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May 2, 2008 4:57:46 PM
- easy_rider911
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Re: PDK.....
Agree. I cannot believe PAG would spend this many years developing PDK with an interim 'button' design for 1 year followed by 'paddles' after 1 year.
I think the real motivation behind this rumour (which, in my view, is without any factual basis) is that someone is disappointed with the fact that there will be buttons (not paddles) and he/she wants to peddle a rumour that the buttons are temporary only.
I would suggest people here should exercise a little more discernment as to whom they believe.
Worse still is when people simply spread rumours without any evidence to back it up. It's irresponsible and it undermines the credibility and integrity of Rennteam. This site is not like other websites. It is non commercial and does not need to spread sensationalist or headline-grabbing rumours in order to attract sponsors and page hits. It seeks to inform using credible information and not to disseminate blatant misinformation.
Please bear this in mind in future for the benefit of us all. After all, anybody can play a p*ssing game about who broke the 'news' first. But p*ssing games are only really won by people with genuine hard info.
As for the paddle vs button debate, for heaven's sake, let's see what the design is actually like to use before passing premature judgment. All we've seen are technical drawings from patent applications (which are illustrative of design concepts only rather than being pictorially accurate - ask any patent lawyer this). Let's try it first. PAG may have come up with something even more user-friendly than steering column mounted paddles.
I think the real motivation behind this rumour (which, in my view, is without any factual basis) is that someone is disappointed with the fact that there will be buttons (not paddles) and he/she wants to peddle a rumour that the buttons are temporary only.
I would suggest people here should exercise a little more discernment as to whom they believe.
Worse still is when people simply spread rumours without any evidence to back it up. It's irresponsible and it undermines the credibility and integrity of Rennteam. This site is not like other websites. It is non commercial and does not need to spread sensationalist or headline-grabbing rumours in order to attract sponsors and page hits. It seeks to inform using credible information and not to disseminate blatant misinformation.
Please bear this in mind in future for the benefit of us all. After all, anybody can play a p*ssing game about who broke the 'news' first. But p*ssing games are only really won by people with genuine hard info.
As for the paddle vs button debate, for heaven's sake, let's see what the design is actually like to use before passing premature judgment. All we've seen are technical drawings from patent applications (which are illustrative of design concepts only rather than being pictorially accurate - ask any patent lawyer this). Let's try it first. PAG may have come up with something even more user-friendly than steering column mounted paddles.
May 2, 2008 5:01:36 PM
- reginos
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Re: PDK.....
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easy_rider911 said:
As for the paddle vs button debate, for heaven's sake, let's see what the design is actually like to use before passing premature judgment. All we've seen are technical drawings from patent applications (which are illustrative of design concepts only rather than being pictorially accurate - ask any patent lawyer this). Let's try it first. PAG may have come up with something even more user-friendly than steering column mounted paddles.
Agree!
Re: PDK.....
Wow sorry for the upset, I was ust passing on what I was told by someone with the job title "Porsche Specialist" at OPC Reading - I felt there was credibility by the definitive manner in which the message was delivered and the link of OPC Reading to Porsche Head Office. I clearly do not know, but was just sharing. Again apologies!
May 2, 2008 5:55:45 PM
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Re: PDK.....
Thanks for clarifying your source mex99. Unfortunately it only confirms what I suspected.
A Porsche 'Specialist' at OPC Reading is merely a salesman or workshop technician at that dealership. As such, he/she is certain not to have hard factual data about what will happen 1 year after the introduction of PDK (i.e. Summer 2009). Info like that, if it's true, would, at this stage, only be held within PAG in Stuttgart and its R&D division in Weissach.
NB OPC Reading is, along with 4 other UK dealerships, a wholly owned subsidiary of Porsche Cars GB. PCGB itself is merely the importer of Porsche cars for GB. It started off life as an independent importer called AFN but PCGB is now a subsidiary of PAG but it would not be privy to this kind of info at this point in time.
As such, I'm afraid you've been told a very casual, unreliable remark by an apparently authoritative source.
I don't mean to offend by criticising this rumour or the somewhat blunt tone I have adopted. But if I have offended you, I'm sorry. However, I stand by the substance of my earlier message.
Have a good weekend guys.
A Porsche 'Specialist' at OPC Reading is merely a salesman or workshop technician at that dealership. As such, he/she is certain not to have hard factual data about what will happen 1 year after the introduction of PDK (i.e. Summer 2009). Info like that, if it's true, would, at this stage, only be held within PAG in Stuttgart and its R&D division in Weissach.
NB OPC Reading is, along with 4 other UK dealerships, a wholly owned subsidiary of Porsche Cars GB. PCGB itself is merely the importer of Porsche cars for GB. It started off life as an independent importer called AFN but PCGB is now a subsidiary of PAG but it would not be privy to this kind of info at this point in time.
As such, I'm afraid you've been told a very casual, unreliable remark by an apparently authoritative source.
I don't mean to offend by criticising this rumour or the somewhat blunt tone I have adopted. But if I have offended you, I'm sorry. However, I stand by the substance of my earlier message.
Have a good weekend guys.
May 2, 2008 6:07:14 PM
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May 2, 2008 6:14:40 PM
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Re: PDK.....
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easy_rider911 said:
Agree. I cannot believe PAG would spend this many years developing PDK with an interim 'button' design for 1 year followed by 'paddles' after 1 year.
I think the real motivation behind this rumour (which, in my view, is without any factual basis) is that someone is disappointed with the fact that there will be buttons (not paddles) and he/she wants to peddle a rumour that the buttons are temporary only.
I would suggest people here should exercise a little more discernment as to whom they believe.
Worse still is when people simply spread rumours without any evidence to back it up. It's irresponsible and it undermines the credibility and integrity of Rennteam. This site is not like other websites. It is non commercial and does not need to spread sensationalist or headline-grabbing rumours in order to attract sponsors and page hits. It seeks to inform using credible information and not to disseminate blatant misinformation.
Please bear this in mind in future for the benefit of us all. After all, anybody can play a p*ssing game about who broke the 'news' first. But p*ssing games are only really won by people with genuine hard info.
As for the paddle vs button debate, for heaven's sake, let's see what the design is actually like to use before passing premature judgment. All we've seen are technical drawings from patent applications (which are illustrative of design concepts only rather than being pictorially accurate - ask any patent lawyer this). Let's try it first. PAG may have come up with something even more user-friendly than steering column mounted paddles.
+1
Re: PDK.....
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mex99 said:
Wow sorry for the upset, I was ust passing on what I was told by someone with the job title "Porsche Specialist" at OPC Reading - I felt there was credibility by the definitive manner in which the message was delivered and the link of OPC Reading to Porsche Head Office. I clearly do not know, but was just sharing. Again apologies!
which one of the Porsche Specialist guys at Reading ?I've spoken to 2 of them whose first names start with C & G and both of them haven't confirmed this to me.
Re: New 3.6 Carrera
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Mikla said:
I believe the base Carrera with PDK and sport exhaust will be the best value 911... except a low mileage 997 Carrera S Mk1, of course!
Even so, do you believe the PDK will be enough to go for the Mk2?
I could assure you that the PDK will be superfast, faster than F-cars F1. Porsche will not hold back this long and then release a coffee machine
Not sure about that. Don't think the average 911 buyer would appreciate being kicked around too much. The F430 Scuderia is really fast. Probably a LOT faster than most would be able to handle day-to-day.
I know too little about the PDK tech. Will they be able to make them in such a way that the driver can select how "violent" the shifts will be?
May 4, 2008 11:52:50 AM
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May 6, 2008 8:36:28 PM
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May 6, 2008 9:07:38 PM
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May 7, 2008 1:21:29 AM
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Re: New 3.6 Carrera
Memory card reader for mp3 files?
The PDF for the facelift mentions a "Universal audio interface for connecting external audio devices, e.g., Apple iPod(R) or USB stick in centre console storage compartment (AUX, USB and iPod(R) ports). iPod(R) and USB stick operated via PCM."
The PDF for the facelift mentions a "Universal audio interface for connecting external audio devices, e.g., Apple iPod(R) or USB stick in centre console storage compartment (AUX, USB and iPod(R) ports). iPod(R) and USB stick operated via PCM."
May 7, 2008 7:23:49 AM
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Re: New 3.6 Carrera
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It might look like an SD card reader, but according to the pics in the link posted by BiTurbo, the text beneath it says "SIM", implying that it will be a slot for the phone sim card.
-Joost-
According to the PI document, bluetooth choices will be optional extras:
- GSM quad-band telephone module (Bluetooth(R) SAP) (666)
- Cordless active handset for telephone module (669)
- Mobile-phone preparation with console (Bluetooth(R) HFP) (618)
- Mobile-phone preparation (Bluetooth(R) HFP) (619)
So the default will be with SIM card.
Re: New 3.6 Carrera
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Joost said:
It might look like an SD card reader, but according to the pics in the link posted by BiTurbo, the text beneath it says "SIM", implying that it will be a slot for the phone sim card.
-Joost-
According to the PI document, bluetooth choices will be optional extras:
- GSM quad-band telephone module (Bluetooth(R) SAP) (666)
- Cordless active handset for telephone module (669)
- Mobile-phone preparation with console (Bluetooth(R) HFP) (618)
- Mobile-phone preparation (Bluetooth(R) HFP) (619)
So the default will be with SIM card.
Thanks - good information!
Just not sure what this will mean - QuadBand with Bluetooth... either or...?
Re: New 3.6 Carrera
I read it as the following:-
You can have a 4 band phone module with bluetooth (i guess for connection to the cordless handset)
Or no phone module but bluetooth prep for your own phone (one with a mounting console/ the other without)
Anyway all three options are extras.....
You can have a 4 band phone module with bluetooth (i guess for connection to the cordless handset)
Or no phone module but bluetooth prep for your own phone (one with a mounting console/ the other without)
Anyway all three options are extras.....
May 7, 2008 1:55:32 PM
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