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Apr 13, 2017 8:18:53 PM

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 3993, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2003; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

RC:
The GT2 puts some serious torque on the road, so for the occasional track fun in the hands of the average talented amateur driver, the GT3 RS is definetely the better (and cheaper) choice.

You talkin' 'bout me?

Huh?

Well, are ya?

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Apr 15, 2017 1:48:43 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: bluelines

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

bluelines:
Following the same logic, the GT4 is an even better choice

Yes, the R8 GT4. indecision

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Apr 15, 2017 1:52:28 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: W8MM

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

W8MM:
RC:
The GT2 puts some serious torque on the road, so for the occasional track fun in the hands of the average talented amateur driver, the GT3 RS is definetely the better (and cheaper) choice.

You talkin' 'bout me?

Huh?

Well, are ya?

I don't know...are you that average talented amateur driver?

But seriously, I think that a car like the new GT2 RS is a worse track toy than the GT3 RS or the new GT3. Too much torque can ruin the fun but I guess we only know for sure once the GT2 RS is out.

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Apr 15, 2017 5:31:34 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

RC:
W8MM:
RC:
The GT2 puts some serious torque on the road, so for the occasional track fun in the hands of the average talented amateur driver, the GT3 RS is definetely the better (and cheaper) choice.

You talkin' 'bout me?

Huh?

Well, are ya?

I don't know...are you that average talented amateur driver?

But seriously, I think that a car like the new GT2 RS is a worse track toy than the GT3 RS or the new GT3. Too much torque can ruin the fun but I guess we only know for sure once the GT2 RS is out.

I would not be concerned: the old GT2 RS was a treat to drive on the track Smiley

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Apr 15, 2017 6:03:45 PM

spudgun: Veteran; Loc: Belgium , Belgium; Posts: 1212, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 8, 2006; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Sorry, but there is no such thing as too much torque spoiling the fun for a track car....just different driving styles.

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Apr 15, 2017 9:13:16 PM

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 5884, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: spudgun

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Porsche 911 GT2 RS due this year with 700bhp turbo engine...

Link: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/most-extreme-porsche-911-gt2-due-year-700bhp-turbo-engine

Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Apr 15, 2017 10:57:37 PM

Enzo II: Veteran; Loc: Spain , Spain; Posts: 1248, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 1, 2006; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

So they go for 700 at the end?

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Apr 16, 2017 6:20:23 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

MKSGR:
RC:
W8MM:
RC:
The GT2 puts some serious torque on the road, so for the occasional track fun in the hands of the average talented amateur driver, the GT3 RS is definetely the better (and cheaper) choice.

You talkin' 'bout me?

Huh?

Well, are ya?

I don't know...are you that average talented amateur driver?

But seriously, I think that a car like the new GT2 RS is a worse track toy than the GT3 RS or the new GT3. Too much torque can ruin the fun but I guess we only know for sure once the GT2 RS is out.

I would not be concerned: the old GT2 RS was a treat to drive on the track

So why did you sell it? 😉

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Apr 16, 2017 6:21:22 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Enzo II

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Enzo II:
So they go for 700 at the end?

They better do...with the 720S and the 488 Speciale coming...

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Apr 29, 2017 5:47:42 AM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14171, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Could the next GT2 be inspired directly by the back wing of this year's R ? On the spy shots there are similarities .

This car is in the same team as my brother ' s Cup .

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Apr 30, 2017 2:31:51 PM

martini964: Veteran; Loc: Toronto , Canada; Posts: 853, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2014; Reply to: Gnil

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Im more nervous about the combination of setting of wing...lots of holes to remember

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Apr 30, 2017 2:52:11 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14171, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: martini964

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

martini964:
Im more nervous about the combination of setting of wing...lots of holes to remember

I tried to add up, but stoped counting Smiley

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May 13, 2017 12:58:45 AM

kingjr9000: Senior; Loc: In my mind , United States; Posts: 549, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: Gnil

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

This thread has been dead for too long. Someone over here should know something. Time to jumpstart it. Found this on RL:

The GT2 is 2 wheel driven. Is not a hybrid. The intake ducts in the hood is directing air downwards (supposedly something is needing additional cooling). The front is packed with coolers and "something else".

Most importantly is how my source facial expression was when he said "You _will_ be surprised"

"We want to be fastest on the ring".

"We are well aware of what our competitors are doing".

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May 13, 2017 7:33:44 AM

olli: Pilot; Loc: Germany; Posts: 418, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 24, 2006; Reply to: kingjr9000

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Well, this was posted on RL by one of our RT members...much more active thread over there.

Anyway, the speculation culminated in the scenario that the engine will be a tri-turbo, including an electric turbo which in turn is powered by supercapacitors lodged in the front requiring additional cooling, hence the air ducts in the front hood.

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May 13, 2017 8:09:21 AM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: olli

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

olli:
Well, this was posted on RL by one of our RT members...much more active thread over there.

Anyway, the speculation culminated in the scenario that the engine will be a tri-turbo, including an electric turbo which in turn is powered by supercapacitors lodged in the front requiring additional cooling, hence the air ducts in the front hood.

Maybe this is another proof for: less speculation is better than more... How likely is it they will develop a tri-turbo for the RS Smiley People are out of their minds Smiley

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May 13, 2017 9:44:53 AM

olli: Pilot; Loc: Germany; Posts: 418, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 24, 2006; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

...very true, but some folks speculated that this could be a partial precurser of 992 turbo tech show-cased in the 2RS.

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May 13, 2017 10:19:14 AM

Kobalt: Expert; Loc: Europe , Sweden; Posts: 1819, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 18, 2015; Reply to: kingjr9000

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

kingjr9000:
This thread has been dead for too long. Someone over here should know something. Time to jumpstart it. Found this on RL:

The GT2 is 2 wheel driven. Is not a hybrid. The intake ducts in the hood is directing air downwards (supposedly something is needing additional cooling). The front is packed with coolers and "something else".

Most importantly is how my source facial expression was when he said "You _will_ be surprised"

"We want to be fastest on the ring".

"We are well aware of what our competitors are doing"

Since I wrote the above I can add that this is not rumors or speculations, I just reported back what was said to me.

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May 13, 2017 12:09:51 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: Kobalt

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Kobalt:
kingjr9000:
This thread has been dead for too long. Someone over here should know something. Time to jumpstart it. Found this on RL:

The GT2 is 2 wheel driven. Is not a hybrid. The intake ducts in the hood is directing air downwards (supposedly something is needing additional cooling). The front is packed with coolers and "something else".

Most importantly is how my source facial expression was when he said "You _will_ be surprised"

"We want to be fastest on the ring".

"We are well aware of what our competitors are doing"

Since I wrote the above I can add that this is not rumors or speculations, I just reported back what was said to me.

Very mysterious & interesting at the same time Smiley

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May 13, 2017 12:27:11 PM

Kobalt: Expert; Loc: Europe , Sweden; Posts: 1819, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 18, 2015; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

MKSGR:
Very mysterious & interesting at the same time

Agree : )

I mentioned a couple of more things at Rennlist:

It is a "Widowmaker" - as in "Fun and challenging"

It is 2wd: "Plenty of grip"

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May 13, 2017 1:56:34 PM

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 5884, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: Kobalt

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

2018 Porsche 991 GT2 RS testing at the Nurburgring...

...watch video below from 7:15 to 7:45... (turn up the volume)

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z0ZWD4DpJ4

...front vents look similar to the GT3 R Hybrid...

...just wait for that flywheel BOOST! Smiley

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTzYooSTRek

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May 13, 2017 2:06:55 PM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

That one big front lip!

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May 13, 2017 2:30:15 PM

Kobalt: Expert; Loc: Europe , Sweden; Posts: 1819, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 18, 2015; Reply to: EnglishManInNY

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

I was told they've testing various front lips/splitters. Which makes sense: Testing is what they do on NS.

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Jun 2, 2017 8:39:52 AM

olli: Pilot; Loc: Germany; Posts: 418, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 24, 2006; Reply to: Kobalt

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Rumour has it that the price tag, at least in Germany, could be as high as €280k for the base version and €320k including the Weissach pack...ouch!

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Jun 2, 2017 8:42:40 AM

pmarkow: Rennteam Pro; Loc: cambridge , United Kingdom; Posts: 2277, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 28, 2014; Reply to: olli

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

olli:
Rumour has it that the price tag, at least in Germany, could be as high as €280k for the base version and €320k including the Weissach pack...ouch!

VAT included?

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Jun 2, 2017 8:48:31 AM

Kobalt: Expert; Loc: Europe , Sweden; Posts: 1819, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 18, 2015; Reply to: pmarkow

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

It will be shown at Goodwood Festival of Speed in the end of June - This is verified.

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Jun 2, 2017 9:22:15 AM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21148, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: olli

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

olli:
Rumour has it that the price tag, at least in Germany, could be as high as €280k for the base version and €320k including the Weissach pack...ouch!

320k?? ... it better have something special...

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Jun 2, 2017 10:41:58 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: olli

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

olli:
Rumour has it that the price tag, at least in Germany, could be as high as €280k for the base version and €320k including the Weissach pack...ouch!

Heard similar numbers recently but after they decided to improve performance and specs. Smiley

Taking the Huracan Performante and especially the new 720S into consideration, I think that Porsche knows whats at stake here...

Still not interested in this car, even if it will be the fastest 911 street car Porsche ever built... Smiley

A "960" would be more interesting from my perspective...and this one cannot cost over 300k.

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Jun 2, 2017 12:03:20 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: olli

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

olli:
Rumour has it that the price tag, at least in Germany, could be as high as €280k for the base version and €320k including the Weissach pack...ouch!

I wonder what is included in the Weissach pack (aside from the 918 Magnesium wheels)?

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Jun 2, 2017 1:14:14 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21148, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: Grant

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Grant:
olli:
Rumour has it that the price tag, at least in Germany, could be as high as €280k for the base version and €320k including the Weissach pack...ouch!

I wonder what is included in the Weissach pack (aside from the 918 Magnesium wheels)?

An extensive weight saving treatment......... for your wallet indecision

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Jun 2, 2017 1:17:50 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Porsche is learning... CGT was $440k, 918 $680k to $900k and they sold all of them plus they now all trade higher. They will keep jacking prices up on halo models which will pull all prices up in time even for the still "good value" GT models.

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