End of Bangle at BMW?
It's said that Bangle has lost the backing of the BMW management, after his controversial design was criticized so much by press and customers.
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There are rumours coming from inside BMW that say, that Chris Bangle will leave the company in the end of this year, after the Bangle-designed 1-series will have made its debut.
It's said that Bangle has lost the backing of the BMW management, after his controversial design was criticized so much by press and customers.
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what i never liked about the new BM cars: they look american. e.g. the 645Ci cabrio -- it's not an european GT, it's an american GT. don't get me wrong, i have nothing against US design -- but not for a car company with strong european roots and successful because of building sleak, sporty cars in the past. IMO lexus does it better.
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WF said:
This is exactly what the whole bmw design problem is about: It looks too american. Think about the late 80's with the gorgeous Z1 7series (e32) etc. they all had this italian flair combined with german solidness in their progressive design.
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That's right. It seems as if BMW had only the US market in mind in the last couple of years. If they should change that now, perhaps they recognized that they did something wrong and concentrated too much on the US.
The "old" BMW design was so great, sleek and elegant, something that only Italian or perhaps Brititsh design could achieve.
Unfortunately that's all gone now, nothing is left and that's a shame.
Jan 30, 2004 3:57:57 AM
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Fanch said:
From what I've seen in Houston, it's mostly long straight wide roads and strict laws.
I think what Zzoba means when he says that the 6 is more US market orientated, is they have prioritise on the more powerful comfy GT side than the nimble sports car. At least that's what I think.
From my own experience, track aside, it's easier to enjoy a sports car in the old continent than Texas. I said Texas not the US, you've noticed bc my american driving experience only limits itself to Texas.
Jan 30, 2004 7:05:35 AM
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kfractal said:
What exactly would you suggest are the hallmarks of "American" design? NOT trying to start a flamewar just genuinely interested in hearing a European answer to that question. I have some ideas of my own I'll hold onto until hearing others respond
Jan 30, 2004 12:18:49 PM
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Fanch said:
From what I've seen in Houston, it's mostly long straight wide roads and strict laws. From my own experience, track aside, it's easier to enjoy a sports car in the old continent than Texas. I said Texas not the US, you've noticed bc my american driving experience only limits itself to Texas.
Jan 30, 2004 12:24:27 PM
Jan 30, 2004 12:32:09 PM
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What exactly would you suggest are the hallmarks of "American" design? NOT trying to start a flamewar just genuinely interested in hearing a European answer to that question. I have some ideas of my own I'll hold onto until hearing others respond
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WF said:
It's not about what characterises "American design" it's more about focussing on american taste/ market by BMW. Their cars got too bulbous and fat on the outside with cheap plastics and way too many gadgets inside. I cannot really describe it but look at Maserati and their new Quattroporte( Audi as well) that's what I call an ellegant design. Don't get me wrong I like the US and it's people.
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WF said:Quote:
What exactly would you suggest are the hallmarks of "American" design? NOT trying to start a flamewar just genuinely interested in hearing a European answer to that question. I have some ideas of my own I'll hold onto until hearing others respond
It's not about what characterises "American design" it's more about focussing on american taste/ market by BMW. Their cars got too bulbous and fat on the outside with cheap plastics and way too many gadgets inside. I cannot really describe it but look at Maserati and their new Quattroporte( Audi as well) that's what I call an ellegant design. Don't get me wrong I like the US and it's people.