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Mar 13, 2004 9:26:28 AM
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carrageous said:
I know you live in Galicia, but were any of your family or friends touched by this horrendous act?
Mar 13, 2004 12:42:10 PM
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Curiously almost 1/3 of the dead were inmigrants going to work, from 12 different nationalities.
Mar 15, 2004 12:28:52 AM
Mar 15, 2004 6:29:33 AM
Mar 15, 2004 6:49:53 AM
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carlos fromspain said:
Curiously almost 1/3 of the dead were inmigrants going to work, from 12 different nationalities. Many were ilegal inmigrants so the family members were afraid to claim their bodies in case they were deported and didn't know what to do. Fortunately the goverment has given instructions to give the spanish citizenship no questions asked to all of them and their families and collect also the compensation after this and that they should fear nothing.
Mar 15, 2004 7:03:50 AM
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RC said:
I'm a little bit disappointed and sad that the terrorists succeeded in changing the outcome of the spanish elections (no matter what political party I support or not) because terrorism should NEVER make us their puppet. Yes, I'm scared too but I don't want to give in. NEVER.
Mar 15, 2004 12:38:22 PM
Mar 15, 2004 12:56:21 PM
Mar 15, 2004 1:34:26 PM
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carlos fromspain said:Quote:
I'm VERY disappointed, for one, because like you said, a terrorist attack by AlQaeda should not decide who is in power here and people should vote with their brains, not feelings. And second, because the socialist party who won will not support the US like the outgoing popular party and thay have no clue about macro-economics, so much for the fastest growing economy in the last decade of the European Union.
Carlos,
You are not alone at being surprised by the outcome of the Spanish elections. But as we discussed before elsewhere, it really is impossible to put the outcome down to any one issue. No doubt the attack had an effect but what was that effect? As we already know, Spain's participation in Iraq was deeply at odds with the Spanish public's wishes (though we've argued about the extent of this public disapproval). So would it be surprising that the public voted against the outgoing government on this issue?
Personally, I am very pleased to hear this new Spanish criticism of the Iraqi situation and particularly the very undiplomatically criticism of Blair and Bush.
On the economy, if you are correct that the socialists will damage Spain's economy, and that Iraq was one a significant reason that the current government lost, then it follows that the current government's decision to support the USA on Iraq has just resulted in the socialist's victory and has cost Spain its economy -- something that clearly is at odds with the best interests of the Spanish people.
Stephen
p.s. BBC is reporting now that the vote was a punishment vote for the People's Party for their swift blame of the attacks on ETA without any real evidence -- i.e. a suspicion that the government was lying to the public on the issue.
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A lot of people worldwide who criticize the US for their actions after 9/11 seem to forget that the destruction of the WTC towers killed people from dozens of different nationalities and religions.
I am very critical of many of the USA's actions post 9-11.
I have not forgot that the 9-11 attack many people from dozens of nationalities and religions.
Christian, you seem to be confusing the USA's actions in Iraq with 9-11. The two are totally unrelated.
Stephen
Mar 15, 2004 2:06:08 PM
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Christian, you seem to be confusing the USA's actions in Iraq with 9-11. The two are totally unrelated.
Mar 15, 2004 2:19:11 PM
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carrageous said:
Apparently NOT in the viewpoint of Al Qaeda. Spain has been punished by Al Qaeda for its participation in removing Saddam from power. That seems to be a pretty direct relationship.
Mar 15, 2004 2:19:46 PM
Mar 15, 2004 2:32:02 PM
Mar 15, 2004 4:36:35 PM
The spanish people actually "punished" the government for their slow information policy. But as soon as they realize that they actually played into the hands of the terrorists, a lot of people in Spain will get a bad headache, I'm sure about it. 
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