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    Jul 12, 2006 2:18:42 PM

    95jersey
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    Classic Formula One

    You'll never see F1 like this again...

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=dr_6mA8Q2tI&search=david%20hobbs

    You'll have to watch ALMS to get this kind of action these days.

    Jul 12, 2006 2:26:44 PM

    964C2
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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Quote:
    95jersey said:
    You'll never see F1 like this again...

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=dr_6mA8Q2tI&search=david%20hobbs

    You'll have to watch ALMS to get this kind of action these days.


    I remember watching this live on TV in 1979....it was awesome

    Jul 12, 2006 2:34:50 PM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    wow... never seen that... how come F1 isn't like that anymore?!?
    -Joost-

    Jul 12, 2006 2:43:23 PM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Love everyone standing on the finish line.

    Jul 12, 2006 2:44:19 PM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Quote:
    Joost said:
    wow... never seen that... how come F1 isn't like that anymore?!?
    -Joost-


    The cars rely much more on aerodynamics and you can't get that close to another car without upsetting the balance of the car, due to disturbed airflow over the aero surfaces of the chassis.

    Jul 12, 2006 2:59:45 PM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

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    Joost said:
    wow... never seen that... how come F1 isn't like that anymore?!?
    -Joost-


    1. Areodynamic - More downforce than before and the byproduct is effectihg the stability of car behind.
    2. Speed - The current F1 is alot faster than before. In "old" F1 case, Let assume one car is 3-5km/h faster after a corner. the car behind still have time to be side-by-side at the end of another corncer (not only the longest striaght).
    3. Point system.
    4. More safety concern than before. So, passing through pits stop.
    5. F1 drivers are too rich.

    Anything more?

    Jul 12, 2006 4:39:33 PM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    nice piece of racing. thx for posting it.

    Jul 12, 2006 4:40:27 PM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Quote:
    iia said:
    Quote:
    Joost said:
    wow... never seen that... how come F1 isn't like that anymore?!?
    -Joost-


    1. Areodynamic - More downforce than before and the byproduct is effectihg the stability of car behind.
    2. Speed - The current F1 is alot faster than before. In "old" F1 case, Let assume one car is 3-5km/h faster after a corner. the car behind still have time to be side-by-side at the end of another corncer (not only the longest striaght).
    3. Point system.
    4. More safety concern than before. So, passing through pits stop.
    5. F1 drivers are too rich.

    Anything more?


    Cojones?

    Jul 12, 2006 7:04:06 PM

    Joost
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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Well, thanks anyway for posting! I loved watching that footage, and I will maybe look at it some more times... this is true craftmanship... the drivers from then...
    -Joost-

    Jul 12, 2006 7:12:48 PM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Quote:
    iia said:
    1. Areodynamic - More downforce than before and the byproduct is effectihg the stability of car behind.
    2. Speed - The current F1 is alot faster than before. In "old" F1 case, Let assume one car is 3-5km/h faster after a corner. the car behind still have time to be side-by-side at the end of another corncer (not only the longest striaght).
    3. Point system.
    4. More safety concern than before. So, passing through pits stop.
    5. F1 drivers are too rich.

    Anything more?



    6. Girliemen behind the wheel.
    7. Drivers do not have to overtake other drivers to become champion.
    8. Gay midgets can also participate

    Jul 13, 2006 2:19:56 AM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Makes me realize how bad the racng has become. I still love F1, but am more looking forward to 2008 every day.

    Jul 13, 2006 3:57:44 AM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Quote:
    95jersey said:
    You'll have to watch ALMS to get this kind of action these days.



    Actually MotoGP offers this kind of action on a very regular basis. The 2006 Mugello race was particularly outstanding.

    Jul 26, 2006 10:55:11 AM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    I knew there was a reason I became an F1 fan.

    Unfortunately, tuning in now is just a habit and not a good one at that!!

    Jul 26, 2006 12:22:58 PM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Awesome Footage!!

    I remember reading Enzo Fer Biog which stated that one of his all time favourite drivers was Gilles Vill.

    Not because he was a good driver!!

    But because he always drove the car with sheer determination rather than skill.

    Jul 26, 2006 12:28:49 PM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

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    Awesome Footage!!

    I remember reading Enzo Fer Biog which stated that one of his all time favourite drivers was Gilles Vill.

    Not because he was a good driver!!

    But because he always drove the car with sheer determination rather than skill.



    This is what we want to see, not a show of money and technical excellence at the expense of entertainment!

    Jul 26, 2006 12:30:08 PM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Here Here!

    I'm on your team with this one CRASH!

    Jul 26, 2006 1:55:29 PM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Quote:
    Larry Oootzzzz said:
    Here Here!

    I'm on your team with this one CRASH!



    Jul 26, 2006 4:04:01 PM

    krown05
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    Re: Classic Formula One

    WOW! This is why I love the sport so much!

    Jul 26, 2006 7:45:06 PM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Teams then had a crew size of about 15.

    Now it is 150.

    F1 is killing itself with its own technology.

    Jul 27, 2006 1:10:24 AM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

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    Teams then had a crew size of about 15.

    Now it is 150.

    F1 is killing itself with its own technology.



    I agree with that 100%.

    Jul 27, 2006 6:40:50 AM

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    Re: Classic Formula One

    Scoff if you wish - but this is why NASCAR is so popular now even with the rich and educated.

    250 to 500 mile long races at 200 mph where the lead can
    change hands every lap and even many times in the same lap. There is constant passing and battling. That hasnt happened in F1 for decades

    The venues. The crowd is close to the action and two of the races in the season are very technical road circuits. The latest F1 circuits place the fans too far from the track.

    F1 needs to bring back racing and stop the cult of personality driver syndrome and tech over kill. They need to be more respectful to the fans and give them a better show for their money.
     
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