12, 2004; Reply to: MKSGR

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I passed on the turbo- was to replace my 997S and got an M5 instead. I know, apples and oranges and the turbo is an incredible car, just not enough for me justify the difference in price.

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Sep 13, 2006 9:18:25 PM

gbj: Newbie; Loc: UK; Posts: 12, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 28, 2005; Reply to: Wolvy

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I have to say I feel exactly the oppsoite. Where I live the Turbo will be great - twisty country lanes, very few cameras and its so discreet. While I think the Gallardo and F430 are impressive machines they're far too flashy for everyday driving.

I'm really looking forward to the Turbo and for me its the right choice.

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Sep 14, 2006 9:23:04 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Wolvy

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Wolvy said:
Drove the 997 turbo recently. I found the car to be very easy to drive and the acceleration is incredible. I must admit however that in the UK I just can't justify the fact that it is my car (2 year old 997S) plus Pounds45k!! I could keep my 997 and buy a brand new Boxster for the missus!

The interior is exactly the same as my car and I'm not sure how long I would keep my licence in the turbo.

I think I am going to cancel my order and get my Pounds10k deposit back. I would rather spend Pounds125k on new gallardo or a F430 than spend Pounds103k on the 997 turbo. I am sure the turbo would be a great car on the autobahn - incredibly fast, totally reliable, smooth, quiet, etc but in the UK in twisty roads with congestion and speed cameras everywhere I just can't see Pounds45k of difference between my 997 and the turbo.

I have never driven either but I would rather the sense of occassion, looks and noise of a gallardo or F430. I hope to get a test drive soon and hopefully get one or the other next year.

Anybody else feel the same?

Wolvy

I couldn't agree with you more!

Surely it depends, for which purpose you want the car. If you gonna drive it daily or occasionally, how many other cars you have, if you want to go stealth or like attention etc.

But basically you are absolutely right. Drive one (or both) of the Italians and you will be confirmed in you opinion even more.

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Sep 14, 2006 2:16:03 PM

edz: Rennteam Pro; Loc: South Orange County; Posts: 2022, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 11, 2005; Reply to: Wolvy

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Wolvy said:
Drove the 997 turbo recently. I found the car to be very easy to drive and the acceleration is incredible. I must admit however that in the UK I just can't justify the fact that it is my car (2 year old 997S) plus Pounds45k!! I could keep my 997 and buy a brand new Boxster for the missus!

The interior is exactly the same as my car and I'm not sure how long I would keep my licence in the turbo.

I think I am going to cancel my order and get my Pounds10k deposit back. I would rather spend Pounds125k on new gallardo or a F430 than spend Pounds103k on the 997 turbo. I am sure the turbo would be a great car on the autobahn - incredibly fast, totally reliable, smooth, quiet, etc but in the UK in twisty roads with congestion and speed cameras everywhere I just can't see Pounds45k of difference between my 997 and the turbo.

I have never driven either but I would rather the sense of occassion, looks and noise of a gallardo or F430. I hope to get a test drive soon and hopefully get one or the other next year.

Anybody else feel the same?

Wolvy

I have to agree, while the 997TT is an awsome car unless you sit inside the car and punch it, it still feels as if you are in the 997S. If you have money to burn sure go for it but otherwise as you said you can have two cars in your garage. I had the Previous Turbo model and I loved it as there was a significant in differences in looks and performance. I love the new 997TT but can not justify an additional $50K-$60K. For those lucky people that have the extra to spend, I am very happy for you and wish you happy and safe driving always

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Sep 14, 2006 3:06:06 PM

easy_rider911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 22190, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 8, 2004; Reply to: edz

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The shared interiors of the Boxster, Boxster S, Cayman and Cayman S are a joke. Similarly, 997 C2S is so similar to 997TT.Porsche mustn't just focus on parts sharing and cost cutting. They need to give each car more individual character INSIDE so that people feel they are getting something more for the extra money they put into buying a higher model.

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Sep 14, 2006 4:09:21 PM

SoCal Alan: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Orange County , United States; Posts: 7268, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 6, 2004; Reply to: edz

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edz61 said:
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Wolvy said:
Drove the 997 turbo recently. I found the car to be very easy to drive and the acceleration is incredible. I must admit however that in the UK I just can't justify the fact that it is my car (2 year old 997S) plus Pounds45k!! I could keep my 997 and buy a brand new Boxster for the missus!

The interior is exactly the same as my car and I'm not sure how long I would keep my licence in the turbo.

I think I am going to cancel my order and get my Pounds10k deposit back. I would rather spend Pounds125k on new gallardo or a F430 than spend Pounds103k on the 997 turbo. I am sure the turbo would be a great car on the autobahn - incredibly fast, totally reliable, smooth, quiet, etc but in the UK in twisty roads with congestion and speed cameras everywhere I just can't see Pounds45k of difference between my 997 and the turbo.

I have never driven either but I would rather the sense of occassion, looks and noise of a gallardo or F430. I hope to get a test drive soon and hopefully get one or the other next year.

Anybody else feel the same?

Wolvy

I have to agree, while the 997TT is an awsome car unless you sit inside the car and punch it, it still feels as if you are in the 997S. If you have money to burn sure go for it but otherwise as you said you can have two cars in your garage. I had the Previous Turbo model and I loved it as there was a significant in differences in looks and performance. I love the new 997TT but can not justify an additional $50K-$60K. For those lucky people that have the extra to spend, I am very happy for you and wish you happy and safe driving always

I completely agree. If I didn't first buy my 997S, I would have no problem going directly to the 997TT. I just don't see spending the extra $70K (including $30K depreciation on my 997S) in cash to move to the 997TT for what is essentially an extra 125 HP and 400 lbs of weight, with an exhaust sound that can't come anywhere near the sound of my PSE. In addition, the interior of the 997TT is almost exactly the same as my 997S.

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Sep 15, 2006 6:04:20 AM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: SoCal Alan

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Alan, unless you have a derestricted highway in your back yard, I don't think the 997TT makes much sense for ANYONE in the US...

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Sep 15, 2006 6:18:41 AM

SoCalHoosier: Veteran; Loc: California , United States; Posts: 896, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 13, 2003; Reply to: easy_rider911

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easy_rider911 said:
The shared interiors of the Boxster, Boxster S, Cayman and Cayman S are a joke. Similarly, 997 C2S is so similar to 997TT.Porsche mustn't just focus on parts sharing and cost cutting. They need to give each car more individual character INSIDE so that people feel they are getting something more for the extra money they put into buying a higher model.

Couldn't have said it better myself... I want more for my money whether it's burning a hole in my pocket or not.

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Sep 15, 2006 12:57:27 PM

Tony007: Co-Pilot; Loc: Leesburg FL , United States; Posts: 178, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 12, 2006; Reply to: Crash

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Alan, unless you have a derestricted highway in your back yard, I don't think the 997TT makes much sense for ANYONE in the US...

I disagree, the 997TT happens to be the fastest stoplight to stoplight drag race cars available due to it's ferocious traction off the line.

This is one of my main points for wanting to get this car.

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Sep 15, 2006 2:02:24 PM

Ed J: Pilot; Loc: London; Posts: 407, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 4, 2004; Reply to: Tony007

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Totally agree. My 997S is nearly two years old now and I love it. Where to go next is a big deal as I cannot see anything coming close - the Turbo was the obvious one but if I got Pounds55k for my 997S I also could not justify the extra Pounds55k to just go a bit faster. I probably don't utilise the power enough of my 997S and have to say I never find myself wishing I had a bit more power.

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Sep 15, 2006 8:31:57 PM

W211: Pilot; Loc:; Posts: 410, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 18, 2003; Reply to: Tony007

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Alan, unless you have a derestricted highway in your back yard, I don't think the 997TT makes much sense for ANYONE in the US...

I disagree, the 997TT happens to be the fastest stoplight to stoplight drag race cars available due to it's ferocious traction off the line.

This is one of my main points for wanting to get this car.

So who's going to dominate today, power or traction. With my old E55, it was always the former but with AWD and an excellent chassis, traction has not let me down and I can explore the mad acceleration.

I truly find the car very enjoyable in North America.

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Sep 15, 2006 9:00:59 PM

LoranTw: Senior; Loc: Canada; Posts: 569, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 14, 2006; Reply to: W211

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W211 said:
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Crash said:
Alan, unless you have a derestricted highway in your back yard, I don't think the 997TT makes much sense for ANYONE in the US...

I disagree, the 997TT happens to be the fastest stoplight to stoplight drag race cars available due to it's ferocious traction off the line.

This is one of my main points for wanting to get this car.

So who's going to dominate today, power or traction. With my old E55, it was always the former but with AWD and an excellent chassis, traction has not let me down and I can explore the mad acceleration.

I truly find the car very enjoyable in North America.

Me too...lets face it, a basic 911 travels much faster than the speed public roads were designed and there are lots in North america...so why would they(997TT) be anymore impractical than lets say, any other sports car...lest we offend.

I find this car a real blast...I can't believe how capable the awd system used in the Turbo.

Great for Canadian roads

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Sep 16, 2006 1:49:13 AM

Neil Schneider: Co-Pilot; Loc: New Jersey, USA; Posts: 278, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2006; Reply to: Crash

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Is there a deresticted highway in the USA???

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Sep 16, 2006 2:01:44 AM

Turbo Al: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Rochester, New York , United States; Posts: 2531, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: Neil Schneider

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Is there a deresticted highway in the USA???

Yes, wherever there isn't any radar-if a tree falls in a forest and there is nobody there to hear it, does it make a sound?

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Sep 16, 2006 4:48:04 AM

atomic80: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Bellevue, WA USA , United States; Posts: 2596, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2006; Reply to: Neil Schneider

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Is there a deresticted highway in the USA???

Nevada tends to host an event annually where there's no speed limits between a stretch on certain highways. One of them is the Silver State Classic. I think there was another one where Richard Losee totalled his Enzo not too long ago.

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Sep 16, 2006 7:38:54 AM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: atomic80

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Drag racing doesn't really matter to me as real enjoyment on straight roads doesn't begin until after 200 km/h. This is something I can't see myself doing in NA, without being thrown in jail. The C2S will probably stay with the 997TT just fine in the twisties, especially with the sport chassis, this is what I was referring to. However, if drag racing is your thing, go ahead, it will be great at that.

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