Jul 22, 2006 5:16:43 PM
- twinturbo001
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Jul 22, 2006 5:16:43 PM
Jul 22, 2006 5:39:27 PM
Jul 22, 2006 5:48:08 PM
Jul 22, 2006 6:44:47 PM
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crazi4speed said:
seriously dude, do you even own either?
if you do, dont rely on this fact and embaress yourself on the streets thinking, TT would have anything on the Z06 on a roll or for that matter even from the start...
Anyhow I would prefer having both in my garage..in which i would know which is king..
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X-TURBO said:
I agree with twinturbo guy. The great news is that all the red neck Z06 lovers can now shut up. I drove the ZO6 and couldn't wait to get back in my 996TT. I can only imagin how much the 997 spanks that pile.
Jul 22, 2006 10:49:06 PM
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crazi4speed said:
seriously dude, do you even own either?
if you do, dont rely on this fact and embaress yourself on the streets thinking, TT would have anything on the Z06 on a roll or for that matter even from the start...
Anyhow I would prefer having both in my garage..in which i would know which is king..
Jul 22, 2006 11:02:49 PM
Jul 22, 2006 11:57:47 PM
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twinturbo001 said:Quote:
crazi4speed said:
seriously dude, do you even own either?
if you do, dont rely on this fact and embaress yourself on the streets thinking, TT would have anything on the Z06 on a roll or for that matter even from the start...
Anyhow I would prefer having both in my garage..in which i would know which is king..
Seriously the TT would beat the Z in a street match. I am Against street racing as far to many innocent people Die from it. Think about it how can a 2 wheel drive Z beat a 4 wheel drive TT Off the line as I said the TT is the clear winner to 100+MPH and the Mags are now proving it. I have driven the Z06 and the 997 TT and I am on the list for a Z. I should place my order on the TT in September as my dealer is sold out for 2 years. What do you own??? My guess is your a Corvette guy over here on the Porsche forum telling everyone how Great the Z is. If you read the C&D article you can see that they Hated the cheap Z interior and said its harder to drive than the TT. They said the TT is "The Supreme Supercar when conditions underfoot get Tricky". Keep in mind that a Orangutang can run 11's in a TIP SCP TT while only a few can run 11's in a Z06. Don't be confused by B.S. Videos on the net of the Z06 beating every other car, most of the time the Z has been Modded to win. I think the Z is a peformance bargain but it will never be a "Exotic car"and it will never have the Quality,Technology and Fit and Finish of a Porsche.
Jul 23, 2006 7:27:49 AM
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X-TURBO said:
I drove 2006 Z and thought it had a ton of power. Exhuast sounded great when it opened up. After I got over the launch potential I couldn't help to think that it is still a cheaply made pile. Everyone says a lot of bang for the buck. I think it's over priced. Especially if you pay 5 to 10k above MSRP. It's too expensive for a track only ride and it sucks on the streets unless you want to end up in jail for the night. The TT is a lot more money but you can drive it in the rain, snow, to dinner, to the track and to work and love every minute of it. I was glad to climb out of the vette's plastic plain inerior.
Jul 23, 2006 9:06:19 AM
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twinturbo001 said:
Looks like the new TT Smokes the Z06(Car and Driver) from 0-100 which is the only test I am concerned with. Its a half a second faster 0-100. In the quarter there even at 11.7, but the Z06 needs to reach 120 MPH to catch up. The TT is also faster 0-60. Anything over 120 isn't realistic and doesn't meant [censored] to me. So I am very pleased with the Numbers and we finally see real #'s. and the 30-50 and 50-70 times are embarrassing for the Z06, the TT walks on it.
Jul 23, 2006 11:43:35 AM
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X-TURBO said:
I drove 2006 Z and thought it had a ton of power. Exhuast sounded great when it opened up. After I got over the launch potential I couldn't help to think that it is still a cheaply made pile. Everyone says a lot of bang for the buck. I think it's over priced. Especially if you pay 5 to 10k above MSRP. It's too expensive for a track only ride and it sucks on the streets unless you want to end up in jail for the night. The TT is a lot more money but you can drive it in the rain, snow, to dinner, to the track and to work and love every minute of it. I was glad to climb out of the vette's plastic plain inerior.
Jul 23, 2006 3:40:11 PM
Jul 23, 2006 4:04:48 PM
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Teva said:Quote:
twinturbo001 said:
Looks like the new TT Smokes the Z06(Car and Driver) from 0-100 which is the only test I am concerned with. Its a half a second faster 0-100. In the quarter there even at 11.7, but the Z06 needs to reach 120 MPH to catch up. The TT is also faster 0-60. Anything over 120 isn't realistic and doesn't meant [censored] to me. So I am very pleased with the Numbers and we finally see real #'s. and the 30-50 and 50-70 times are embarrassing for the Z06, the TT walks on it.
Hello,
I don't want to add any comment about TT vs Z06 discussion but just add one precision about what you wrote :
30-50 mph and 50-70 mph top-gear acceleration is not
a fair test for Z06 : just read the spec datasheet.
Final gear in z06 is rated at 44.9 pmh for 1000 rpm !
this is the famous "gas guzzler" gear...
in the TT it is 28 mph at 1000rpm in 6th gear.
So we have :
30-50 mph
Z06 comes from 668 rpm (!!) to 1100 rpm
TT comes from 1070 rpm to 2200 rpm
50-70 mph
Z06 comes from 1100 rpm up to 1560 rpm
TT comes from 2200 rpm up to 3070 rpm (right in TT best torque zone).
This explains the massive time difference between two cars.
Same test in 2nd or 3rd gear would have been much more interesting. So please be fair in you comments.
Regards.
Jul 23, 2006 5:36:37 PM
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355Spider said:Quote:
Teva said:Quote:
twinturbo001 said:
Looks like the new TT Smokes the Z06(Car and Driver) from 0-100 which is the only test I am concerned with. Its a half a second faster 0-100. In the quarter there even at 11.7, but the Z06 needs to reach 120 MPH to catch up. The TT is also faster 0-60. Anything over 120 isn't realistic and doesn't meant [censored] to me. So I am very pleased with the Numbers and we finally see real #'s. and the 30-50 and 50-70 times are embarrassing for the Z06, the TT walks on it.
Hello,
I don't want to add any comment about TT vs Z06 discussion but just add one precision about what you wrote :
30-50 mph and 50-70 mph top-gear acceleration is not
a fair test for Z06 : just read the spec datasheet.
Final gear in z06 is rated at 44.9 pmh for 1000 rpm !
this is the famous "gas guzzler" gear...
in the TT it is 28 mph at 1000rpm in 6th gear.
So we have :
30-50 mph
Z06 comes from 668 rpm (!!) to 1100 rpm
TT comes from 1070 rpm to 2200 rpm
50-70 mph
Z06 comes from 1100 rpm up to 1560 rpm
TT comes from 2200 rpm up to 3070 rpm (right in TT best torque zone).
This explains the massive time difference between two cars.
Same test in 2nd or 3rd gear would have been much more interesting. So please be fair in you comments.
Regards.
Yeah that's the dumbest test of a cars performance and if someone quotes that for their argument they don't know much about cars. I mean who cruises at 30 in 6th gear. Who came up with that test and what the heck is it trying to simulate? And when any car that's an automatic is tested they all look faster than the 5 speeds. Your average minivan with an auto will go faster 30-50 that a TT because it downshifts.
Jul 23, 2006 5:48:02 PM
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twinturbo001 said:Quote:
355Spider said:Quote:
Teva said:Quote:
twinturbo001 said:
Looks like the new TT Smokes the Z06(Car and Driver) from 0-100 which is the only test I am concerned with. Its a half a second faster 0-100. In the quarter there even at 11.7, but the Z06 needs to reach 120 MPH to catch up. The TT is also faster 0-60. Anything over 120 isn't realistic and doesn't meant [censored] to me. So I am very pleased with the Numbers and we finally see real #'s. and the 30-50 and 50-70 times are embarrassing for the Z06, the TT walks on it.
Hello,
I don't want to add any comment about TT vs Z06 discussion but just add one precision about what you wrote :
30-50 mph and 50-70 mph top-gear acceleration is not
a fair test for Z06 : just read the spec datasheet.
Final gear in z06 is rated at 44.9 pmh for 1000 rpm !
this is the famous "gas guzzler" gear...
in the TT it is 28 mph at 1000rpm in 6th gear.
So we have :
30-50 mph
Z06 comes from 668 rpm (!!) to 1100 rpm
TT comes from 1070 rpm to 2200 rpm
50-70 mph
Z06 comes from 1100 rpm up to 1560 rpm
TT comes from 2200 rpm up to 3070 rpm (right in TT best torque zone).
This explains the massive time difference between two cars.
Same test in 2nd or 3rd gear would have been much more interesting. So please be fair in you comments.
Regards.
Yeah that's the dumbest test of a cars performance and if someone quotes that for their argument they don't know much about cars. I mean who cruises at 30 in 6th gear. Who came up with that test and what the heck is it trying to simulate? And when any car that's an automatic is tested they all look faster than the 5 speeds. Your average minivan with an auto will go faster 30-50 that a TT because it downshifts.
Once again you missed my point. I know alot about cars but this is the test I am most interested in(0-100). You may concern your self with the B.S. "Ring"(A place where you will never race or anyone else on this forum for that matter). I am concerned with the 0-100 and this is my post if you "gauge" cars differently then start your own post. But again the TT wins this category.
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PbPedis said:Quote:
twinturbo001 said:Quote:
355Spider said:Quote:
Teva said:Quote:
twinturbo001 said:
Looks like the new TT Smokes the Z06(Car and Driver) from 0-100 which is the only test I am concerned with. Its a half a second faster 0-100. In the quarter there even at 11.7, but the Z06 needs to reach 120 MPH to catch up. The TT is also faster 0-60. Anything over 120 isn't realistic and doesn't meant [censored] to me. So I am very pleased with the Numbers and we finally see real #'s. and the 30-50 and 50-70 times are embarrassing for the Z06, the TT walks on it.
Hello,
I don't want to add any comment about TT vs Z06 discussion but just add one precision about what you wrote :
30-50 mph and 50-70 mph top-gear acceleration is not
a fair test for Z06 : just read the spec datasheet.
Final gear in z06 is rated at 44.9 pmh for 1000 rpm !
this is the famous "gas guzzler" gear...
in the TT it is 28 mph at 1000rpm in 6th gear.
So we have :
30-50 mph
Z06 comes from 668 rpm (!!) to 1100 rpm
TT comes from 1070 rpm to 2200 rpm
50-70 mph
Z06 comes from 1100 rpm up to 1560 rpm
TT comes from 2200 rpm up to 3070 rpm (right in TT best torque zone).
This explains the massive time difference between two cars.
Same test in 2nd or 3rd gear would have been much more interesting. So please be fair in you comments.
Regards.
Yeah that's the dumbest test of a cars performance and if someone quotes that for their argument they don't know much about cars. I mean who cruises at 30 in 6th gear. Who came up with that test and what the heck is it trying to simulate? And when any car that's an automatic is tested they all look faster than the 5 speeds. Your average minivan with an auto will go faster 30-50 that a TT because it downshifts.
Once again you missed my point. I know alot about cars but this is the test I am most interested in(0-100). You may concern your self with the B.S. "Ring"(A place where you will never race or anyone else on this forum for that matter). I am concerned with the 0-100 and this is my post if you "gauge" cars differently then start your own post. But again the TT wins this category.
And according to R&T, the Z06 beats the TT 0-100 by 0.6 seconds. So as I already said, on any given day, either car could come out the victor. If you're going to go around telling everyone you have the faster car based on one car magazine test, then with all due respect, you're a fool.
Jul 23, 2006 7:38:48 PM
Jul 23, 2006 7:58:24 PM
Jul 23, 2006 11:39:35 PM
Jul 24, 2006 12:30:49 AM
Jul 24, 2006 12:35:26 AM
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twinturbo001 said:
How many Z06 owners have run there cars at the the "Ring"? The Z06 guys always bring up the "Ring" yet I have never seen one say they have run there Z06 at the "Ring". I Personally Don't care about the "Ring" and never will. Going in a straight line is what interests me. I unlike so many Forum members here Don't "Whine" about what porsche should have done I am very happy with the new 997 TT and the sooner mine is delivered the better. Sometimes I think half the members on here have never owned a Porsche.
Jul 24, 2006 6:24:39 AM
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X-TURBO said:
I Wow... either some people do not like fast cars or they work as a local car salesman.
My point on the street driving is that if you don't use the Vette on the track then you are going to need to do felony speeds on the streets (in the states) in order to get your money's worth out of the car.
And by the way...
What's wrong with selling cars? Not good enough for you?