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Lots of sour grapes on here. It's funny because when you ask Vette owners who has nicer build quality, the Z06 or the TT. The will all say the TT does. But when you ask which is faster the Porsche guys will never admit the Z might be faster. The TT is a great car, one o the best, but it just can't beat the Z06 in every category and there's nothing wrong with that. GM put together a car that would be a stunning performer and if you have every driven one you would believe it. Yeah the interior is mid grade materials but it's very well put together and that's exactly what they intended. MSN auto just rated the Vette on top for quality for the 3rd year in a row(http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4020223). Sure they use mid grade materials but that's the point.
And why are we supposed to trust Porsche and their Ring times and not trust GM? And they are all done with flying starts. What kind of [censored] would publish one that is not when they can get a faster time with one. Everything I have ever read references flying starts.
I would be a little more upset if I owned a Ford GT. Of all of the races I have seen between those 2 the Z comes out on top.
You guys should give the Z06 it's props. It's due them. It's just ugly when you can't admit what everyone else can clearly see.
Ferraris and Lambos are more beautiful and passionate than Porsches and very few of you will argue that. It doesn't make Porsche any less great of a car. So what if the Z is faster. The TT is still the TT if you know what I mean.
Nobpdy is disputing the fact that the C6Z is SERIOUSLY fast. What I am disputing is the fact that it will be faster on winding roads, where its track prowess might prove to be a hindrance. It was the same with the old GT2 and Turbo, where the Turbo was often found to be faster on normal roads, due to uneven surfaces.
Don't think people here don't like Corvettes, most of us do. However, we dislike the idiots wo come here and troll our boards, touting the Corvette as the best sports car there is, better than all the euro trash overpriced Porsches and threatening to blow all our doors off (you know who ).
Personally, I can't wait to see what the new Blue Devil/Stingray/SS can do, as long as the owners keep their big mouths shut and play nice.
Regarding ring times, Porsche are the ones who startzed the Ring craze. Why we can trust them? Because these times are always replicated by magazines, uaing a standing start. Chevrolet, on the other hand, has nothing but their word to prove it. Wait for the new supertests of the Corvette and the Turbo. You'll see.
Good post Crash. Totally agree on the daily driving ease of awd. I also agree on trolls. I read a couple of other boards. On the corvetteforum, the same couple of idiots come out when the P word is mentioned only to [censored] off a couple of the idiots willing to spew redneck garbage. No different that the idiots on this board that spew the "why would I own a crappy plastic corvette if I can afford a finely german engineered 'you obviously don't understand it' Porsche."
Different strokes for different folks. At the track, I sure enjoy talking with the Lotus guys, the P guys, the Ferrari guys and obviously the Corvette guys. Most people who truly enjoy racing just like cars.
I agree, there has to be mutual respect. Don't say bad things about our overpriced VW Bugs and we won't insult your plastic with wheels
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Dock,
I know what you said. However, are you sure they actually checked with PAG or did somebody just decide to play expert and blurt something out? Not that I would want to ignore it, but this is honestly the first time I've heard it.
SoCalHoosier:
Again, I have more faith in our European members than some PCNA guy who claimed to call Porsche. Do I actually care? No. However, I'd prefer to have all the facts. Let's wait what RC says and then you can sit there in disbelief all you want.