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    Re: Wall Street journal liked the 997TT but had the same iss

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    SoCal Alan said:
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    Joost said:
    LOL, it says that it is a negative point that you could mistake the 997 turbo for a standard Carrera... how dumb can one be?
    1: The only ones making that mistake are people with no knowledge whatsoever of supercars... I don't value their opinions
    2: I actually find it a pré that is not so flashy... in the end, YOU as an owner know what you drive and what it is capable off... if you drive a car to impress the neighbors... pitty you, you need counselling.
    -Joost-



    Joost, here in the US it is a valid criticism. Only knowledgeable car people can distinguish between Porsche's. The other day I witnessed a situation where a 997S was parked next to a 987 and the two owners were talking. A person walked up to them and commented about one as a convertible and the other a coupe. He then asked " what model year are they and which one is faster." I don't believe the 997S owner was very happy.

    BTW the 3.5 sec 0-60 for the 430 probably was a time from a Euro model with launch control. I very much doubt the US models would do that well without LC.



    Nick, I wouldn't be surprised if 9 out of 10 people wouldn't be able to tell if the Ferrari passing by them is an F430 or a 360. In my discussion with colleagues, I'm often surprised to find that many of them don't even know what the latest entry model Ferrari is. So who cares whether one can tell the difference between a 997 versus a 996. Do you really care if someone who you don't know can't make that distinction?



    Good points but therein lies the problem. Seeing a Ferrari be it a 348, 335, 360 or 430 is an event. The brand is associated with speed, sexy stying, expensive and exclusive. It speaks a lot about the owner.

    On the other hand, Porsche is associated with invert bathtub styling, an godly number of variations of models, speed, little product differention in styling, varying in price range between cheap and expensive and are massively produced. What does owning a Porsche say about an owner.

    Using the Starbuck analogy, buying a Porsche is like paying for a latte but getting a one dollar cup of coffee.



    Seeing a Ferrari is an event? Not for me. Nick, you must have a very dull life. I'm not surprised.

    David

    P.S. I agree with you on one point: Ferrari speaks a lot about the owner. All NEGATIVE, IMHO. And Nick, you are the perfect example!

    Re: Wall Street journal liked the 997TT but had the same iss

    Beating up on Nick online is kinda like tooling over to Starbucks in your Ferrari for a latte. It makes you feel good, but why? I find Nick's comments interesting, funny at times, and I don't care if he prefers Ferrari over Porsche. I think both companies make some fantastic cars, and I would love to have several of each. I read the boards primarily for car info, but it's nice to see different personalities shine through, too.

    Re: Wall Street journal liked the 997TT but had the same iss

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    KJB said:
    Beating up on Nick online is kinda like tooling over to Starbucks in your Ferrari for a latte. It makes you feel good, but why? I find Nick's comments interesting, funny at times, and I don't care if he prefers Ferrari over Porsche. I think both companies make some fantastic cars, and I would love to have several of each. I read the boards primarily for car info, but it's nice to see different personalities shine through, too.



    I suggest you read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
    to gain some understanding why many (especially Porsche owners) want Nick banned for his boorish behavior. He posts the same dribble over and over again. Nick is unique. Can you name another person like Nick on rennteam.com? Of course not, he's the only troll on this messageboard. He's not unlike those annoying Jehovah's Witnesses, repeating their unwanted message over and over again. They, like Nick, seem to think they have some special insight that noone else can see, that they/Nick think is so important, and most annoyingly, that we need to hear. I say to them and Nick: we don't want to hear your message!

    Yes, Nick, I know I'm repeating myself. Yes, I know you're just the messenger.

    Re: Wall Street journal liked the 997TT but had the same iss

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    nberry said:
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    SoCal Alan said:
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    nberry said:
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    Joost said:
    LOL, it says that it is a negative point that you could mistake the 997 turbo for a standard Carrera... how dumb can one be?
    1: The only ones making that mistake are people with no knowledge whatsoever of supercars... I don't value their opinions
    2: I actually find it a pré that is not so flashy... in the end, YOU as an owner know what you drive and what it is capable off... if you drive a car to impress the neighbors... pitty you, you need counselling.
    -Joost-



    Joost, here in the US it is a valid criticism. Only knowledgeable car people can distinguish between Porsche's. The other day I witnessed a situation where a 997S was parked next to a 987 and the two owners were talking. A person walked up to them and commented about one as a convertible and the other a coupe. He then asked " what model year are they and which one is faster." I don't believe the 997S owner was very happy.

    BTW the 3.5 sec 0-60 for the 430 probably was a time from a Euro model with launch control. I very much doubt the US models would do that well without LC.



    Nick, I wouldn't be surprised if 9 out of 10 people wouldn't be able to tell if the Ferrari passing by them is an F430 or a 360. In my discussion with colleagues, I'm often surprised to find that many of them don't even know what the latest entry model Ferrari is. So who cares whether one can tell the difference between a 997 versus a 996. Do you really care if someone who you don't know can't make that distinction?



    Good points but therein lies the problem. Seeing a Ferrari be it a 348, 335, 360 or 430 is an event. The brand is associated with speed, sexy stying, expensive and exclusive. It speaks a lot about the owner.

    On the other hand, Porsche is associated with invert bathtub styling, an godly number of variations of models, speed, little product differention in styling, varying in price range between cheap and expensive and are massively produced. What does owning a Porsche say about an owner.

    Using the Starbuck analogy, buying a Porsche is like paying for a latte but getting a one dollar cup of coffee.



    Great quote. I wonder if you say that when a GT2 or CGT pulls up next to you. However, I do recognize your desire to just get a rise out of the Porsche gang. Kinda funny if these words are actually your true feelings. Bet you're fun to hang out with.

     
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