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Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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KresoF1 said:
First test of new BMW 335i Coupe in today's Auto Zeitung...
BMW 335i Coupe(automatic)
0-100km/h: 5.3s
0-160km/h:11.9s
0-200km/h:18.7s
Ladies and gents, this is automatic version, manual is even faster!
That's very fast! And it's only a normal vehicle, not an M car.
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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Grant said:
I wonder if it can be "chipped" for an extra 75hp like many turbos for very little money?
Probably can be, but why would you? A daily driver should be perfectly reliable IMO, something which chipping it can't guarantee.
A finely engineering car like a BMW or Porsche Turbo should be able to handle an additional 25% power without any major long-term problems. I know a 996TT certainly can...
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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KresoF1 said:
First test of new BMW 335i Coupe in today's Auto Zeitung...
BMW 335i Coupe(automatic)
0-100km/h: 5.3s
0-160km/h:11.9s
0-200km/h:18.7s
Ladies and gents, this is automatic version, manual is even faster!
Bloody hell that's fast!
Now it it only was better looking...
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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KresoF1 said:
First test of new BMW 335i Coupe in today's Auto Zeitung...
BMW 335i Coupe(automatic)
0-100km/h: 5.3s
0-160km/h:11.9s
0-200km/h:18.7s
Ladies and gents, this is automatic version, manual is even faster!
The numbers are credible: I recently met a 335i (a Touring test car from Munich - not the Coupe) in my A8. Up to 200kph the BMW was not significantly slower than my car! Only above 200kph a quite substantial gap opened.
The BMW is really fast for that kind of money
I guess, I like it (it's actually quite some time ago that I said something like that about a BMW 
)
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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Rossi said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:
First test of new BMW 335i Coupe in today's Auto Zeitung...
BMW 335i Coupe(automatic)
0-100km/h: 5.3s
0-160km/h:11.9s
0-200km/h:18.7s
Ladies and gents, this is automatic version, manual is even faster!
Bloody hell that's fast!
Now it it only was better looking...
Don't aske me why: the 335i Touring I met looked pretty attractive... With the right rims and a good color.
BTW: The new X5 has a rather tradional style (no Bangle elements). I wonder whether BMW will get back to their traditional desgin. If so, this would clearly be a step into the right direction
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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MKSGR said:Quote:
Rossi said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:
First test of new BMW 335i Coupe in today's Auto Zeitung...
BMW 335i Coupe(automatic)
0-100km/h: 5.3s
0-160km/h:11.9s
0-200km/h:18.7s
Ladies and gents, this is automatic version, manual is even faster!
Bloody hell that's fast!
Now it it only was better looking...
Don't aske me why: the 335i Touring I met looked pretty attractive... With the right rims and a good color.
BTW: The new X5 has a rather tradional style (no Bangle elements). I wonder whether BMW will get back to their traditional desgin. If so, this would clearly be a step into the right direction
Yes I agree. The touring looks alright. A little bit overdone at the rear, but otherwise it's okay. I was talking about the new Coupé, but I still have to see one in person. On pics it doesn't look good to me, very boring, Japanese design IMO.
And you are absolutely right about the new X5. The first new BMW within years with a rather pretty design (and it's SUV!
). I would appreciate a change in their design philosophy as well.
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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Crash said:Quote:
Grant said:
I wonder if it can be "chipped" for an extra 75hp like many turbos for very little money?
Probably can be, but why would you? A daily driver should be perfectly reliable IMO, something which chipping it can't guarantee.
You can easely get 35 HP more out of the Audi/VW 1.8 l turbo with a chip with absolutly no problems. Had one for 6 years.
The same with the the S4 turbo engine .. 20 % power increse is safe
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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Gnil said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
Grant said:
I wonder if it can be "chipped" for an extra 75hp like many turbos for very little money?
Probably can be, but why would you? A daily driver should be perfectly reliable IMO, something which chipping it can't guarantee.
You can easely get 35 HP more out of the Audi/VW 1.8 l turbo with a chip with absolutly no problems. Had one for 6 years.
The same with the the S4 turbo engine .. 20 % power increse is safe
I know this, but look at Kreso's post regarding the VW Golf GTI, which detonated due to an ABT chip. Not saying they can't be reliable, but how do you guarantee that?
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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Crash said:Quote:
Gnil said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
Grant said:
I wonder if it can be "chipped" for an extra 75hp like many turbos for very little money?
Probably can be, but why would you? A daily driver should be perfectly reliable IMO, something which chipping it can't guarantee.
You can easely get 35 HP more out of the Audi/VW 1.8 l turbo with a chip with absolutly no problems. Had one for 6 years.
The same with the the S4 turbo engine .. 20 % power increse is safe
I know this, but look at Kreso's post regarding the VW Golf GTI, which detonated due to an ABT chip. Not saying they can't be reliable, but how do you guarantee that?
A factory engine can also break, no garantee against that but to replace it for free. In my opinion/ experience, the risk with a 20 % HP increase on a turbo engine is low and I would take it without any hesitation ( but done by a proper tuner) The ABT chips here is Switzerland on VW/Audi are factory guaranteed.... that says also something.
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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Gnil said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
Gnil said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
Grant said:
I wonder if it can be "chipped" for an extra 75hp like many turbos for very little money?
Probably can be, but why would you? A daily driver should be perfectly reliable IMO, something which chipping it can't guarantee.
You can easely get 35 HP more out of the Audi/VW 1.8 l turbo with a chip with absolutly no problems. Had one for 6 years.
The same with the the S4 turbo engine .. 20 % power increse is safe
I know this, but look at Kreso's post regarding the VW Golf GTI, which detonated due to an ABT chip. Not saying they can't be reliable, but how do you guarantee that?
A factory engine can also break, no garantee against that but to replace it for free. In my opinion/ experience, the risk with a 20 % HP increase on a turbo engine is low and I would take it without any hesitation ( but done by a proper tuner) The ABT chips here is Switzerland on VW/Audi are factory guaranteed.... that says also something.
If they offer warranty, that's a different matter.
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
Another excellent 335i Coupe review, this time in USA.
Look at dyno results!
http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/0609_2007_bmw_335i_dynamometer/
Look at dyno results!
http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/0609_2007_bmw_335i_dynamometer/
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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KresoF1 said:
Another excellent 335i Coupe review, this time in USA.
Look at dyno results!
http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/0609_2007_bmw_335i_dynamometer/
So, 275 RWHP plus about 20% by chipping it... That equals 330 RWHP! That would make even the new M3 seem very uninspiring.
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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Jeannot said:
Pretty fast indeed. This car and the upcoming M are going to raise more "Porsche give us more HP" conversations :-)
Porsche Cayman is taking a big "gulp" at the moment. This angers me because the Cayman looks so attractive, until you look at the price tag !!
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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KresoF1 said:
Another excellent 335i Coupe review, this time in USA.
Look at dyno results!
http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/0609_2007_bmw_335i_dynamometer/
275 to the wheels? Smells a bit fishy though
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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KresoF1 said:
BMW under-rated power data for 335i. Actual power is around 330-340hp/420-440Nm! The same thing as Porsche did for its Turbo engine's for sometime...
340 horsepower sounds about right. Just a tad slower than the M3 at a higher weight. At 20% extra power with a chip, that translates into 410 horsepower!
If you want to get frisky, you might even get 430. That would put it in the high-15-second 0-200 km/h territory. And all that for 40.000 USD. Boy, are Americans lucky.
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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Crash said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:
BMW under-rated power data for 335i. Actual power is around 330-340hp/420-440Nm! The same thing as Porsche did for its Turbo engine's for sometime...
340 horsepower sounds about right. Just a tad slower than the M3 at a higher weight. At 20% extra power with a chip, that translates into 410 horsepower!
This could be my next car if only it isnt as ugly in person
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
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Hurst said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:
BMW under-rated power data for 335i. Actual power is around 330-340hp/420-440Nm! The same thing as Porsche did for its Turbo engine's for sometime...
340 horsepower sounds about right. Just a tad slower than the M3 at a higher weight. At 20% extra power with a chip, that translates into 410 horsepower!
This could be my next car if only it isnt as ugly in person
Seems like a really cost-effective way of getting a superfast daily driver for a reasonable amount of money. I mean, it costs the same as an Audi A6 in the States.
Re: BMW 335i Coupe first test
Its a hideous looking car. The new 3 series looks like a BMW had sex with a Honda and then ran to a Triumph TR 7 abortion clinic. 
BMW should update their branding statements to reflect their new company design philosophy.
The old message: "BMW Fast As Schnell"
to
The new message: "BMW Ugly As Hell"
That car is a nasty piece of design work.
BMW should update their branding statements to reflect their new company design philosophy.
The old message: "BMW Fast As Schnell"
to
The new message: "BMW Ugly As Hell"
That car is a nasty piece of design work.
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